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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

we sent it with a note saying 'do NOT bomb'!

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Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

wow. the idf is using a jewish-owned business for military purposes, with bostonian civilians as human shields. disgusting and antisemitic

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011


No no no not that much attention!!!

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

oh ok so we're going to just single out the jewish bomb makers?

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
https://twitter.com/BTnewsroom/status/1727070175726575738?t=22aat2M6qP74-9dhLKq2_A&s=19

https://twitter.com/EmpireFiles/status/1727223446139232335?t=AHiwXh90zLHkgs2akAw96g&s=19

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


https://twitter.com/MouinRabbani/status/1727165339878998032

quote:

In an interview last week I speculated that there may have been an informal US-Israeli agreement: the Biden administration would support Israel’s invasion of Al-Shifa Hospital, and would cover for this war crime with lies of its own about the existence of a Palestinian Pentagon beneath it. But once it became clear that the only facility on the premises was a hospital and Israel completed its destruction, the US would finalise a deal with Hamas and Israel would agree to its terms. This is what now appears to have happened: in exchange for US support for Israel’s systematic destruction of the health sector in the Gaza Strip, a US-Israeli deal with Hamas has been reached.

Some observations on this agreement:

The US and Israel, which vowed to eradicate Hamas, are negotiating with the Palestinian movement and reaching agreements with it. Qatari-Egyptian mediation is a formality. Biden and Netanyahu are not negotiating with Cairo and Doha.

Judging by Israeli press reports Hamas was desperate for any respite, however brief, from the Israeli onslaught for almost any price. Yet the deal includes: the release of 3x the number of Palestinian women and children by Israel; no Israeli soldiers included in the exchange; humanitarian supplies to the entire Gaza Strip; a continuous 4-day ceasefire rather than for only several hours a day; and specified periods during which Israeli jets and drones are prohibited from using the airspace over the Gaza Strip.

This is quite close to the deal initially offered by Hamas some time ago, and it seems all of its key conditions have been accepted by Israel and the US. Desperate, you say? If the adage that negotiations reflect reality on the ground rather than overturning it applies, Hamas – in contrast to the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip that has been Israel’s main target – seems to remain rather intact.

Hamas has forced the US and Israel to consent to the supply of essential humanitarian supplies throughout the entirety of the Gaza Strip. In other words, Hamas has in one fell swoop achieved exponentially more on the humanitarian front than the much-vaunted US “negotiations” about humanitarian relief during the past month. This confirms that the entire US effort was nothing but a circus and diversionary charade to enable Israel to continue with its mass killings and transform the Gaza Strip into a wasteland and killing field.

It bears repeating: Hamas forced the US and Israel to allow food, water, medicine, and fuel to reach the entire civilian population of the Gaza Strip. But of course Hamas are Nazi-ISIS terrorists, Israel a light unto the nations with the world’s most moral army, and the US the world’s greatest democracy whose sole mission is to spread the gospel of human rights to the rest of the planet.

What happens next is difficult to assess. According to reports only Israeli and dual nationals are being released, presumably to help the Israeli leadership swallow this very bitter pill. This also means that further negotiations to release foreign citizens are ongoing, potentially leading to an extension of the ceasefire. I find it difficult to believe that the Israeli leadership – not just Netanyahu – can accept this.

Although the Gaza Strip has been substantially destroyed, Hamas hasn’t, and none of its key leaders have been located. If Israel is confident it can flout US policy and once again incur no consequences for doing so, it will. The Israeli-Lebanese front also seems to be rapidly escalating.

While it is true that it is in Netanyahu’s personal and political interest to keep this conflict going, I don’t believe he can do so against the will of the Israeli leadership. The security establishment is desperate to wipe the stain of 7 October but has yet to kill more Hamas commanders than UN staff.

Other coalition partners see the crisis as a golden opportunity to unleash the apocalypse and therefore voted against this deal. So further escalation is likely. But it is also possible implementation of this deal could cause the government to collapse under a combination of internal contradictions and public pressure. The US leadership is also a question mark. With respect to the impact of this crisis on US interests in the region and beyond, and particularly the question of regional escalation: Biden doesn’t care, Blinken doesn’t know, and Burns and Austin are making GBS threads bricks.

Perhaps the one conclusion that can already be drawn: the various “day after” scenarios emanating from the Washington echo chamber can be safely filed away. They require the eradication of Hamas, not negotiated agreements with it.

Mouin Rabbani is a Dutch-Palestinian Middle East analyst specializing in the Arab-Israeli conflict and Palestinian affairs.

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007
How can anyone be for peace? Disgusting

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

RadiRoot posted:

How can anyone be for peace? Disgusting

they are peaces of poo poo. i pea on them

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Chillgamesh posted:

However, Israel will still be bombing northern Gaza for most of the ceasefire (they only agreed to a window from 10:00 - 16:00 where they'll stop bombings in the north), and most of the housing and infrastructure there has already been destroyed, so I don't know how many people will return.
Good news, you are mistaken! There should be no bombing in north or south. The "window" is for IDF overflights of any kind, but I don't know if Israel has actually agreed to that

Reuters posted:

Hamas said Israel had agreed to halt air traffic over the north of Gaza from 10 a.m. (0800 GMT) until 4 p.m. (1400 GMT) each day of the truce and to halt all air traffic over the south for the entire period. The group said Israel agreed not to attack or arrest anyone in Gaza, and people can move freely along Salah al-Din Street, the main road along which many Palestinians have fled northern Gaza where Israel launched its ground invasion.
but

AP posted:

Hamas said Israel’s warplanes would stop flying over southern Gaza during the four-day truce and for six hours daily over the north. Israel made no mention of halting flights, and it wasn’t clear if this would include its sophisticated intelligence drones, which have been a constant presence over Gaza.

platzapS has issued a correction as of 20:13 on Nov 22, 2023

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
looks like turkey is trying to do the simpsons Leonard Nimoy "looks like my job here is done" bit.

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Turkish media reveals the role of ⁧‫#تركيا‬⁩ intelligence in thwarting a plan by the Israeli Mossad that aimed to kidnap a Palestinian software engineer who “succeeded in penetrating Iron Dome.”

https://x.com/ajarabic/status/1727357520442790178?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Raccooon posted:

Has any American ever been charged by the ICC for anything?

Contrary to what some RUBES have claimed, the ICC has charged 4 white people. Mikhail Mindzaev & David Sanakoev in mid 2022 in connection with Russia's defense of South Ossetia in 2008. And Maria Lvova-Belova &
Vladimir Putin in 2023 in connection with the current Ukraine war.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

Weka posted:

Contrary to what some RUBES have claimed, the ICC has charged 4 white people. Mikhail Mindzaev & David Sanakoev in mid 2022 in connection with Russia's defense of South Ossetia in 2008. And Maria Lvova-Belova &
Vladimir Putin in 2023 in connection with the current Ukraine war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28ggYBRnJiM

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
just imagine the size of putins smile when america just undermined every single propaganda angle they had against him with this massacre, the complete and utter destruction of the fake "moral high ground" the west pretended to have, and the best part? they loving lost. america became the overt sponsor of the modern day nazi germany for no real gain.

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

Cuttlefush posted:

quite easy. done this in many games

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
if this is real, then Hamas may have used israels penchant for killing and arresting children against them, ill try to find the article of this to see of its real:-

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Yedioth Ahronoth:

‎The resistance fighters in Gaza set up megaphones from which sounds of children and boys’ conversations came out. To bring the occupation soldiers into the ambushes they had prepared for them.

https://x.com/turkishalhoub/status/1727391494317965641?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

Al-Saqr posted:

just imagine the size of putins smile when america just undermined every single propaganda angle they had against him with this massacre, the complete and utter destruction of the fake "moral high ground" the west pretended to have, and the best part? they loving lost. america became the overt sponsor of the modern day nazi germany for no real gain.

We really did sacrifice the whole moral & ideological pitch of the global liberal order for nothing. Israel couldn't even defeat Hamas and now the stenographers are left with the task of revising reality while the truce holds.

https://twitter.com/comrade_sweezy/status/1727392992519209294?s=20

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
https://twitter.com/EugenePuryear/status/1727334215925297655

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


Al-Saqr posted:

if this is real, then Hamas may have used israels penchant for killing and arresting children against them, ill try to find the article of this to see of its real:-

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Yedioth Ahronoth:

‎The resistance fighters in Gaza set up megaphones from which sounds of children and boys’ conversations came out. To bring the occupation soldiers into the ambushes they had prepared for them.

https://x.com/turkishalhoub/status/1727391494317965641?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

lol

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



time for Spain to take back Gibraltar and initiate comedy on multiple levels

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

its time for hezbollah to harden their missiles

Adenoid Dan
Mar 8, 2012

The Hobo Serenader
Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

We really did sacrifice the whole moral & ideological pitch of the global liberal order for nothing. Israel couldn't even defeat Hamas and now the stenographers are left with the task of revising reality while the truce holds.

https://twitter.com/comrade_sweezy/status/1727392992519209294?s=20

Giora Eiland was the general who said starvation and disease should be embraced because it will speed victory. So that's whose word they're taking that there was no nefarious purpose to targeting the hospital.

loving monsters.

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

Al-Saqr posted:

if this is real, then Hamas may have used israels penchant for killing and arresting children against them, ill try to find the article of this to see of its real:-

===========

Yedioth Ahronoth:

‎The resistance fighters in Gaza set up megaphones from which sounds of children and boys’ conversations came out. To bring the occupation soldiers into the ambushes they had prepared for them.

https://x.com/turkishalhoub/status/1727391494317965641?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Here's the article -
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hk99jusva

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Weka posted:

Contrary to what some RUBES have claimed, the ICC has charged 4 white people. Mikhail Mindzaev & David Sanakoev in mid 2022 in connection with Russia's defense of South Ossetia in 2008. And Maria Lvova-Belova &
Vladimir Putin in 2023 in connection with the current Ukraine war.

Its how you know the whitness has been revoked from Russians

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Al-Saqr posted:

if this is real, then Hamas may have used israels penchant for killing and arresting children against them, ill try to find the article of this to see of its real:-

===========

Yedioth Ahronoth:

‎The resistance fighters in Gaza set up megaphones from which sounds of children and boys’ conversations came out. To bring the occupation soldiers into the ambushes they had prepared for them.

https://x.com/turkishalhoub/status/1727391494317965641?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

they got Chris Hansen’d, nice.

“have a seat”

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

lol holy poo poo the IDF is literally getting the 'to catch a predator' treatment

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.
It says that they used recording of Arabic conversations between kids/teenagers to "confuse" IDF soldiers and lure them in.

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

lmfao

just a small jewish mom and pop arms manufacturer

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Sancho Banana posted:

It says that they used recording of Arabic conversations between kids/teenagers to "confuse" IDF soldiers and lure them in.


someone bring the map with the thousands of red dots showing the number of convicted american sexual predators living in israel to escape jail time

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

So cynical and depraved lol.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

Al-Saqr posted:

if this is real, then Hamas may have used israels penchant for killing and arresting children against them, ill try to find the article of this to see of its real:-

===========

Yedioth Ahronoth:

‎The resistance fighters in Gaza set up megaphones from which sounds of children and boys’ conversations came out. To bring the occupation soldiers into the ambushes they had prepared for them.

https://x.com/turkishalhoub/status/1727391494317965641?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

the Looney Tunes nature of the resistamce tactics never gets old. IDF goons start harassing a mannequin dressed like a hypebeast and out falls a stick of lit dynamite.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
Yugoslav Partizans would use abandoned hospitals/infirmaries to ambush the the Ustaše, who would abandon all military sense for a chance to get their hands on some wounded they could torture. (my family's old house was used as an infirmary, and got torched for it in WW2 - not that the fascists who did it got to gloat for long). It's... it's genuinely shocking that an actual military went a step beyond beelining hospitals (already horrific enough as is, as we got to watch IDF do in Gaza) and straight into "beelines towards the sounds of children" to such an exploitable degree.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001




of course she works in the "House of Israel" medical centre

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Amazing

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

https://twitter.com/nationaljuche/status/1726290323071279120?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA

:3

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

This is this summer's (southern hemisphere) anthem. Abu Ali ftw?!

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Grem posted:

Didn't they get a guy from Bosnia or something?

E: nm you are right. They did indict Putin though!

They had a separate International tribune for the Serbian war, icty.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Al-Saqr posted:

if this is real, then Hamas may have used israels penchant for killing and arresting children against them, ill try to find the article of this to see of its real:-

===========

Yedioth Ahronoth:

‎The resistance fighters in Gaza set up megaphones from which sounds of children and boys’ conversations came out. To bring the occupation soldiers into the ambushes they had prepared for them.

https://x.com/turkishalhoub/status/1727391494317965641?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

:wow:

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

Fellatio del Toro posted:

wow. the idf is using a jewish-owned business for military purposes, with bostonian civilians as human shields. disgusting and antisemitic

Syenite
Jun 21, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Hamas painting a fake tunnel on the side of a mountain with some drawings of brown children and IDF soldiers fighting over who gets to run comically into it.

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Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

IOF soldiers looking for a morale boost and easy win against unarmed children. Instead they end up a video with red triangles above their heads.

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