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Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

This is only tangentially related to I/P but on the subject of apartheid governments, how come it seems like western Nazis only ever jack themselves off over Rhodesia and not South Africa? Is it because Rhodesia is less historically relevant and therefore easier to fly under the radar about?

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Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.

Chillgamesh posted:

This is only tangentially related to I/P but on the subject of apartheid governments, how come it seems like western Nazis only ever jack themselves off over Rhodesia and not South Africa? Is it because Rhodesia is less historically relevant and therefore easier to fly under the radar about?

Rhodesia put ads in the back of soldier of fortune magazine

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Chillgamesh posted:

This is only tangentially related to I/P but on the subject of apartheid governments, how come it seems like western Nazis only ever jack themselves off over Rhodesia and not South Africa? Is it because Rhodesia is less historically relevant and therefore easier to fly under the radar about?

Rhodesia put out a lot of propaganda about how badass they are and about how great a time you'd have as a badass white soldier, South Africa's propaganda was more along the lines of "please stop bullying us, we're actually a very pleasant racial society its just that there's black hoodlums causing mischief"



Shouldn't be too hard to guess which one is more appealing to the modern couch fascist.

Also, it helps that South Africa is still around, and modern White South Africans are generally ambivalent or supportive of the end of Apartheid.

Neurolimal has issued a correction as of 20:13 on Nov 23, 2023

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Chillgamesh posted:

This is only tangentially related to I/P but on the subject of apartheid governments, how come it seems like western Nazis only ever jack themselves off over Rhodesia and not South Africa? Is it because Rhodesia is less historically relevant and therefore easier to fly under the radar about?


Speleothing posted:

Rhodesia put ads in the back of soldier of fortune magazine

It's that and the fact that Zimbabwe has, for a number reasons, had a tougher time of things than South Africa since the end of apartheid.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


lol

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

tony blair keeps threatening to invade Zimbabwe so there’s a secret hope that rhodesia might come back

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Jel Shaker posted:

tony blair keeps threatening to invade Zimbabwe so there’s a secret hope that rhodesia might come back

You just know he'd take being called "Cecil Rhodes 2" as a huge compliment.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002



https://x.com/olaasm/status/1727744024952393946?s=46&t=I-gsjpvNkUNcOBofs8OOkQ

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
i remember a lot of really racist zimbabwe newspaper articles from the early 00's about how mugabe giving farms back to indigenous people was ruining the country

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
Politico reports that there was 'some concern' inside the Biden Administration that an 'unintended consequence' of the humanitarian pause is that it would 'allow journalists broader access to Gaza' which could 'further illuminate the devastation there and turn public opinion on Israel'

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

FlapYoJacks posted:

If any of you have an explanation for why Hamas would go to great lengths to build secret living quarters under a hospital that does not involve quartering troops and/or holding hostages then I would be interested to hear it.

to store their mutant drain crabs, what the gently caress, duh

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

Ingenious! What will those dastardly Hamas think of next!?

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

sullat posted:

Canonically? They were locked in an ice cave from 1813 to 1955 and got so sick from missing out on the fun that they very nearly died.

lol if this is true, brilliant move on the part of the writers in anticipating the Internet's reaction to their movie.

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012

smoobles posted:

lol if this is true, brilliant move on the part of the writers in anticipating the Internet's reaction to their movie.

That comes from the fourth movie, so not so much anticipating.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
so everyone agrees they would have helped hitler commit the holocaust, but they didn't get the opportunity

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Despicable Me posting is Burgerposting with some layers of abstraction

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Manifesting some cans of pumpkin pie mix for Gaza. Hang in there!!!

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Despicable Me posting is Burgerposting with some layers of abstraction

Bananaposting

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science

Al! posted:

so everyone agrees they would have helped hitler commit the holocaust, but they didn't get the opportunity

so like most right wing podcast hosts

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Gru would not have helped Hitler

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

hubris.height posted:

burger poo poo and i'll eat my sixer for it but

frankly poo poo keeps happening that will make it impossible to complete the heel turn, its not like wealth is accumulating on millenials in a way that will entice them to join the rank and file facsists because everything is just so nice. capital has frozen wages for most of that decade, so i don't think its likely to happen.

at least i hope not, in my experience approaching middle age just meant getting more radicalized by world events

Covid and Ukraine-Russia basically revealed that the material base of the Anglo empire is broken. It's not a coincidence that it was Israel's war that elicited a rejection of the narrative. The empire is simultaneously demanding material sacrifice and offering nothing in return.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

going to start probing people who preface their posts with "this may be burger posting, but" and people who post about things being burger posting, because they annoy me.

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.
New details regarding the hostages -

https://mobile.mako.co.il/news-mili...&main_article=3

"Israel is preparing to receive the first 13 hostages that'll be released tomorrow at 16:00 from captivity by Hamas. They'll be passed on to The Red Cross and from there into Israeli hands in the Rafah Crossing. Later on, they will be flown to the base 'Hatzerim' and from there get scattered between five different medical centers across the country. In the security system, it's been decided: initially, only the adults will be questioned as to not unload an additional mental burden on the kids.
[...]
Only in later stages, in accordance with the families, they [the kids] will be interrogated by child interrogators that will act together with and according to The Shin Bet's instructions. [They really do use the word "questioned" for the adults and "interrogated" for the kids, it's weird]

Those released will be encouraged to not get interviewed - but they won't be forbidden to do so. The released hostages will recieve a briefing beforehand and the hospital spokespersons will not be able to act independently, but in accordance with The Ministry of Health and IDF spokesperson. This, so that the state can control what is spoken as much as possible.

The final release agreement was managed under the leadership of the head of the Mossad David Barnea and the head of general staff's unit for the military-intelligence effort for the release of the hostages, reserve Major General Nitzan Alon. The two reported from Qatar that there might be a delay of up to 48 hours and that it is necessary to 'iron out the remaining details.' The discussion continued during the night and until the Qatari press conference."

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

sullat posted:

Canonically? They were locked in an ice cave from 1813 to 1955 and got so sick from missing out on the fun that they very nearly died.

so they were discovered and thawed out by the Neuschwabenland nazis in hiding after the war, got it

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

smoobles posted:

Gru would not have helped Hitler

Of course not, GRU was Soviet.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

such a snivelling, subhuman scum

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

rip those hostages

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Giving many thanks to Turkee (not sure if spelling right) for negotiating this peacefire

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

RadiRoot posted:

im sorry for being part dutch.

mods do your job

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Jel Shaker posted:

rip those hostages

It's crazy how when describing the exchange the media calls them "Israeli hostages" and "Palestinian prisoners" when the Palestinian prisoners include literal children

makes you think

LIterallyABikeshop
Nov 13, 2023

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Sancho Banana posted:

Those released will be encouraged to not get interviewed - but they won't be forbidden to do so. The released hostages will recieve a briefing beforehand and the hospital spokespersons will not be able to act independently, but in accordance with The Ministry of Health and IDF spokesperson. This, so that the state can control what is spoken as much as possible.

Love the implicit admission that it would be bad for the war effort if they talk honestly about what it was like.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



smoobles posted:

It's crazy how when describing the exchange the media calls them "Israeli hostages" and "Palestinian prisoners" when the Palestinian prisoners include literal children

makes you think

It's thought-terminating cliches meant to be taken as axioms without question all the way down.

They demand we call Hamas fighters "terrorists" yet nearly any criteria they'd claim backs up the designation (taking hostages, targeting civillians, comingling civillian and military targets, etc, etc.) would apply at least as much to Israeli uniformed forces.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

RealityWarCriminal posted:

i remember a lot of really racist zimbabwe newspaper articles from the early 00's about how mugabe giving farms back to indigenous people was ruining the country

it's a commonly held belief among racists that the black people were unable to farm productively because of their lower intelligence, to explain the production collapse following land distribution. When afaik it was caused by the banks refusing to lend due to them interfering with the sanctity of private property. Which meant they lacked the money to buy the inputs and rent machinery needed to farm.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

marx's biggest critique of the paris commune is that they didn't take the bank. iran and korea did take the bank and got punished for it. really you are damned if you do and damned if you don't

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

The Voice of Labor posted:

marx's biggest critique of the paris commune is that they didn't take the bank. iran and korea did take the bank and got punished for it. really you are damned if you do and damned if you don't

you're missing the point, armies came after the people that took the bank and the people who don't. the point is who is in a better position with what happens next

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Bronze Fonz posted:

Because any war thread in GBS gets accused of being filled with war porn and snuff films by people who never read said threads. Also the admins are loving retards.

not contesting the admins but GBS war threads are loving awful and the shortlived one about Israel/Palestine that was started on October 7th was extremely racist and it's good that it got closed

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The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Brain Candy posted:

you're missing the point, armies came after the people that took the bank and the people who don't. the point is who is in a better position with what happens next

:thejoke:

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