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KazigluBey posted:I literally cannot do this. I have a full team of Level 40s, most uptie 4 and I cannot for the life of me beat this stupid encounter after like a half dozen tries. Like, yeah, read the skills and enemy's stuff and don't completely ignore the meta, but probably also don't get too caught up in what the Most Ideal Team Is out of IDs that you have for this one fight, because if you're trying to use IDs you're not used to or don't have a feel for it's going to grind a lot more. Good luck!
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KazigluBey posted:I literally cannot do this. I have a full team of Level 40s, most uptie 4 and I cannot for the life of me beat this stupid encounter after like a half dozen tries. Also bring Nclair and don't bring Rheath. Spend the first few waves building EGO resources. Do not clash with him, trade blows instead. I also had a lot of success with R Ish, W Don and W Ryoshu, since they could unload their big skills on him all at once during his stagger window.
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PetraCore posted:Okay, I consider myself like maybe a solidly good player and not great, but I think the thing that's tripping you up partially here is getting too caught up in what 'should' be good or bad in general and shooting right to uptie 4. N Faust is pretty good in some teams and in some circumstances, iirc, and not all IDs need to get to uptie 4 to be effective so for a fight you're struggling with I'd suggest just going to Uptie 3 when you're trying to build a team initially and then look in more detail to figure out who's going to need UT4 to shine. I can't give advice on this specific fight since I haven't hit it yet, I just don't want you to get too discouraged. Thank you, cleared it right after my whinepost with literally the same setup that had failed a few times before. I have no idea about how anything in this game works and why I succeed or fail like 80% of the time, lol, I wasn't joking when I said I was a shitter. GilliamYaeger posted:Do not clash with him, trade blows instead. This is what did it for me, saw a Steam forums thread 7 pages long with people complaining about the fight and someone had said to ignore the two flunkies in wave 3 and just go for damage, which I think tipped it for me. I just don't find it very natural for a game that screams at you that Clashing Good to have an asterisk after that statement the size of a moon. But again, my judgements come from being bad at the game so what do I know... KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Nov 23, 2023 |
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Nov 23, 2023 22:43
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Marluxia posted:Maybe I'm wrong, but Young-Ji didn't seem to have a significant role in Yi Sang's life, beyond being part of the same group.
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KazigluBey posted:Thank you, cleared it right after my whinepost with literally the same setup that had failed a few times before. I have no idea about how anything in this game works and why I succeed or fail like 80% of the time, lol, I wasn't joking when I said I was a shitter.
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KazigluBey posted:I literally cannot do this. I have a full team of Level 40s, most uptie 4 and I cannot for the life of me beat this stupid encounter after like a half dozen tries. Take your time during the first two waves to build resources, then use EGO to break his dodge and beat the poo poo out of him. Also killing his dudes makes him go full murder to try to hold off on that for a couple turns. Typically the top-tier super meta 0 turn clears revolve around a very specific sequence of events, you'll have way more success looking at the enemy weaknesses/what they do and making a team based on that. anyway my group  haha i didn't realize outis was 35 until i took this screenshot, what an id e: oops guess i'm late e2: also i pay like 0 attention to support abilities in case that wasn't obvious. i just saw blunt weakness + offense needed and smashed my head on the mouse like a caveman(while taking the thread's suggestions for meur and liu ish) Yinlock fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Nov 23, 2023 |
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Nov 23, 2023 22:54
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PetraCore posted:All the rules of the game comes with asterisks because some fights have gimmicks. I feel like a big part of the Limbus Company experience for a lot of people is going from 'I don't know what I'm doing -deep despair-' to 'I don't know what I'm doing! -thumbs up-' as you get a more intuitive grasp of the actually really complicated battle system and how many different factors go into it. Plus, like, with Project Moon in general, it feels like every 'rule' of how to do things ends up having fights or abnormalities that take advantage of your expectations to suplex you into the ground. I'm certain I'd run into the exact same problem with that fight if I hadn't happened to check this thread before I got there. I don't disagree, but I feel that for every clearly telegraphed gimmick fight like My Form Empties or Rose Sign there's another gimmick fight where half the gimmick is realizing it's a gimmick in the first place. BB feels like the latter - am I losing clashes because I shouldn't be clashing, am I losing clashes because of RNG, am I losing clashes because I brought the wrong set up or didn't set up the clashes correctly? I dunno, better look it up and see what the consensus is. :/
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KazigluBey posted:I don't disagree, but I feel that for every clearly telegraphed gimmick fight like My Form Empties or Rose Sign there's another gimmick fight where half the gimmick is realizing it's a gimmick in the first place. BB feels like the latter - am I losing clashes because I shouldn't be clashing, am I losing clashes because of RNG, am I losing clashes because I brought the wrong set up or didn't set up the clashes correctly? I dunno, better look it up and see what the consensus is. :/ MFE/Rose are very Ruina fights where everything is explained beforehand in exhausting detail, for some reason Limbus prefers hiding it's gimmicks There's no gimmick that will invisibly change a clash win to a loss though, there's usually a number of indicators that an enemy is going to hurt you very badly if you do or don't do x. Except for RR Gentleman. That rear end in a top hat. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Nov 23, 2023 |
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A few more thoughts: • Inside the Whale is totally gonna be the dungeon. • We have proved one thing: the whale’s… stuff reacts to the Q-deterrence from the Golden Bough - which qualifies it as an (escaped?) Abnormality.
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Nov 23, 2023 23:31
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Quackles posted:A few more thoughts:
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Quackles posted:A few more thoughts: comedy option: it's pinnochio
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I also figured it out as soon as I made my complaint. Bring your highest-level, best blunt IDs. Build resources in the first two waves. Clash with EGO if necessary the first turn. Ignore the minions because he'll just summon more anyway if the fight goes long enough (it shouldn't). On the second turn, the one where he only does defense actions, unload all of your best blunt attacks on him. If he doesn't stagger before the sunglasses status drops off, you might as well restart.
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I'm just happy we actually finally had a fight in the story you can't just brute force through (well, in the usual Win Rate sort of way, you can still brute force it in the intended way).
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So, anyone got any ideas on what the mermaids are trying to say? I translated some of the attacks and all I got was a bunch of nonsense, all two letters like Ryoshu was in charge of their designs  If they're nautical terms, it's nothing I can figure out. I know certain letters meant certain things using semaphore but I haven't gotten that desperate yet. Also, MOutis is one hell of a clasher and basher.
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The Morse is actually Korean Morse, not English! They're apparently saying stuff like "Help me" and "We've got to get away", but the Mermaids proper are saying they're having fun.
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KobunFan posted:So, anyone got any ideas on what the mermaids are trying to say? I translated some of the attacks and all I got was a bunch of nonsense, all two letters like Ryoshu was in charge of their designs They're talking in Korean Morse Code. It's "Save Me" and such (translated from Korean).
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That... makes a lot of sense. I feel dumb. EDIT: Beat the big fight first try! W Corp Don and Ryo along with NSin did lots of damage, RIsh was able to win clashes a couple of times with Mind Whip, same with Faust's Fluid Sac. And MOutis was there as well :zoidberg: KobunFan fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Nov 24, 2023 |
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Marluxia posted:Maybe I'm wrong, but Young-Ji didn't seem to have a significant role in Yi Sang's life, beyond being part of the same group. RandomReader posted:I thought Young-ji was a leader among the nine, wasn't he always referred to as Brother Young-ji instead of just his name?I also remember him being a member they talked about a lot more than any of the others. Edit: One thing I find interesting looking back, is that when asked why he said there are only 4 calamities now instead of 5, Vergilius starts to explain, then cuts himself off saying "you'll find out soon enough." Which makes me think he knew Indigo was in the area, since he's the reason why there are now 4. Arkanian fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Nov 24, 2023 |
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Arkanian posted:Isn't it Kim Ki Rim (The one played by Faust), not Young-Ji? "Rim" in the name, based off the guy who wrote a poem called "The Sea and the Butterfly"...
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PetraCore posted:Oh my god, this makes so much more sense. Also then maybe this isn't a Distortion? If Rim was the guy in the photo that had a head made of shadows, he might just have weird heads in general, and it could be an EGO or something, plus he's got the same potential for powers as Demian and seems to have realized those in a pretty advanced way unlike baby bird Sinclair. I'm personally of the opinion that Rim is meant to be a rival to Dante's powerset in some manner. Blue Suit to contrast Red, head replacement with a timepiece theme (hourglass instead of clock), Water Association (compared to Dante being on fire) both have a connction to the "Star" in some manner, based on a Poet (although that one isn't as meaningful given Yi Sang). Which yeah, could mean it's an EGO or stabilised Distortion, since that's the most likely explanation for Dante as well.
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Unga Bunga works pretty well on the big guy, since he does have 'normal' stagger thresholds. Apparently in the files he's level 60, Aleph  I think canto 5 is the most solid quality wise so far, hasn't really been a dead moment yet (writing wise, there were a few stages of just fighting but whatever!).
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Yesterday I learned that you can use both all three normal MD bonuses and the MDH bonus by just doing MDH, effectively negating the need to do MDN entirely. It's a nice timesaver; I just have to figure out how to budget my modules.
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I've been really enjoying this chapter thus far, especially the voice acting, but god do I miss Vellmori's artworks 
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So what have you guys been using for MDH now that we (should) have all starlight bonuses and we got a bunch of new IDs with it? Was thinking of mixing things up since I can do it comfortably now.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:So what have you guys been using for MDH now that we (should) have all starlight bonuses and we got a bunch of new IDs with it? Was thinking of mixing things up since I can do it comfortably now. Starting lineup of LCR Faust, MidMeur, Middon, Deici Rodya, and Buncliff. As I go I aim to pick up Tingtang Lu and RB Ryoshu, letting me have a full squad of purple spammers—all of whom but rodya also have envy EGO for emergencies. It works out pretty well, actually.
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TeeQueue posted:Starting lineup of LCR Faust, MidMeur, Middon, Deici Rodya, and Buncliff. As I go I aim to pick up Tingtang Lu and RB Ryoshu, letting me have a full squad of purple spammers—all of whom but rodya also have envy EGO for emergencies. ...sorry, I read MidMeur and blacked out, suddenly my MidMeur is UptieIV and levelled up, no idea when. JK, I just like him and decided "hey, at least this ID can fuel Pursuance/Regret and feels like it has better coins than Rosepanner" and also the passive is nice for when you run like WDon+WRyo or similar combos. NClair and NFaust does carry the risk of Sinclair regaining too much SP but at the same time it helps him not corrode.
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My favorite part is that because I only need 200 total cost for more 000's for the last two members of the gang, I can spend the rest on abusing upgrades to ensure that my S2s and S3 envy skills are as plentiful as possible. It's almost worth completely avoiding picking up extra members for passives, tho I'd probably still grab RB Greg just for the free healing.
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Solitair posted:Yesterday I learned that you can use both all three normal MD bonuses and the MDH bonus by just doing MDH, effectively negating the need to do MDN entirely. It's a nice timesaver; I just have to figure out how to budget my modules. Yeah, it's great. I think you technically get more battle pass exp for doing all three normal dungeons and then the hard one, but I'm not sure the module cost is worth it? Here's a list of the rewards for each type of clear that I've tried to piece together from my own runs: 1x normal dungeon clear (with no bonus) 0 Lunacy / 30 Battle Pass EXP / 100 Manager EXP / ~100 Starlight / 5 Module Cost 1x normal dungeon clear (with normal dungeon bonus) 250 Lunacy / 45 Battle Pass EXP / 100 Manager EXP / ~100 Starlight / 5 Module Cost 3x normal dungeon clears (with normal dungeon bonuses for each run) 750 Lunacy / 135 Battle Pass EXP / 300 Manager EXP / ~300 Starlight / 15 Module Cost 1x hard dungeon clear (with no bonus) 0 Lunacy / 30 Battle Pass EXP / 360 Manager EXP / ~100 Starlight / 18 Module Cost 1x hard dungeon clears (with just the hard dungeon bonus) 0 Lunacy / 150 Battle Pass EXP / 360 Manager EXP / ~100 Starlight / 18 Module Cost 1x hard dungeon clears (with the hard dungeon bonus and 1x normal bonus) 250 Lunacy / 175 Battle Pass EXP / 360 Manager EXP / ~100 Starlight / 18 Module Cost 1x hard dungeon clears (with the hard dungeon bonus and 2x normal bonus) 500 Lunacy / 200 Battle Pass EXP / 360 Manager EXP / ~100 Starlight / 18 Module Cost 1x hard dungeon clear (using all bonuses for one run) 750 Lunacy / 225 Battle Pass EXP / 360 Manager EXP / ~100 Starlight / 18 Module Cost
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Flyingbatjam posted:Yeah, it's great. I think you technically get more battle pass exp for doing all three normal dungeons and then the hard one, but I'm not sure the module cost is worth it? Here's a list of the rewards for each type of clear that I've tried to piece together from my own runs: All you really need to know from these numbers is that 3 normal dungeons and 1 hard is a total of 33 modules, and done normals first you get 135+150=285 total, versus hard first being 225+90=315 total. Always lead with the hard and if you’re only doing one make it a hard for sure.
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That and doing four MD2 run is kind of tedious, even if the normal ones are trivial. Honestly, them being so trivial just makes them more tedious.
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Marluxia posted:That and doing four MD2 run is kind of tedious, even if the normal ones are trivial. Honestly, them being so trivial just makes them more tedious.
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Finished Part 2. This is honestly my favorite Canto so far, unless it shits bed in the third part.
Not connected to the Canto, but I finally figured out how to use Sunshower Heathcliff, wohoo!
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Lt. Lizard posted:Finished Part 2. This is honestly my favorite Canto so far, unless it shits bed in the third part. Oh poo poo, I didn't consider the implications that the Palid Whale and/or U Corp's singularity might have mixed up some Ahab stuff on Ishmael and that's what's amping up her issues.
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Okay so, dumb question. I can't seem to figure out how exactly to proc the Discard on Molar Outis and Deici Rodya, which is one of the problems I'm having with 5-30. On my second try once I'd adjusted my team and levelled some, I made it to the third wave fine but I had bad luck of the draw with what skills came up and spiraled out. It's nothing a retry can't fix, and I can't exactly control if R Ish pulls Mind Whip when I need her to, but I figured I could at least weigh my dice with Outis and Rodya... if I can figure out how the gently caress to discard, because I kept trying to do that with Outis via using her defense skill or using Slice and I still kept drawing her skill 1.
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PetraCore posted:Okay so, dumb question. I can't seem to figure out how exactly to proc the Discard on Molar Outis and Deici Rodya, which is one of the problems I'm having with 5-30. On my second try once I'd adjusted my team and levelled some, I made it to the third wave fine but I had bad luck of the draw with what skills came up and spiraled out. It's nothing a retry can't fix, and I can't exactly control if R Ish pulls Mind Whip when I need her to, but I figured I could at least weigh my dice with Outis and Rodya... if I can figure out how the gently caress to discard, because I kept trying to do that with Outis via using her defense skill or using Slice and I still kept drawing her skill 1.
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PetraCore posted:Okay so, dumb question. I can't seem to figure out how exactly to proc the Discard on Molar Outis and Deici Rodya, which is one of the problems I'm having with 5-30. On my second try once I'd adjusted my team and levelled some, I made it to the third wave fine but I had bad luck of the draw with what skills came up and spiraled out. It's nothing a retry can't fix, and I can't exactly control if R Ish pulls Mind Whip when I need her to, but I figured I could at least weigh my dice with Outis and Rodya... if I can figure out how the gently caress to discard, because I kept trying to do that with Outis via using her defense skill or using Slice and I still kept drawing her skill 1. Check what the skill actually tries to discard in its description. Discard will never hit a defensive skill so if you use the top skill whilst the bottom is defensive it will discard the incoming skill. Some skills discard from every column, others their own column, etc. It requires a bit of reading basically. Deici Rodion doesn't discard on skill 1 use, discards the lowest from the column on skill 2 use, discards the lowest from every column on skill 3 use, and discards the highest from the column on defensive skill use. A skill cannot discard itself.
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Until MD2H came out, I rarely used defensive skills, and didn't realize just how good evade can be. Yes, there were evade enemies in chapter 2 that used it to good effect, but I never really realized until MD2H that evade resolution is done one coin flip at a time, and it's not simply equivalent to a 14-power clash. Anyway, evade was the MVP of That One Battle, which I went in with a team with wrong damage types and managed to get out of with just one death
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