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wilderthanmild posted:Ron Rivera is only 3 years removed from his last playoff appearance, has taken 1 team to the super bowl, and has a winning record over his career, though he could have a just barely losing one if he goes 0-5 to end the season. Given all of that I think he'd still be near the top of a lot of lists for head coach vacancies this off season assuming he gets fired and also doesn't retire. Tbh I wouldn't put it past Tepper to bring him back in once Reich is gone and if he's available. "Hey everyone, remember when the Panthers were good???"
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I could see Rivera working out on the Bears but only if he somehow got a really good offensive coordinator (who won't be poached immediately to head coach another team).
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SKULL.GIF posted:I could see Rivera working out on the Bears but only if he somehow got a really good offensive coordinator (who won't be poached immediately to head coach another team). I am so angry at you for this i can barely even type
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I suppose I could be more careful about potentially speaking things into reality.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I could see Rivera working out on the Bears but only if he somehow got a really good offensive coordinator (who won't be poached immediately to head coach another team). So Bears HC: Ron Rivera OC: Josh McDaniels
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Q_res posted:So Bears HC: Ron Rivera OC: Josh McDaniels I will see you all in temecula
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a neat cape posted:McCoy was given a 4 year deal and coached 4 years. I suppose what they've done can technically be called "coaching".
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Q_res posted:So Bears HC: Ron Rivera OC: Josh McDaniels GM: Bill Belichick
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a neat cape posted:McCoy was given a 4 year deal and coached 4 years. On the bright? side this in theory makes the job more appealing if you're a hot hire candidate. Spanos can rightly claim he's always given his coaches the full time to build a team and never fired them at the first sign of trouble. On the bad side you've wasted over a decade of your life so there is that.
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adaz posted:On the bright? side this in theory makes the job more appealing if you're a hot hire candidate. Spanos can rightly claim he's always given his coaches the full time to build a team and never fired them at the first sign of trouble. This does not include the SIX years Norv got.
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a neat cape posted:This does not include the SIX years Norv got. How many superbowls does phil rivers win if they never fire norv
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SKULL.GIF posted:I could see Rivera working out on the Bears but only if he somehow got a really good offensive coordinator (who won't be poached immediately to head coach another team). Rivera and Bienemy run it back in Chicago?
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I don't think Ron is coaching again after this
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adaz posted:How many superbowls does phil rivers win if they never fire norv Still 0. Rivers in 2012 was uh. Really bad. Mike McCoy and Ken Whisenhunt kinda revitalized him in 2013
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BlindSite posted:A team like the chargers makes more sense for Belichick because it's a more complete team. They arguably have a window to make a serious push and their biggest problem has been situational coaching and defense. I could see Belichick going to the chargers and doing what Kubiak did for the Broncos, wasn't necessarily there to build a roster or coach up a team, but there to get them past the poo poo Fox wasn't able to. They're stuck having to blow up the roster next year, because they'd otherwise have a combined 160 million tied up in Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack, due to restructuring all of their contracts next year. I think the only one who stays is Allen; Bosa, maybe. The other two are goners for sure. Ekeler has a good chance of being gone after this year as well. They pissed this season away, the moment they decided to keep Staley. They're going to have to rebuild the roster, no matter who the coach who comes in after them is, and I dunno if I would want a 70+ year old Belichick to be the one to do it. That being said, I think Staley is a goner after this year. He's just... loving embarrassing in a way the other coaches weren't. And you can't hide from the media in LA nearly as easily as in San Diego, even for total blundering morons like the Spanoses.
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a neat cape posted:This does not include the SIX years Norv got. Norv was one of those coordinators who for his time was a little too good and kept getting head coaching jobs. And he was not a good head coach and it was obvious from the start everywhere. But he always lasted for a while. The man was HC for 237 NFL games. Just sort of a fascinating career to me to ponder.
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1728193867340484637?s=20 https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1728204438945546715?s=20 https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1728199768265142742?s=20 So Robert Saleh…
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I still do not understand the point of playing Boyle. Like yes you have needed to to do something at QB for weeks but he appears to be one of the very few guys in the NFL who is much worse than Zach. Good job you somehow made the locker room morale implosion even worse
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Docjowles posted:I still do not understand the point of playing Boyle. Like yes you have needed to to do something at QB for weeks but he appears to be one of the very few guys in the NFL who is much worse than Zach. Good job you somehow made the locker room morale implosion even worse “Look at how bad the GM is that he considered this guy to be worthy of a roster spot. Fire him, but not me”
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I have to wonder how much power Saleh has between Rodgers, the GM, and the owner all wanting their guys. Saleh definitely has the defense motivated and playing their asses off, but the offense is just horrible. Or maybe the OL is just that bad, as a Titans fan I can sympathize with that one.
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The OL injuries are pretty bad, and if the Jets under Saleh had displayed any offensive competence in prior seasons I would be willing to give them the injury excuse. They didn't though, so I won't. A fully healthy Jets offense is still bottom 10 in the NFL, bottom 5 if we keep the Rodgers injury. The OL injuries are just the difference between mundane bad and all time bad.
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"Probably"? https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/1728455574692692177
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Being forcibly tied to Hackett is probably the funniest sub plot of the Aaron Rodgers saga
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Docjowles posted:Being forcibly tied to Hackett is probably the funniest sub plot of the Aaron Rodgers saga Lol Aaron Rodgers is such an organization killer. Like the dude won a super bowl almost 15 years ago and has spent every year since dunking on a terrible NFC North for the Packers to get eliminated at home in their first playoff game by whatever team won the NFC East at 7-9 that year, and he's convinced he's the smartest guy to ever be involved in football. Now he's 39, has a bigger head than ever, can't even play and he's forcing coaches and GMs to build a staff and roster around his own best interests instead of the team, like he always has. He's gonna spend a terrible 2-3 years in NYJ forcing them to keep Hackett and forbidding them from rostering any threats to his starting QB position or spending high draft picks on anything but receivers. After a couple 6-11 seasons where (assuming he doesn't get injured) he throws 18 TDs/17 INTs and has a 30 minute highlight reel of screaming at his o-line/coaches, the Jets will finally get sick of his poo poo and cut him. I heard ayahuasca makes you more of who you really are, and in Rodgers case who he really is a dumb rear end in a top hat. LaFleur must be so glad to be finally rid of him.
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The Adam Sandler movie model of forcing them to hire all of your washed up friends.
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vaginite posted:Lol Aaron Rodgers is such an organization killer. Like the dude won a super bowl almost 15 years ago and has spent every year since dunking on a terrible NFC North for the Packers to get eliminated at home in their first playoff game by whatever team won the NFC East at 7-9 that year, and he's convinced he's the smartest guy to ever be involved in football. I mean I think this is mostly unfair to Rodgers but it is funny how he keeps bringing along his lovely friends
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean I think this is mostly unfair to Rodgers but it is funny how he keeps bringing along his lovely friends You are the company you keep
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean I think this is mostly unfair to Rodgers but it is funny how he keeps bringing along his lovely friends What gets me is a lot of the disgruntlement from his time in Green Bay was the team didn't draft offensive talent for him. Rodgers goes to another team and hand-picks these guys, the Jets draft defense with their first round pick, and meanwhile Green Bay suddenly look like they have four legit prospects at WR and two at TE. Maybe it'll be fine when the Jets trade for Bakhtiari and Adams.
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SKULL.GIF posted:What gets me is a lot of the disgruntlement from his time in Green Bay was the team didn't draft offensive talent for him. Rodgers goes to another team and hand-picks these guys, the Jets draft defense with their first round pick, and meanwhile Green Bay suddenly look like they have four legit prospects at WR and two at TE. Garrett Wilson and Adams together would be extremely sick to watch, but if I'm the Raiders I'm demanding Wilson in return for Adams probably
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Packers fans are glad to be rid of Rodgers and his drama. This year is fun just because he is gone.
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I doubt Love’s the guy but it’s clear Rodgers was addition by subtraction in Green Bay.
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Kirios posted:I doubt Love’s the guy but it’s clear Rodgers was addition by subtraction in Green Bay. Well the team is about as bad as it was last year and the offense is probably a little worse so it’s not really addition at all unless you’re talking vibes because I’m sure those are better.
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Vibes, yes, and a clear step forward without him. I don’t get any perception from Packer fans that they miss him - in fact I think a ton of them were done with his antics.
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Honestly the Packers offense is following a similar pattern to last year. Started out rough but really started improving as the year went along. Though it’s honestly much more fun to watch this year rather than last year of watching Rodgers and his risk adverse rear end refusing to throw anything but a sure thing
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Kirios posted:Vibes, yes, and a clear step forward without him. Pretty easy to not miss someone who isn't even playing this year. I doubt Aaron's ever really going to come back in a meaningful way either, he was looking well-done even before the injury.
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Kirios posted:I don’t get any perception from Packer fans that they miss him - in fact I think a ton of them were done with his antics. I was calling for a complete tear down of the Packers front office and coaching staff from the Raiders game until Thanksgiving, and not for one second did I ever think, “if only we kept Aaron Rodgers.” At 39, he’s not the solution to any problem. Sure, he’s a better QB than Zach Wilson, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Rodgers can’t even finish a game without getting injured anymore.
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Honestly the funniest part of this whole thing is Aaron pretending he could come back from an Achilles in 3 loving months and the front office being like "yeah sure, we trust your judgment."
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vaginite posted:He's gonna spend a terrible 2-3 years in NYJ forcing them to keep Hackett and forbidding them from rostering any threats to his starting QB position or spending high draft picks on anything but receivers. After a couple 6-11 seasons where (assuming he doesn't get injured) he throws 18 TDs/17 INTs and has a 30 minute highlight reel of screaming at his o-line/coaches, the Jets will finally get sick of his poo poo and cut him. The Jets are in such an awkward spot, because they pretty much have to fire Joe Douglas at the end of this year, but any new GM they bring on will be stuck with Saleh/Hackett until Rodgers retires or they have to find a coach who is cool with Hackett staying onboard.
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Shrimpy posted:The Jets are in such an awkward spot, because they pretty much have to fire Joe Douglas at the end of this year, but any new GM they bring on will be stuck with Saleh/Hackett until Rodgers retires or they have to find a coach who is cool with Hackett staying onboard. Just do it like GB did—have a HC who calls the offensive plays and then Hackett can be “OC”/aaron’s friend
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Shrimpy posted:The Jets are in such an awkward spot, because they pretty much have to fire Joe Douglas at the end of this year, but any new GM they bring on will be stuck with Saleh/Hackett until Rodgers retires or they have to find a coach who is cool with Hackett staying onboard. Sounds like it buys the new GM a few free years at the outset, the ol "I didn't hire that coach / pick that QB" gambit
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