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Gonz posted:I still don’t understand why he’s so angry all the time. He’s got a beautiful wife, a ton of money, and had a situation in AEW where he didn’t have to be on the road 330 days a year, and had he not poo poo all over both his chances to remain there, he could’ve had the kind of final run in the business where he could’ve wrestled whomever he wanted, wherever he wanted, for whatever title he wanted, basically he until he retired. My speculation is that he wanted to become the Triple H of AEW. He was one of the top guys, but wanted to be the undisputed top guy with limitless power even after the in-ring career.
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WWE is a very different company now and has a much more mature locker room
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Punk's line to MJF "Will you be my Valentine?" While holding up the dog collar is one of the best promo lines in wrestling history bit it does require knowing a small bit of wrestling history to land as hard as it did
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JUNGLE BOY posted:WWE is a very different company now and has a much more mature locker room it's full of old guys yeah
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JUNGLE BOY posted:WWE is a very different company now and has a much more mature locker room
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Weren't there rumors floating around that Punk signed with AEW because the court cases with WWE and Colt ate up a lot of his savings? Anyway, I don't really have sympathy for Punk. Dude painted himself as a rebel against the old guard until he became the old guard. The man had a fanbiy for a boss and he still got fired when he put his hands on him. I dunno if we'll see him tomorrow. I doubt it.
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Nov 25, 2023 10:58
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Gonz posted:Doesn’t HHH notoriously despise Punk? I know that after the fact, Vince was always amenable to working with Punk again, because Vince loves making money, but HHH was pretty firm in his hatred of Punk (and the way Punk left the company). It's a two mirrors hating each other situation - forgotten about in the annals of wrestling history is in the mid 90s Triple H had similar ideals as Punk, he was antisteroid use and was natural with a tonne of wrestling's all backing up the poo poo he would say to them and his high and mighty attitude of superiority compared to the boys in the back. Then of course he loaded up on roids and became a God by selling out his ideals for knowing what was the way to make more money than nearly anyone else. Meanwhile Punk, at least pre-meltdown Punk, is so strict in his principles and his beliefs he'd sooner break than bend even a little hence why he pisses off everyone so easily due to that if his principles are wrong he will never re-evaluate them becoming a hard-line jackass. Punk sees Trips as a corporate sell out shrill who will only step on you to get up the ladder and Trips sees Punk as this self-righteous rear end in a top hat mark who thinks the world revolved around him.
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The company's been insistent enough, to both fans and the roster (a lot of whom hate him, and a lot of whom would hate him and the company more if they were lied to about something like this), that he's not coming back today that I actually believe he probably isn't. I'd hope that's a permanent thing/that he really has blown through all the chances top companies in the US are willing to give him, but it's more believable and likely that it's a situation everyone there believes at least needs much more time to cool down And yes there is a PPV today Survivor Series: WarGames posted:Dragon Lee vs Santos Escobar
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Why can't GUNTHER defend against Dragon Lee and Santos Escobar who should remask and go back to being King Cuerno
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Chris James 2 posted:The company's been insistent enough, to both fans and the roster (a lot of whom hate him, and a lot of whom would hate him and the company more if they were lied to about something like this), that he's not coming back today that I actually believe he probably isn't. I'd hope that's a permanent thing/that he really has blown through all the chances top companies in the US are willing to give him, but it's more believable and likely that it's a situation everyone there believes at least needs much more time to cool down Yeah I'll be watching AEW with the cool posters
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Look CM Punk has never had a problem with HHH. It's always been Jack Perry that was holding him down, and his pal Hunter is going to give him his chance to give his side of the story.
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Lid posted:Why can't GUNTHER defend against Dragon Lee and Santos Escobar who should remask and go back to being King Cuerno Because the Miz really wants a bloody chest. Let him have this.
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The biggest problem Punk would have in WWE if he went back is that there are so many women in the locker room that he might go broke buying them Starbucks gift cards https://x.com/Fightful/status/1726802742176629022?s=20 Seriously, they should probably rename the Bechdel test to the Levesque test at this point
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JUNGLE BOY posted:The biggest problem Punk would have in WWE if he went back is that there are so many women in the locker room that he might go broke buying them Starbucks gift cards The only Levesque test is if he's going over
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projecthalaxy posted:his pal Hunter is going to give him his chance to finish his side of the story.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:WWE is smart enough to put business first these days, it’s why they’re winning Trips is wiping the floor with Tiny Con this year and it’s not even close. It’s gonna pain me to vote for the King of Kings as booker of the year on my WOR ballot this year but I cannot tell a lie.
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Some rando coming in and going “Who’s this CM Punk guy?” generates pages of discussion and armchair psychology. If you really need any proof that he’s one of the best to ever do it.
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I don't think being a really good wrestler requires being a giant freak which is what most of the discussion is about.
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Pylons posted:I don't think being a really good wrestler requires being a giant freak which is what most of the discussion is about. This is not true at all. There’s never been a great wrestler who wasn’t a giant freak. There’s been good wrestlers, but to be great you have to be an insane freak. Imo
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The_Rob posted:This is not true at all. There’s never been a great wrestler who wasn’t a giant freak. There’s been good wrestlers, but to be great you have to be an insane freak. Imo I think Kenny Omega is pretty low on the freak scale. Okada too probably, he's just a silly guy.
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We had Brawl Out and Brawl In, maybe he can stick around until late January, add Royal Rumbrawl.
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Pylons posted:I think Kenny Omega is pretty low on the freak scale. Okada too probably, he's just a silly guy. Omega's willingness to grind himself into dust for pro wrestling is what makes him a freak.
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CombineThresher posted:Omega's willingness to grind himself into dust for pro wrestling is what makes him a freak. Exactly
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JUNGLE BOY posted:WWE is a very different company now and has a much more mature locker room Lol
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Ridge Holland walks out on his beloved partner BUTCH, PLUS we get denied a Carlito PPV match and all you people can talk about is a guy who doesn't even work for WWE, smh
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JUNGLE BOY posted:WWE is smart enough to put business first these days, it’s why they’re winning oh come on now. They are winning and will always win because they have half a decade of momentum on their side and are seen by the vast majority of American fans as THE wrestling company. It would take something like Sega wasting hundreds of millions of dollars to even put a dent in their lead.
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Chris James 2 posted:Pretty much Did he work Naito during that stretch? Cause Naito was just as much of a freak working through Double Vision so that'd sure be a match
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Lamuella posted:I feel like he would be a lot of fun as a heelish corporate stooge. Coming back in to his old Straight Edge Society music, gladhanding everyone, thanking Mr Helmsley for the chance, etc. And then 12 months later turning face. He'd never do it, though. That's what is so funny. He has a way forward but would him having to admit some hard truths to himself to a worked shoot run about his gently caress ups and as we see with the Collision police state he was running, he can't do it. I've always thought Punk was overrated since his ROH run but he has had his moments. But despite me not liking him a lot he is on the more transparently fascinating guys in wrestling.
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imagine the confused pop if randy came out to this song again tonight https://youtu.be/PbfuHLtLqkQ?si=uKxZlqUMhxkCghNB
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Tato posted:Ridge Holland walks out on his beloved partner BUTCH, PLUS we get denied a Carlito PPV match and all you people can talk about is a guy who doesn't even work for WWE, smh That's because no one watches wwe op
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Gonz posted:Doesn’t HHH notoriously despise Punk? I know that after the fact, Vince was always amenable to working with Punk again, because Vince loves making money, but HHH was pretty firm in his hatred of Punk (and the way Punk left the company). A few months ago when Punk stopped by Raw to 'mend some fences' the rumor was that Triple H was willing to talk to him about stuff but he wanted to ask Vince if ti was ok if Punk was backstage and allegedly Vince said to throw him out. You can take that whichever way you want.
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