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Yeah I never personally use the zealot charge for the mobility, it's usually just an extra damage/toughness button to use in emergencies.
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SkyeAuroline posted:Wow, that's news to me. I wish sliding felt better in this game from a control perspective - most other games are more forgiving with the timing, but I swear a good third of the time that I try sliding in DT it just doesn't register at all. More practice I suppose. In a level five two nights ago, I watched a psyker smoothly and calmly go Equilibrium mode on a never ending chain of wave after wave after wave of specialists while three of us were waiting to be rescued poo poo you not, after a solid 8 minutes he had killed everything, street samurai style. The director finally stopped spawning huge amounts of bullshit at him, and we were rescued. I am now practicing sliding every opportunity I have, in combat, out of combat, wherever. It's pretty clear to me now that this is the way to play this game. I feel like, I am moving but not sliding, I am falling myself.
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Nov 25, 2023 20:57
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The recently buffed “Stripped Down” blessing for autoguns can also be very useful. You remain completely immune to ranged attacks while sprinting above 50% stamina (at rank 4). This allows you to close in against an unlimited number of shooters/gunners/snipers without burning any resources. And immunity affects the enemy AI, causing them to either be quick to engage you in melee (good) or ignore you and shoot at your allies, presenting an easy backstab target (better).
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Nov 25, 2023 21:01
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a good sword psyker slider samurai seems to me like the "I studied the blade" meme guy, except they also have the experience to back it up
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Nov 25, 2023 21:01
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Exodee posted:This crit-build is what I've been liking for Auric HISTG missions: Consider swapping unremitting and sainted gunslinger for shield of contempt and hammer of faith, shield of contempt is the #1 strongest zealot passive for you and your team and 30% more impact with a crusher won't hurt, if reload sucks on the revolver consider slapping speedloader on it if you can for +50%. Could also get rid of thy wrath be swift and optional chorus buff passive to slot in 50% tdr on crit and 20% cdr on back kills for more chorus with pious cut-throat and enduring faith, the optional chorus buffs aren't really worth the point because your team is already immortal and cutting it's cooldown by 20% after assisting a teammate with a poxwalker ain't bad. On another note I feel like the charge is zealot's 3rd best ability, chorus makes your team immortal for a good long while and presses pause on any conflict, giving your team plenty of time to recover and chop through any major dangers while invulnerable and +100 toughness to tank gunners and stealth is the ultimate clutch ability being able to revive teammates in peace and easily recover from a last man standing situation.
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Nov 25, 2023 21:09
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Potato Salad posted:In a level five two nights ago, I watched a psyker smoothly and calmly go Equilibrium mode on a never ending chain of wave after wave after wave of specialists while three of us were waiting to be rescued whenever it's down to one person I always type as much encouraging stuff as possible and it's awesome when every so often you have three people cheering on John Wick. I have never been that person but I respect the more skilled
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Nov 25, 2023 21:16
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:chorus makes your team immortal for a good long while and presses pause on any conflict, giving your team plenty of time to recover and chop through any major dangers while invulnerable and +100 toughness to tank gunners and stealth is the ultimate clutch ability being able to revive teammates in peace and easily recover from a last man standing situation. This morning I did a 5 run with two shield psykers, a chorus zealot, and me as their pet ogryn. Good god shields and chorus are incredible. I think somebody either in here or in the discord said that somebody spamming chorus or shield is doing more work than the twitchiest MLG veteran possibly could, and I now see why that is.
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Nov 25, 2023 21:20
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Potato Salad posted:This morning I did a 5 run with two shield psykers, a chorus zealot, and me as their pet ogryn. Good god shields and chorus are incredible. I think somebody either in here or in the discord said that somebody spamming chorus or shield is doing more work than the twitchiest MLG veteran possibly could, and I now see why that is. Hell yeah brother! Slowing the game down a bit is like a cheat code
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Nov 25, 2023 21:24
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SkyeAuroline posted:Wow, that's news to me. I wish sliding felt better in this game from a control perspective - most other games are more forgiving with the timing, but I swear a good third of the time that I try sliding in DT it just doesn't register at all. More practice I suppose. Veteran and Psyker also have reduced toughness damage while sliding but it's 50%.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Consider swapping unremitting and sainted gunslinger for shield of contempt and hammer of faith, shield of contempt is the #1 strongest zealot passive for you and your team and 30% more impact with a crusher won't hurt, if reload sucks on the revolver consider slapping speedloader on it if you can for +50%. That was the reason why I went with Sainted Gunslinger because I figured you "waste" a point anyway and I always like having extra reload speed. Good point on Shield of Contempt though, it's probably way more impactful than the reload speed bonus since it's probably not very common that you reload from 0 to 5 on the revolver as you should always try to stay topped off. I've already commented about Thy Wrath Be Swith vs Enduring Faith, and for the most part I find Thy Wrath to be more useful, though of course with the extra opportunity cost to get it. I haven't considered dropping that and the extra damage bonus on Chorus for the backstab talent though, but getting extra ult uptime for that trade sounds like a great idea. Anyways, putting all this together would make the build look like this instead: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ab30a1b-a141-4ce2-8a42-77b96d9e3d1a
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Nov 25, 2023 21:27
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Benagain posted:whenever it's down to one person I always type as much encouraging stuff as possible and it's awesome when every so often you have three people cheering on John Wick. Normally if I'm the only player left, at least 2 of the other players who are downed will drop. Half of my last 4 damnation runs ended with a different team from when they started.
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Now that I've gotten my volley fire penance dine I've swapped over to a Shout veteran and the bottom right capstone talent. You can fire off some supremely nasty plasma shots after doing a bit of melee horde clearing.
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Nov 25, 2023 22:11
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Normally if I'm the only player left, at least 2 of the other players who are downed will drop. Half of my last 4 damnation runs ended with a different team from when they started. It's kind of lovely that people drop so quickly. And I guess it's nice to have a bot save the day, but also feels janky. People will always quit for sure, but I do also think making it so it's not faster to quit out than it is to make it through the end of game scene/checkout would be nice.
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Nov 25, 2023 22:13
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Same thing happens in apex legends, team game where the pubbies will insta-quit back to menu the nano second they go down and can't shoot the gun no more even if they would of been okay if they waited 5 seconds for their team to save them, I swear those types of players spend more time looking at menu's then actually playing the game in the end and it seems weird to go 15+ minutes through with a team to almost the very end and then quitting with the finish line in sight.
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I swear sometimes people went down and quit out in just the span of time it took me to see them down and before I could hit Kruber's shout revive a second later back in Vermintide 2.
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Internet Explorer posted:It's kind of lovely that people drop so quickly. And I guess it's nice to have a bot save the day, but also feels janky. People will always quit for sure, but I do also think making it so it's not faster to quit out than it is to make it through the end of game scene/checkout would be nice. Well, I mean you do get a bot to replace them and for a certain segment of the game's population weighted heavily toward the type of person who insta-quits that is a huge improvement.
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So, quick question. Just started today...tried all the classes (got them up at least a few levels) before settling on the Zealot. Hit Rank 12 and I tend to completely avoid range and just rush in with either a Chain Sword or the Crusher but I am realizing I never do heavy attacks. I just dodge and quick attack nonstop. Is that like...a bad habit as a Zealot? Should I be mixing in more heavy attacks? Got the Immolation grenade and I'm in heaven burning all the heretics I have benediction and, as fun as Fury of the faithful sounds, think I'm going to juke over and grab Chorus of the Spiritual Fortitude Tiny Chalupa fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Nov 26, 2023 |
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Nov 26, 2023 01:21
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So the important thing to know about heavy vs fast attacks is that they are just tools and a lot of tools don't make sense on lower difficulty just because of enemy density. The heavy attack on the eviscerator is a wide sweep for instance, but the second heavy attack in the sequence is a chop, so you might chain a heavy into a light into a heavy to give yourself more space. Weapons have light chains, heavy chains, push-attacks and some have alt-fire attacks. Learning when to use which is critical for reaching the skill ceiling but you'll get there naturally. Also heavy attacks usually deal more damage and against carapace you pretty much have to heavy attack. If you're just kind of spamming fast attack that ca kind of get you killed later. Maybe. If you're dodging and blocking and not taking much damage you're probably okay for now.
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When gearing up early on in Vermintide, is it better to keep a lower power level trinket with good bonuses than a trinket with nothing on it? I'm not entirely clear on the significance of item power.
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In VT2 hero power affects damage and stagger. The exact bonuses on trinkets (and weapons, frankly) are not nearly as important as grinding the hero power treadmill when leveling.
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Mendrian posted:In VT2 hero power affects damage and stagger. The exact bonuses on trinkets (and weapons, frankly) are not nearly as important as grinding the hero power treadmill when leveling. Good to know, thanks!
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So after trying out the revised crusher build (thanks to Ra Ra Rasputin) the +30% impact strength talent is actually really really good because it allows you to interrupt Rager combos with just a light attack to the head! This also means that you don't need any extra stamina curios, since you only need to spam the shove-attack on Ogryn Crushers. Specifically you need any of the crusher's Relentless attacks, which are represented by the split-arrow symbol on the crusher's info screen:  As you can see the crusher has a whole load of them in its attack chains, but you have to avoid doing a Strikedown attack which while more lethal doesn't have nearly as much impact. So with that talent with just a light attack -> heavy attack -> repeat pattern you can stunlock a whole bunch of Ragers forever, even if they're mid-combo. Alternatively if there's just one of them you can light attack him out of his combo and then do repeated strikedowns to finish him off quickly. Be careful that you don't hit them in the arms though, with some attack animations they raise them up which covers their face. edit: Testing it some more in the Psykhanium, without +30% impact you can only interrupt Rager combos with a heavy relentless attack to the head or the special charged attack. With the talent however not only can you do it with a light instead but against the flak armored variant you can even interrupt them with a heavy relentless attack to the body which completely trivializes them. The maniac variant still requires a weakspot hit strangely enough, but after a single stagger you can smack them around all the same. Exodee fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Nov 26, 2023 |
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Played my ogryn last night and man it's nice to be able to just stagger crushers over and over. Makes things so much more manageable
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I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for the Ogryn Shovel but I'm all aboard team slap now. Specifically using the Bully Club mk IIIb for easy heavy cleave spam. https://i.imgur.com/ItTI5Tb.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/OF5Ad1I.mp4 Haymaker feels really good now too. Buffed HP on Ragers and Maulers matters a lot less when you're one shotting them!  I didn't fully understand the text before. I thought it was just a 4% chance to instakill but it stacks 5 times, and in any horde situation it will be stacked.
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Diephoon posted:I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for the Ogryn Shovel but I'm all aboard team slap now. Specifically using the Bully Club mk IIIb for easy heavy cleave spam. I know it's not meta but the brainburst perk for psykers that kinda works like that where all your attacks have a chance to brain burst enemies is also fun. I once accidentally melted a nurgle beast when my flame staff procced it (edit: couldnt have been in a row due to 15s cooldown so now I'm confused what the hell happened then) Handy when a rager/mauler etc just stops being a problem suddenly ZeusCannon fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Nov 26, 2023 |
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I miss the glory days of the totally op power sword but I knuckled down and made the newer mk vi model with t3 brutal momentum and slaughterer and it seems pretty good. It's very fun to charge a light swing and take the heads off of every horde mob in front of you. Wish I could get power cycles on it but just don't have access yet, going to keep an eye on melks.
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Sharkopath posted:I miss the glory days of the totally op power sword but I knuckled down and made the newer mk vi model with t3 brutal momentum and slaughterer and it seems pretty good. It's very fun to charge a light swing and take the heads off of every horde mob in front of you. Wish I could get power cycles on it but just don't have access yet, going to keep an eye on melks. I have been looking for that blessing for the past two weeks with no luck. 
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drat Dirty Ape posted:I have been looking for that blessing for the past two weeks with no luck. When I was making a gorgonum for my ogryn it took all month to finally cycle In a gun that had t4 charmed reload, and this week melk put two of them in the shop. Crafting dumb. Genuinely instead of minmaxing blessings I'm happy just taking a 360+ base roll, taking it to orange and fixing whatever I can on it, without bothering to try over and over again to get a perfect weapon with max blessings. Too many annoying variables. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Nov 26, 2023 |
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drat Dirty Ape posted:I have been looking for that blessing for the past two weeks with no luck. Melk was selling a mk6 with power cycler 4 like 4 days ago, sorry bud
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Preechr posted:Melk was selling a mk6 with power cycler 4 like 4 days ago, sorry bud Does everyone see the same items? Oh well, I’m sure it will come up again the next time I don’t log on and check.
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Diephoon posted:
Wait, does Haymaker work on Ogryn?? They are definitely not human sized lmao
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Preechr posted:Melk was selling a mk6 with power cycler 4 like 4 days ago, sorry bud drat Dirty Ape posted:Does everyone see the same items? Oh well, I’m sure it will come up again the next time I don’t log on and check. Nope, it's all personalized. You can't see the same stuff anyone else has.
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S.J. posted:Wait, does Haymaker work on Ogryn?? They are definitely not human sized lmao Chaos warriors counted as "human sized" in vermintide.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Chaos warriors counted as "human sized" in vermintide. REALLY? I don't think this ever clicked in my brain, as much as I probably saw the effects happen.
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I haven’t seen it since I started again but is Power Cycler 4 +2 if Cycler 3 is +1?
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been doing Crusher things with the Zealot and it's pretty dang good. Shout out to the +30% Impact talent suggestion, you just knock everything on its rear end forever.
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ZeusCannon posted:I know it's not meta but the brainburst perk for psykers that kinda works like that where all your attacks have a chance to brain burst enemies is also fun. I once accidentally melted a nurgle beast when my flame staff procced it (edit: couldnt have been in a row due to 15s cooldown so now I'm confused what the hell happened then) You might’ve gotten lucky with crits and hit max stacks on the BoN real fast.
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A helbore with surgical, ammo aura and the lasgun perk just never runs out of ammo. An entire damnation carnival and I only dropped below 90 percent once, never touched an ammo pickup. poo poo rules. Just wish the sights weren't so bad. I used to use the weapon customization mod but he feature creeped that into running like rear end.
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Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:A helbore with surgical, ammo aura and the lasgun perk just never runs out of ammo. An entire damnation carnival and I only dropped below 90 percent once, never touched an ammo pickup. poo poo rules. I dunno I'm using the most recent(or at least most recent as of about a week ago) version and I'm not noticing any performance impact from using it, though I should probably turn off the setting that causes weapons from the store to be randomized since while it results in cool looking weapons it also sometimes has weird results that can impact gameplay
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