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the episode where frasier adapts a no shoes indoors policy after getting new carpet but the condo board bans his (extremely tasteful) shoe tree from the hallway
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Nov 19, 2023 04:30
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Frasier got Oprah money now, he bought the building.
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Nov 19, 2023 07:31
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They made the main character rich for Cosby Mysteries and Roseanne, and I think those are remembered fondly.
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Nov 26, 2023 03:34
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I mean Kelsey is a turd, but he's had a rough go of things. He's allowed a few brain worms. So far he's not egregiously terrible.
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Nov 26, 2023 03:49
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I don't think Grammer has necessarily let his brain worms get in the way of his actual work as far as I know. Apparently there were times where he'd just sit around like a zombie on stage until he was called up to act and then suddenly became Frasier.
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Nov 26, 2023 04:28
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That makes "The Boss" eerie to watch in retrospect.
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Nov 26, 2023 04:31
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They should tell Kelsey Grammar that he is in a reality show being filmed 24/7 in the style of a Frasier mockumentary but he has to improv due to the nature of it. We could swap Grammar out and have a real life Frasier Crane in our world. Just tell him it's an editing day when you need to give him a day off to record Sideshow Bob
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John Wick of Dogs posted:They should tell Kelsey Grammar that he is in a reality show being filmed 24/7 in the style of a Frasier mockumentary but he has to improv due to the nature of it. He already sort of was when I met him in the 90s. There was no line between Kelsey Grammar as a person and Frasier as a persona every time I interacted with him.
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Nov 27, 2023 23:22
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I guess Grammer gave an interview with the BBC where he confirmed he's still a Trump supporting but the Paramount folks shut it down? You love to see it folks.
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Dec 4, 2023 18:25
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poo poo bag. Amazing how Niles vicariously redeemed the David character with the "send me to trade school" line.
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Dec 4, 2023 19:07
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:I guess Grammer gave an interview with the BBC where he confirmed he's still a Trump supporting but the Paramount folks shut it down? I saw that as well, the reporter said that after the cameras were off he was "happy" to expound on his Trump support, but then Paramount's PR people stepped in and shut that down real quick. He also said he was inspired to bring Frasier back by Tim Allen and Roseanne Barr, too.
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Dec 4, 2023 19:14
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Tim Allen's Santa Clause series is pretty good if you like those movies. He has the ability to shut his mouth and play nice when it means he gets to get an ep credit and cast his daughter in a lead role
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Dec 4, 2023 19:18
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The first Santa Clause movie is okay. The other ones are dog poo poo. I have strong opinions on this i guess.
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:The first Santa Clause movie is okay. I like the second one. Never made it through the third. But I love the crazy robot Santa
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Dec 4, 2023 19:36
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The Santa Clause movies became good like fifteen years after when I understood the punny spelling
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Kelsey Grammer is a stupid rear end in a top hat, but at least isn't a snitch so he gets points for that in my book
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Dec 6, 2023 00:03
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I can't really defend this, but I guess part of me wishes interviewers just wouldn't ask about this stuff. I'd honestly rather not know. The really awful ones have a way of outing themselves anyhow.
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Dec 6, 2023 03:56
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I hadn't really been keeping up with the new series episodes after watching the first two or three, and now I just won't bother. Thanks Kelsey! 
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Dec 6, 2023 04:08
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I will never care, Kelsey Grammar has infinite forgiveness from me. He could have been at Jan 6th and I wouldn't give a gently caress
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Dec 6, 2023 13:02
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It was disappointing hearing about it years ago. This it's just confirmation that, yup, he's still the same guy.
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Dec 6, 2023 13:33
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Just set the Frasier theme as my ringtone. The blues are calling, guys. I've gotta answer this one.
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Dec 6, 2023 15:11
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Kelsey Grammer was vocally pro-Iraq war 20 years ago when the show itself was still on, whatever cancelling of him in my mind occurred then but I never stopped liking "Frasier". Perfect example of when to separate the art from the artist imo
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Dec 6, 2023 15:26
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Just remember, his Dad was stabbed to death in front of his eyes by a man named Niles. And then he spent fifteen years pretending a man named Niles was his brother whom he loved. So his head ain't right.
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Dec 6, 2023 15:43
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I really, sincerely don't get that. I want to hear all the conversations the cast and crew had about that. Like I imagine them coming up with a name for the character and Grammer just growls out "Nnnilessss..." Everyone stops and thinks, my God, that's perfect. Niles. Can we use that? Grammer doesn't respond. He's looking into the distance, clenching and unclenching his fists to an unheard rhythm. "Okay, Niles it is! Good work, everyone." "Yes. Yes." Whispers Grammer. "Well done indeed... ...Niles."
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Dec 6, 2023 15:48
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His brother was eaten by a shark!  Some people experience so much trauma that I'm willing to forgive a mere opinion.
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Batman has less trauma in his backstory than Kelsey Grammer does.
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SettingSun posted:Batman has less trauma in his backstory than Kelsey Grammer does. I was thinking Tracy Jordan
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I will never care, Kelsey Grammar has infinite forgiveness from me. He could have been at Jan 6th and I wouldn't give a gently caress "Niles, who are these 'Proud Boys?' Is that some offshoot of the Boy Scouts?" "That man appears to be dressed in some sort of frontiersman's regalia, let's ask him."
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Dec 6, 2023 18:19
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"Supporting Trump" is way more troubling than just "voted for him prior to January 6" or "is generally Republican/conservative". At this point you've really got to push past a lot of proven moral and civic issues. That being said, I'll still watch stuff he's in unless he really starts using his platform for evil. If he never mentions this again then I'm content to never mention it again either. *sigh* I can't say I love the odds of that happening though
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Dec 6, 2023 18:38
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truly, the star of Money Plane deserves all the simping if I could explain why millenials are obsessed with sitcoms from the 90s and 00s, I'd probably be rich. Frasier was never the one that hit for me, my guilty pleasure is 30 Rock, but at least I don't make excuses for Tina Fey's bullshit lol.
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Sir Lemming posted:I can't really defend this, but I guess part of me wishes interviewers just wouldn't ask about this stuff. I'd honestly rather not know. The really awful ones have a way of outing themselves anyhow. I'm fine with it. Lets me know what shows not to watch!
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Sir Lemming posted:"Supporting Trump" is way more troubling than just "voted for him prior to January 6" or "is generally Republican/conservative". At this point you've really got to push past a lot of proven moral and civic issues. That being said, I'll still watch stuff he's in unless he really starts using his platform for evil. If he never mentions this again then I'm content to never mention it again either. Yeah at this point in history, if you're supporting Trump, you're pretty much saying "I'm okay with fascism", which goes a bit beyond merely expressing a political opinion
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Kelsey already has a handler to keep him from saying things who is pulling the leash. Hard to believe anyone who has a genuine ‘one more time’ line is long gone.
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Dec 6, 2023 19:31
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The show itself has Kelsey’s weird ego all over it too tbh. Like just the fact that the character considers himself this sexy rich psychologist superstar and is still going around on dates with attractive women at 70 years old and all the other characters just accept this as fact. Like if the show wasn’t created by him I’m sure it would be less positive towards his character and it would make for a more interesting show.
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Dec 6, 2023 19:41
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What if one human being had the worst luck and the best luck SIMULTANEOUSLY
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Annabel Pee posted:The show itself has Kelsey’s weird ego all over it too tbh. Like just the fact that the character considers himself this sexy rich psychologist superstar and is still going around on dates with attractive women at 70 years old and all the other characters just accept this as fact. Like if the show wasn’t created by him I’m sure it would be less positive towards his character and it would make for a more interesting show. There are countless examples of old rich dudes with young hot wives. Not sure how that puts any stretch on your suspension of disbelief. Patrick Stewart is 83, his wife is 44. John Cleese is 84, his wife 43.
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I think the saving grace is that the much younger women inevitably get tired of him and his poo poo within a 20 minute plot arc.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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The General posted:There are countless examples of old rich dudes with young hot wives. Not sure how that puts any stretch on your suspension of disbelief. It’s nothing against it being unrealistic it’s more than I think the writing is kind of afraid of poking too much fun at the elements of Frasier that are closer to his actual personality.
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