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Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

In Training posted:

Going to watch the karate kid. I'll let you all know it's socialist or nah.

The group class loses to the kid who gets privileged one-on-one training. The movie is about the failure of socialism and the triumph of the individual.

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

1stGear posted:

Aang's hesitation would have be better if something that was more organically woven into the season or if taking away someone's bending had ever been mentioned before. As it is, it takes up all of one episode and is resolved by a god showing up and saying "Here's your free out, kid! Have fun!"

In retrospect, it was a canary in the coal mine for the writers not being able or willing to deal with the more complex issues they brought up in Korra and then flung in similar moral outs for.

eh, that seed of the avatar having direct control over bending abilities was planted with the guru he met toward the end of season 2 but definitely wasn't highlighted or explored in season 3. one or two fewer segments with laser head guy could have solved two problems (the other being Too Much Laser Head Guy)

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.
Movies that are not socialist:

Lucas
Blade Runner
Sixteen Candles
Some Kind of Wonderful

Movies that are socialist:

Real Genius
Heathers

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

In Training posted:

Going to watch the karate kid. I'll let you all know it's socialist or nah.

William Zabka sweeps Ralph Macchio's leg and raises his arm for a final blow. Ralph braces for impact, but nothing happens. He uncovers his eyes, and sees Karl Marx standing over him, blocking Zabka's arm. Light shines through the open windows, illuminating Marx's glorious beard. "The Glory Of Love" plays triumphantly. Marx is dressed as Goku.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Eric Cantonese posted:

The group class loses to the kid who gets privileged one-on-one training. The movie is about the failure of socialism and the triumph of the individual.

why does the Cobra Kai guy get so invested in bullying ralph macchio anyway. Why does he give a poo poo.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

In Training posted:

why does the Cobra Kai guy get so invested in bullying ralph macchio anyway. Why does he give a poo poo.

he was gonna turn his life around (or something along those lines)for his senior year but his psychotic teacher and his poo poo father in law didn’t raise a kid that would just let it go after the beach incident.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

sonatinas posted:

he was gonna turn his life around (or something along those lines)for his senior year but his psychotic teacher and his poo poo father in law didn’t raise a kid that would just let it go after the beach incident.

I meant the teacher.

Durf
Aug 16, 2017




hard to imagine a martial arts instructor being a violent shithead

especially ones teaching american stripmall karate

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

saw napoleon. very little class-based analysis i'm afraid.

Durf
Aug 16, 2017




is there going to be a 6 hour directors cut cause maybe I'll wait for that

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

stanley kubrick's ghost be like: i spent a decade researching for a napoleon movie and he, he just poo poo it out...

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
it shouldn't take that long, Stan

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

josh04 posted:

saw napoleon. very little class-based analysis i'm afraid.

they killed napoleon because he was trying to create socialism

Popy
Feb 19, 2008

he was pretty good at killing germans

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


YaketySass posted:

In addition to everything else Korra seems like they didn't know what to do with the secondary characters. The love triangle feels like a symptom of that and they quietly dump it in the later seasons.

I think it's interesting that Korra has a huge cast of 50 year old + failkids, many of them childless, and it's way more interested in them than the teenagers. There's so few shows like that.

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

So everyone was ready to pitch in on Blue Eye Samurai's position on RAHOWA, but not one of you could take the time to prepare me for Kenneth Brannagh's perfect Brian Cox impression.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

indigi posted:

it shouldn't take that long, Stan

there was no internet back then so in order to learn stuff you had to read books (boring)

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

josh04 posted:

saw napoleon. very little class-based analysis i'm afraid.

I saw Napoleon today. It was straight up bullshit British and royalist propaganda. However, I enjoyed all the costuming and sets. It's an incredibly stupid movie. Aggressively stupid. If you just let it wash over you you'll have a fine time

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

I liked the 18th Brumaire scene but Napoleon did get to be a slog once you get done admiring the costumes.

Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I saw Napoleon today. It was straight up bullshit British and royalist propaganda. However, I enjoyed all the costuming and sets. It's an incredibly stupid movie. Aggressively stupid. If you just let it wash over you you'll have a fine time

THE EMPEROR IS IN MY SIGHT! :sicknasty:

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Welp disappointing, but at least theres more nappy coming down the pipeline

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

If you think about it Napoleon really was the Donald Trump of the 1700's

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Fuligin posted:

Welp disappointing, but at least theres more nappy coming down the pipeline

is this like The Wiz version of a historical biopic

Popy
Feb 19, 2008

need a based Napoleon movie

Samuel Glompers
Nov 26, 2020

Clip-On Fedora posted:

If you think about it Napoleon really was the Donald Trump of the 1700's

Love the idea of Napoleon's success coming from total disrespect for his men and refusing to pay them in anything but bullshit trinkets

Samuel Glompers
Nov 26, 2020
As far as I know the trinkets they got from conquest were not bullshit and in fact made his men wealthy

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Popy posted:

need a based Napoleon movie

there's one. it was made in 1927

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


napoleon is a shoe in for a best costume oscar, otherwise it was pretty funny and i enjoyed it. was it stupid? yes but it was enjoyably so. probably one of the prettier movies this year, I liked the big wide shots. definitely stinky british propagandizing tho

absolutely felt chopped to poo poo by editing for screentime, but that's what the four hour ~director's cut~ is for i guess

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
do you think Napoleon would be good at VGC doubles and which gen do you think he would prefer

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

napoleon was a meepo main

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo

Popy posted:

need a based Napoleon movie
need a based Robespierre movie

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


the more i stew with it the more napoleon feels like a weird rear end movie. its like someone assembled the world's best costume department, sound designers, set designers, cinematographers, and gave them an unlimited budget and one hundred thousand extras lovingly dressed, and let a twelve year old write and direct

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Justin Tyme posted:

the more i stew with it the more napoleon feels like a weird rear end movie. its like someone assembled the world's best costume department, sound designers, set designers, cinematographers, and gave them an unlimited budget and one hundred thousand extras lovingly dressed, and let a twelve year old write and direct

A senile old man, but yes.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Samuel Glompers posted:

As far as I know the trinkets they got from conquest were not bullshit and in fact made his men wealthy

NO WRONG Napoleon was a Peepee Doodoo Fartclown and he was only elected as Emperor because France is dumb

Please think about how many lives were needlessly lost for his ambition!

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

indigi posted:

I don't think Aang ever earnestly tries to justify his stance in a philosophically rigorous way, and honestly all the previous avatars deal with his dilemma in the absolute dumbest way imaginable. his entire people and culture have been destroyed and death is scary to him, a child. he just doesn't want to execute someone. like, read the loving room, o wise spirit.

e: like no wonder he doesn't want to take Kyoshi's advice, she comes off as a bloodthirsty berserker who has a lot more in common with Ozai than himself. and Roku is just a blundering idiot. my man has no helpful role models except a giant turtle

the whole idea of an avatar is fairly reactionary really youve basically got this person annointed and trained to be the worlds immortal god king whose personality is deliberately tailored to be whatever the spirits think is most likely to be able to maintain the status quo and its probably not coincidental that there appears to have been more technological advancement after a century of no avatar and a half century of an untrained avatar than there was in all recorded history put together up until that point

none of this really matters to atla since its about the immediate crisis and not the larger philosophical questions which makes it kind of comparable to early harry potter wait um sorry thats a really unfair comparison lets put it this way if harry potter is lib catnip then atla is socialist catnip

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Some Guy TT posted:

the whole idea of an avatar is fairly reactionary really youve basically got this person annointed and trained to be the worlds immortal god king whose personality is deliberately tailored to be whatever the spirits think is most likely to be able to maintain the status quo and its probably not coincidental that there appears to have been more technological advancement after a century of no avatar and a half century of an untrained avatar than there was in all recorded history put together up until that point

none of this really matters to atla since its about the immediate crisis and not the larger philosophical questions which makes it kind of comparable to early harry potter wait um sorry thats a really unfair comparison lets put it this way if harry potter is lib catnip then atla is socialist catnip

I think a good deal of that comes from Joseph Campbell's "Hero With A Thousand Faces" having a lot of influence over Hollywood writing. Campbell, as it turns out, was a racist reactionary who thought the Nazis had a lot of great ideas actually

https://medium.com/belover/joseph-campbell-was-a-right-wing-racist-and-anti-semite-eeb13d07515e

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
That explains so much.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Wikipedia posted:

Britain ended the uneasy truce created by the Treaty of Amiens when it declared war on France in May 1803. The British were increasingly angered by Napoleon's re-ordering of the international system in Western Europe, especially in Switzerland, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands. Frederick Kagan argues that Britain was irritated in particular by Napoleon's assertion of control over Switzerland. Furthermore, Britons felt insulted when Napoleon stated that their country deserved no voice in European affairs, even though King George III was an elector of the Holy Roman Empire. For its part, Russia decided that the intervention in Switzerland indicated that Napoleon was not looking toward a peaceful resolution of his differences with the other European powers.[36] Britain was labouring under a sense of loss of control, as well as loss of markets, and was worried by Napoleon's possible threat to its overseas colonies. Frank McLynn argues that Britain went to war in 1803 out of a "mixture of economic motives and national neuroses – an irrational anxiety about Napoleon's motives and intentions." However, it proved to be the right choice for Britain, because in the long run Napoleon's intentions were hostile to British national interests. Furthermore, Napoleon was not ready for war, and it was the best time for Britain to try to stop him.[37] Britain therefore seized upon the Malta issue by refusing to follow the terms of the Treaty of Amiens that required its evacuation of the island.

Schroeder says that most historians agree that Napoleon's "determination to exclude Britain from the Continent now, and bring it to its knees in the future, made war...inevitable."[38] The British government balked at implementing certain terms of the treaty, such as evacuating their naval presence from Malta. After the initial fervour, objections to the treaty quickly grew in Britain, where it seemed to the governing class that they were making all the concessions and ratifying recent developments. Prime Minister Addington did not undertake military demobilisation, but maintained a large peacetime army of 180,000.[39]

Actions taken by Bonaparte after the treaty was signed heightened tensions with Britain and signatories to the other treaties. He used the time of peace to consolidate power and reorganise domestic administration in France and some of its client states. His effective annexation of the Cisalpine Republic and his decision to send French troops into the Helvetian Republic (Switzerland) in October 1802, was another violation of Lunéville. However, Britain had not signed the Treaty of Lunéville, and the powers that had signed it tolerated Napoleon's actions. Tsar Alexander had just congratulated Bonaparte for withdrawing from there and other places, but the Swiss move increased the belief in his cabinet that Bonaparte was not to be trusted. Bonaparte met British protests over the action with belligerent statements, again denying Britain's right to be formally involved in matters on the continent and pointing out that Switzerland had been occupied by French troops when the treaty was signed.[40] He also demanded for the British government to censor the strongly anti-French British press and to expel French expatriates from British soil. Those demands were perceived in London as affronts to British sovereignty.[41]

Bonaparte also took advantage of the loosening of the British blockade of French ports to organise and dispatch a naval expedition to regain control over revolutionary Haiti and to occupy French Louisiana. Those moves were perceived by the British as a willingness by Bonaparte to threaten them on a global stage.[41]

Britain refused to remove troops from Egypt or Malta, as agreed upon in the treaty.[42] Bonaparte formally protested the continuing British occupations and, in January 1803, published a report by Horace Sebastiani that included observations on the ease with which France might capture Egypt, alarming most of the European powers.[42][43] In an interview in February 1803 with Lord Whitworth, Britain's French ambassador, Bonaparte threatened war if Malta was not evacuated and implied that he could have already retaken Egypt.[44] The exchange left Whitworth feeling he was given an ultimatum. In a public meeting with a group of diplomats the following month, Bonaparte again pressed Whitworth, implying that the British wanted war since they were not upholding their treaty obligations.[44] The Russian ambassador, Arkadiy Ivanovich Morkov, reported the encounter back to St. Petersburg in stark terms. The implicit and explicit threats contained in the exchange may have played a role in Russia's eventual entry into the Third Coalition.[45] Morkov also reported rumours that Bonaparte would seize Hamburg as well as Hanover if war was renewed.[46] Although Alexander wanted to avoid war, that news apparently forced his hand; he began collecting troops on the Baltic coast in late March.[47] The Russian foreign minister wrote of the situation, "The intention already expressed by the First Consul of striking blows against England wherever he can, and under this pretext of sending his troops into Hanover [and] Northern Germany ... entirely transforms the nature of this war as it relates to our interests and obligations."[48]

When France moved to occupy Switzerland, the British had issued orders for their military not to return Cape Colony to the Dutch, as stipulated in the Treaty of Amiens, only to countermand them when the Swiss failed to resist. In March 1803, the British ministry received notice that Cape Colony had been reoccupied by the military, and it promptly ordered military preparations to guard against possible French retaliation for the breach of the treaty. They falsely claimed that hostile French preparations had forced them into that action and that they were engaged in serious negotiations. To cover up their deception, the ministry issued a sudden ultimatum to France, demanding an evacuation of Holland and Switzerland and British control of Malta for ten years.[49] The exchange prompted an exodus of foreigners from France, and Bonaparte quickly sold Louisiana to the United States to prevent its capture by Britain. Bonaparte made "every concession that could be considered as demanded or even imposed by the British government" by offering to guarantee the integrity of the Ottoman Empire, place Malta in the hands of a neutral third party and form a convention to satisfy Britain on other issues.[50] His rejection of a British offer involving a ten-year lease of Malta prompted the reactivation of the British blockade of the French coast. Bonaparte, who was not fully prepared to resume the war, made moves designed to show renewed preparations for an invasion of Britain.[51] Matters reached a diplomatic crisis point when the British rejected the idea of mediation by Tsar Alexander and, on 10 May, ordered Whitworth to withdraw from Paris if the French did not accede to their demands in 36 hours.[52] Last-minute attempts at negotiation by Talleyrand failed, and Whitworth left France on 13 May. Britain declared war on France on 18 May, thus starting the Napoleonic Wars, which would rage in Europe for the following 12 years.[53]

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Rest assured, none of that poo poo is in Napoleon. Napoleon just fights everybody because he's a crazy guy who is crazy.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Guys he lost thats not propaganda

You should stick to arguing about children's cartoons

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