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The Top G posted:Doing that with a female end is looking like the best option. I’d need 12/3 though for the ground, I believe i must be reading this wrong. You're not talking about putting a female 'standard' cord end on the tool and running a hot male end around, are you? like this?  because i know you couldn't possibly be talking about doing that.
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thats a bad idea but male to male cords do have a legitimate use case and thats plugging a generator into an outlet during a power outage AFTER YOU HAVE TURNED OFF YOUR PANEL'S MAIN BREAKER so that you have can run your fridge and have be able to charge phones. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 25, 2023 21:17
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My Spirit Otter posted:thats a bad idea but male to male cords do have a legitimate use case and thats plugging a generator into an outlet during a power outage AFTER YOU HAVE TURNED OFF YOUR PANEL'S MAIN BREAKER so that you have can run your fridge and have be able to charge phones. Incorrect
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Nov 25, 2023 21:19
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My Spirit Otter posted:thats a bad idea but male to male cords do have a legitimate use case and thats plugging a generator into an outlet during a power outage AFTER YOU HAVE TURNED OFF YOUR PANEL'S MAIN BREAKER so that you have can run your fridge and have be able to charge phones. That is not actually a proper use for them either. Do not do this. The only proper use is when you put up xmas lights and start with the wrong end...
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Nov 25, 2023 21:46
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its 100% safe. unless youre running an industrial generator, its only going to have 15a outlets so you wont be tripping breakers, and if youve switched off the panel’s main breaker, you can’t backfeed into the system. once you see your neighbours power return, you turn off the generator, unplug the cord, then turn on the main breaker.
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My Spirit Otter posted:thats a bad idea but male to male cords do have a legitimate use case and thats plugging a generator into an outlet during a power outage AFTER YOU HAVE TURNED OFF YOUR PANEL'S MAIN BREAKER so that you have can run your fridge and have be able to charge phones. Wrong. It's never safe. You should never do this, and even if you do you should never be suggesting it. My Spirit Otter posted:its 100% safe. unless youre running an industrial generator, its only going to have 15a outlets so you wont be tripping breakers, and if youve switched off the panel’s main breaker, you can’t backfeed into the system. Wrong. It's not safe. It's not to code for a reason. Code is written in blood so guess what that reason is. If you need to connect a portable backup generator on your house a lockout kit and an inlet is not expensive. Stop scumbagging it and stop suggesting others do this. Signed, - someone who has had to clean up after this kind of poo poo before.
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My Spirit Otter posted:its 100% safe. unless youre running an industrial generator, its only going to have 15a outlets so you wont be tripping breakers, and if youve switched off the panel’s main breaker, you can’t backfeed into the system. Everyone please do not do this.
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My Spirit Otter posted:its 100% safe. unless youre running an industrial generator, its only going to have 15a outlets so you wont be tripping breakers, and if youve switched off the panel’s main breaker, you can’t backfeed into the system.
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The worst part about that advice is that if you are capable of mentally walking through that whole process correctly, and can make the cable "correctly", you also have the ability and knowledge needed to put in a proper generator interlock and do it right.
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IOwnCalculus posted:The worst part about that advice is that if you are capable of mentally walking through that whole process correctly, and can make the cable "correctly", you also have the ability and knowledge needed to put in a proper generator interlock and do it right. Or run an extension from the fridge directly to the generator.
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This is one of those things where if you have the knowledge and life scenario to do it "safely," you should also have the wisdom to know you can never do it safely.
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My Spirit Otter posted:its 100% safe. unless youre running an industrial generator, its only going to have 15a outlets so you wont be tripping breakers, and if youve switched off the panel’s main breaker, you can’t backfeed into the system. Please for the love of god people reading this thread do not do this. You should probably shut the gently caress up about this. Get the proper manual transfer switch and gen inlet, or just plug your poo poo into the generator via properly rated extension cords with the gen outside. Do not just plug your generator into a circuit with the breaker disabled, there is a reason that this isn't code and why you don't find it recommended anywhere that an electrician is present. You'll also only power about half your circuits, since you decided to only provide one leg of the 120-0-120 legs your panel needs. stealie72 posted:This is one of those things where if you have the knowledge and life scenario to do it "safely," you should also have the wisdom to know you can never do it safely. It is exactly that. He's sitting on mount stupid with just enough knowledge to burn down their house in a way done hundreds of times before. Bondematt fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Nov 25, 2023 |
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My name is Spirit Otter, Dunce of Dunces. Look yee upon my stupid and despair!
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I'm rediscovering minimalist woodworking, but from an informed perspective. Got all my tools in the basement but I'm setting up the unattached garage as a shop. I'm having fun making due with my track saw, some sawhorses, and a bit of creative thinking. The basement has become a dumping ground for all sorts of poo poo due to some unfortunate circumstances so I'm back in the game, baby!
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Bondematt posted:It is exactly that. He's sitting on mount stupid with just enough knowledge to burn down their house in a way done hundreds of times before. Also shout out to my city college instructors for emphasizing not just safety, but also telling your boss "gently caress you" if they try to put you in a dangerous situation, and going over stories about how many electrical workers try to be "superman" and die horrible and painful deaths. They were really going out of their way to try to reverse that whole culture in the trades.
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Deviant posted:i must be reading this wrong. You're not talking about putting a female 'standard' cord end on the tool and running a hot male end around, are you? Huh? No, that’s kinda funny to imagine but impractical and dangerous. I had meant wiring 12/3 cord to the saw and wiring a female plug connector on the other end. Ultimately I found this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3138605762...2.c101506.m1851 Which is likely about the same cost or less than buying cord & connector so all’s well that ends well
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That Works posted:Or run an extension from the fridge directly to the generator. Having a couple of 80' 10/2 cords left over from my construction days, this is my preferred method.👍 Pigtail to Fridge, lights, Internet- goonspeed!
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The Top G posted:Huh? No, that’s kinda funny to imagine but impractical and dangerous. I had meant wiring 12/3 cord to the saw and wiring a female plug connector on the other end. Right but if you have a female connector on the end of your saw, how are you going to plug it in?
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Danhenge posted:Right but if you have a female connector on the end of your saw, how are you going to plug it in? Very Carefully
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Danhenge posted:Right but if you have a female connector on the end of your saw, how are you going to plug it in? with the appropriate amount of compliments and foreplay. EDIT: and consent! MRC48B fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Nov 26, 2023 |
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oh i walked away but there is a reason that thing is called a 'suicide cable' making a cable with a hot male end (heyo!) is incredibly stupid and no one will help you do it. but it sounds like we're not doing that? Deviant fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Nov 26, 2023 |
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My Spirit Otter posted:its 100% safe. Not even a little bit. See you in 6hrs.
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Rockler catalog came in the mail; now I want all the things.
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First project in my semi functional garage shop: a clamp rack. It's proceeding well. I settled on a mobile stand now that I have space. 
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Why bother with a clamp rack when you can just clamp your clamps to things and they hold themselves?
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Upside to an unfinished basement is that ground floor joists can hold so many clamps
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wesleywillis posted:Why bother with a clamp rack when you can just clamp your clamps to things and they hold themselves? Please don't doxx my workshop
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Cannon_Fodder posted:First project in my semi functional garage shop: a clamp rack. It's proceeding well. I settled on a mobile stand now that I have space. Mobile clamp cart/rack is the best cost:benefit of anything I have built for my shop.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Mobile clamp cart/rack is the best cost:benefit of anything I have built for my shop. Pretty hyped. I'll also use it for holding vacuum hoses and adapters. I'm trying to figure out how to get more power to my garage, 2 space heaters and lights and the circuit trips. Luckily most of my tools in there are battery.
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I saw the suicide cord post and I had a question about a half-memory you all might be able to help with. I seem to vaguely recall there used to be a use for cables with male-to-male Edison plugs for stage lighting, but I can't remember if I'm misremembering something. Am I just mixed up or is/was this a thing?
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Mobile clamp cart/rack is the best cost:benefit of anything I have built for my shop. I'd love to do this, i just really don't think i can afford the space. So I clamp my clamps to a ceiling joist (low ceilings, basement shop) and it works ok, it's just slow to get them down and put them back up since i have to loosen/tighten them.
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50% off many things at DTO for Cyber Monday. Shipping is $15. Once again, that oil-free polesaw + baby chainsaw kit I won't shut the gently caress up about? $115 + $15 shipping. https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/product/P20310 My usual blurb on that: Two goons asked me to ping them on this. Yes, it is Oil-free. A chainsaw you don't have to oil! What foul magic is this? According to the sales rep in this video, Ryobi did some testing on solving the oil leaking problem, and they found if a chainsaw is running a chain slower than 5 meters/sec, then it doesn't need oil. That's why they don't quote:have any big oil-free chainsaws, but these little guys. Anyhow, I yoinked one around Black Friday and used it on a tree and it worked fine. I think the chain came loose at a certain point, but otherwise it had no issues, cut just fine. Then I got hella sick and haven't used it since. Comes with battery and charger; the 1.5Ah is plenty of battery to deal with a few trees. So if you want a pole saw that's not going to leak oil and you can just toss it in your garage/tool closet when you're done, then get this. It doesn't come with a bag and the blade scabbard on it is poo poo. I turned to Amazon: Everyone might want to dig on DTO and post tools that are on a good sale. https://darn.tools is good reference for sanity checking prices. I don't see the usual go-to recommended fans, either the clip on or the other kind. They do have the bucket top misting fan kit for $45: https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/product/PCL851K And the "misting cannon" for $90? https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/product/PCL850K1 BeAuMaN fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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BeAuMaN posted:50% off many things at DTO for Cyber Monday. Shipping is $15. Today is not that day. 6 percent off. Thanks for the heads up otherwise though!
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Slugworth posted:Constantly mystified as to why there's never a good DTO online deal for airless 16g finish nailers. It'll happen someday, I just know it. I have to assume that they make a lot fewer of them because weekend warriors such as myself are less likely to buy them. So they don't have the volume for sales.
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Anyone know offhand if Lowe's sells grade 8 (or whatever the metric equivalent is) hardware? Specifically Lowe's because I'm right near one and can buy poo poo individually. Canadian tire and home Depot don't. I can go to brafasco or a place like that if I have to, but they usually have a minimum order. I need 4 bolts and one nut, so don't want to buy a bag of 25 each if I don't have to.
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wesleywillis posted:Anyone know offhand if Lowe's sells grade 8 (or whatever the metric equivalent is) hardware? Maybe the home depot by you doesn't, but mine has grade 8 bolts in various sizes available. Not a wide selection or high quantity but it's there. As does lowes. I bet they're in the drawers-o-fasteners if you missed them.
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Thanks, I'll take a look. None of the HDs around here have grade 8 stuff. Only grade 5 and 2. I've scoured the poo poo out of them..
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wesleywillis posted:Thanks, I'll take a look. None of the HDs around here have grade 8 stuff. Only grade 5 and 2. Or I should say - both of their websites claim they do, I haven't actually gone to look in ages.
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Other stuff from the DTO sale: The EZClean power-washer thing; this is the 600 psi model, and it's the lowest historical price according to darn.tools at $75 (includes 4AH battery): https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/product/RY121852KVNM There's a bunch of accessories to be had if you search "ezclean" Bug Zapper for $45  https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com/product/P29014BTLVNM Slugworth posted:Constantly mystified as to why there's never a good DTO online deal for airless 16g finish nailers. It'll happen someday, I just know it. darn.tools says it has gone on sale, at least earlier this year: https://darn.tools/products.html?modelNumber=P326 Why they chose to exempt it from this sale? 
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wesleywillis posted:Anyone know offhand if Lowe's sells grade 8 (or whatever the metric equivalent is) hardware? I never have the luck I'm looking for at home depot or lowes when it comes to specialty fasteners. Ace hardware/local hardware stores are always the key for success in my experience as they have every type of fastener in various sizes, finishes and strengths.
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