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4 | 7.84% |
| Hook/OC/Shibata vs ExJAS |
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| Rush vs Jay |
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31 | 60.78% |
| Anna vs Ruby vs Skye |
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2 | 3.92% |
| Mark vs Mox |
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13 | 25.49% |
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AEW survived a pandemic as a much smaller and less prestigious company, if anybody seriously thinks they're dying just because somebody looked at TV sideways then I highly suggest you take some time off of online wrestling discussion and just enjoy the show on its own merits. I cannot stress enough how much more fun a show can be when you're not also microanalyzing how many people are attending the show, what the live viewership numbers are, and whether a thing is sports, entertainment, or sports entertainment.
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Nov 27, 2023 19:48
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Waffleopolis posted:My ideas to improve AEW: Yes to all of these, I would even hot shot the belt to Swerve at this point. You want to make a statement and get some buzz on your product with a guy who's super hot and dangerous looking? Have Swerve just kill MJF like the night after World's End. Say something like "oh he's super injured from Joe, BFF Adam can't be here," maybe the devil or Wardlow beats him up in the back, whatever. Regardless, get the belt off Max and onto Swerve, he's super over, you get your first black world champion, and you have something interesting and fresh going into the new year. I feel we're going to trudge through the MJF mud for another 9 months until Ospreay beats him at Wembley. We don't need to do this, Tony. The MJF stuff is so old and tired and is doing nothing to help the product. A Fancy Hat posted:AEW survived a pandemic as a much smaller and less prestigious company, if anybody seriously thinks they're dying just because somebody looked at TV sideways then I highly suggest you take some time off of online wrestling discussion and just enjoy the show on its own merits. I cannot stress enough how much more fun a show can be when you're not also microanalyzing how many people are attending the show, what the live viewership numbers are, and whether a thing is sports, entertainment, or sports entertainment. The only way AEW dies is if Tony gets bored and doesn't want to do it anymore. If TNA and NWA survived this long, AEW is fine. It's not dying, but it's very cold right now and it probably doesn't help that Punk is about to go out on Raw tonight and bury them for like 10 minutes straight. They could really use some kind of a shakeup. Fish Of Doom fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Nov 27, 2023 |
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Nov 27, 2023 19:49
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pressedbunny posted:I just want people to stop watching TVs backstage at weird angles Young Bucks are still the only ones who know how to properly watch the TV https://twitter.com/youngbucks/status/1314032995700006913
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Nov 27, 2023 19:52
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A Fancy Hat posted:AEW survived a pandemic as a much smaller and less prestigious company, if anybody seriously thinks they're dying just because somebody looked at TV sideways then I highly suggest you take some time off of online wrestling discussion and just enjoy the show on its own merits. I cannot stress enough how much more fun a show can be when you're not also microanalyzing how many people are attending the show, what the live viewership numbers are, and whether a thing is sports, entertainment, or sports entertainment. This is cope, real fans obsessively analyze everything and if you don't or stop you're less of a person, possibly less of a human
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Nov 27, 2023 19:53
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Gumball Gumption posted:This is cope, real fans obsessively analyze everything and if you don't or stop you're less of a person, possibly less of a human My favorite part of my live show Saturday was counting every person in attendance at the show. I meticulously went aisle by aisle and handed out a questionnaire asking them if they thought MJF was cringe or based.
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Nov 27, 2023 19:55
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A Fancy Hat posted:AEW survived a pandemic as a much smaller and less prestigious company, if anybody seriously thinks they're dying just because somebody looked at TV sideways then I highly suggest you take some time off of online wrestling discussion and just enjoy the show on its own merits. I cannot stress enough how much more fun a show can be when you're not also microanalyzing how many people are attending the show, what the live viewership numbers are, and whether a thing is sports, entertainment, or sports entertainment. yeah lmao If you start to find yourself more interested or invested in discussing wrestling to the point that it drowns out the enjoyment of the actual artform, especially in a world where there's so much wrestling out there, past and present, it's time to talk about wrestling less and watch wrestling more.
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Nov 27, 2023 19:56
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A Fancy Hat posted:AEW survived a pandemic as a much smaller and less prestigious company, if anybody seriously thinks they're dying just because somebody looked at TV sideways then I highly suggest you take some time off of online wrestling discussion and just enjoy the show on its own merits. I cannot stress enough how much more fun a show can be when you're not also microanalyzing how many people are attending the show, what the live viewership numbers are, and whether a thing is sports, entertainment, or sports entertainment. 100%. The ratings stuff is incredibly boring to me. I just want to watch great pro-wrestling and AEW does that for me like nothing else has since the 90's or rewatching old AJPW or NJPW stuff. Now if ONLY Tony can close a deal to get streaming & archive rights 
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Nov 27, 2023 19:57
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Weird to insinuate that the only way to feel negative about AEW is because you read attendance numbers.
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Nov 27, 2023 19:59
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yea ok posted:Weird to insinuate that the only way to feel negative about AEW is because you read attendance numbers. “Death spiral” implies it’s going out of business. That’s what I’m addressing, people who literally think AEW is going out of business.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:04
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I think AEW could do some things to be better. I also think AEW does many more things I really like.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:05
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A Fancy Hat posted:“Death spiral” implies it’s going out of business. That’s what I’m addressing, people who literally think AEW is going out of business. They're a privately owned company owned by a billionaire, nobody thinks they're literally going out of business. People are using "Death spiral" in reference to their popularity and engagement, ie "the product/company is cold as gently caress"
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Nov 27, 2023 20:06
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yea ok posted:Normalize 👏 Fatasses 👏 In 👏 Wrestling 👏 been saying this. I want fat strong dudes like Vader and Earthquake.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:09
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blunt posted:They're a privately owned company owned by a billionaire, nobody thinks they're literally going out of business. It's only cold as gently caress if you're too deep in the discourse. Attendance is actually up this quarter.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:10
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Jiro posted:I fail to see how a dude who wanted to and tried to take a swing at the company's owner no longer being in AEW is bad for AEW. Punk went back to the place he can be his most toxic, and it's normal because that's obviously what he wants not really what he needs to be a better person. I get it from a "Tony should have managed the situation and personalities better" perspective but "we hired the guy who was so much of an rear end in a top hat that he needed to be on a shorter leash" doesn't seem like a huge win. A lot of it is probably just WWE and their stans controlling the narrative though.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:11
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A Fancy Hat posted:My favorite part of my live show Saturday was counting every person in attendance at the show. I meticulously went aisle by aisle and handed out a questionnaire asking them if they thought MJF was cringe or based. cant have been worse then reading posts here
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Nov 27, 2023 20:11
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yea ok posted:Weird to insinuate that the only way to feel negative about AEW is because you read attendance numbers.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:15
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Pylons posted:It's only cold as gently caress if you're too deep in the discourse. Attendance is actually up this quarter. Pity the tv has sucked!!!!
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Nov 27, 2023 20:16
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It could be a brain tumor too, often been insinuated that's why I like AEW so I'm sure it's why "some" "folks" don't like it
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Nov 27, 2023 20:17
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I don't know which of the two threads this should go to, so it's going to both.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:18
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Pylons posted:It's only cold as gently caress if you're too deep in the discourse. Attendance is actually up this quarter. Dynamite's ratings are fine, the other shows seem to be where WBD expected per reports, PPVs are doing great but the company definitely feels cooler and could use some minor course corrections, which seem to be happening. Right now I just need some tweaks to MJF and the Joe feud might do it. I don't expect the Toni Storm stuff to change, I guess people like it?
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Nov 27, 2023 20:20
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A Fancy Hat posted:people who literally think AEW is going out of business. I would be shocked if anyone on this board actually thinks that is happening. The only people who literally think that are weird twitter WWE stans. Pylons posted:It's only cold as gently caress if you're too deep in the discourse. Attendance is actually up this quarter. Eh, regardless of ratings or tickets or whatever, the show is just way less interesting right now. A year ago I was excited to watch AEW, now I find myself fast forwarding most of it except the one or two matches/segments that I'm interested in. There's just too many bad segments/squash matches/stuff that you know is inconsequential and doesn't matter.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:20
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:I don't know which of the two threads this should go to, so it's going to both. Good effort, though the dialogue balloons need to be flipped around and the top one says "WWE" instead of "AEW" 
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Nov 27, 2023 20:21
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Fish Of Doom posted:
Okay, but we're talking about engagement/popularity, not how you, the individual poster, feels about the show.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:22
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rotinaj posted:I am partway there with you but I also want a yokozuna or earthquake if keith lee didn't get covid he would be AEW champion right now.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:22
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Pylons posted:Okay, but we're talking about engagement/popularity, not how you, the individual poster, feels about the show. I'm not the only person down on the show right now, homie
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Nov 27, 2023 20:22
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Drakkel posted:Honestly AEW just does way too much WWE poo poo now and some of it I can stomach cause the wrestling is good but that's pretty much all it has now and it honestly just makes me depressed watching it at this point cause it feels like it's in a death spiral and if it does go away that's basically me done watching wrestling ever again. I will watch an AEW show and feel like it was really great and I had a good time. Then I go online and read from a lot of folks that it's dead or dying and honestly my solution is to stop reading as much stuff online. When I just interact with the show I enjoy it way more.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:22
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Fish Of Doom posted:I'm not the only person down on the show right now, homie No poo poo. My point is that the actual figures don't back up how you or others personally feel.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:23
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Nea posted:if keith lee didn't get covid he would be AEW champion right now. It's so drat sad. I'm glad he's still around because he's still charismatic as hell but... 
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Nov 27, 2023 20:24
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Pylons posted:No poo poo. My point is that the actual figures don't back up how you or others personally feel. Sounds like you're too deep in the figures and discourse. Take a step back.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:25
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Nea posted:if keith lee didn't get covid he would be AEW champion right now. Don’t remind me, one of the best moments of my AEW fandom was seeing Keith Lee come over I had such high hopes, keith lee was my favorite dude not in aew at the time. I love big stout dudes of gravity who can go, s’moe joe was my favorite wrestler during his roh title run And then 
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Nov 27, 2023 20:25
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Pylons posted:No poo poo. My point is that the actual figures don't back up how you or others personally feel. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Tony.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:30
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:I don't know which of the two threads this should go to, so it's going to both. I was waiting for this to pop back up 
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Nov 27, 2023 20:33
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AEW fans are dumb bitches and the haters are brain damaged losers imo honestly to be clear
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Nov 27, 2023 20:35
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Fightful Select thing came out. Nothing crazy. Tony is more worried about Shibata than Punk which makes sense. AEW morale is low, some think the debut makes them look second rate, bla bla bla. Some in WWE very upset, "tepid" reaction similar to his return for Collision.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:35
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Gumball Gumption posted:AEW fans are dumb bitches and the haters are brain damaged losers imo honestly to be clear If they're girls we call them Cootie Face, if they're boys we call them Bucket Head
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Nov 27, 2023 20:36
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yea ok posted:Fightful Select thing came out. Nothing crazy. Tony is more worried about Shibata than Punk which makes sense. AEW morale is low, some think the debut makes them look second rate, bla bla bla. Some in WWE very upset, "tepid" reaction similar to his return for Collision. Any details on exactly what is going on with Shibata? Is it a visa thing? Personal?
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Nov 27, 2023 20:40
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yea ok posted:Fightful Select thing came out. Nothing crazy. Tony is more worried about Shibata than Punk which makes sense. AEW morale is low, some think the debut makes them look second rate, bla bla bla. Some in WWE very upset, "tepid" reaction similar to his return for Collision. quote:We’ve continued to gather more information on CM Punk’s return to WWE.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:40
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Shard posted:Any details on exactly what is going on with Shibata? Is it a visa thing? Personal? No idea
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Nov 27, 2023 20:42
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Curious to know why some in AEW think Punk's return to WWE makes AEW look second rate
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I think the Shibata concerns are just the beat down by Yuta to write him off since he's taking some time to go back to Japan, no reported reason as to why beyond "needs to go back suddenly for a while". I think it's mostly in this story as a way to say Tony doesn't care about Punk.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:47
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