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I do find it fascinating how useful rb screens can be and how awful wr screens tend to be, at the nfl level. Yet some coaches just refuse to let it go.
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Nov 27, 2023 18:43
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trevorreznik posted:QB draw out of shotgun seemed to stop working around the time McNair and Culpepper got old, it's weird to still see it. Worked OK on that final play vs Buffalo last night 
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Nov 27, 2023 18:57
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I do find it fascinating how useful rb screens can be and how awful wr screens tend to be, at the nfl level. Yet some coaches just refuse to let it go. If you can't throw it downfield, there's very few plays that can open up the middle of the field at all for the running game, and screens are it basically. You need those to slow down the safeties and linebackers by at least a step, even if they're going to be wasted plays most of the time.
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Nov 27, 2023 19:17
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Zurreco posted:Imagine rooting for the Chargers. I’m both because I like pain
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Nov 27, 2023 19:50
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indigi posted:2) teams lining up in shotgun on 3rd or 4th and 1. you're limiting your options completely unnecessarily coming out in shotgun. and even worse, coaches will call designed QB runs out of this look. I hate it so much and love it when teams fail to convert. This pisses me off so much, we really need an Offensive Incompetence thread just to highlight these terrible plays
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Nov 27, 2023 19:54
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indigi posted:2) teams lining up in shotgun on 3rd or 4th and 1. you're limiting your options completely unnecessarily coming out in shotgun. and even worse, coaches will call designed QB runs out of this look. I hate it so much and love it when teams fail to convert. This and QB's staring down receivers is my biggest complaint this season. Whatever happened to looking off defensive backs to open up more passing lanes?
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Nov 27, 2023 19:56
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Coaches on all levels seem to really love screens way out of proportion to their effectiveness, but it's especially bad in the NFL outside of one or two teams who can get it to work somehow I think it's because it's just a really prescriptive, controlled play where players basically have to do what the coach wants them to
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Nov 27, 2023 19:59
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joe football posted:Coaches on all levels seem to really love screens way out of proportion to their effectiveness, but it's especially bad in the NFL outside of one or two teams who can get it to work somehow I think it's more that when the pass rush is really killing you, you have to do something. And screens are one of the few consistent options there.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:03
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WR Screens are at a disadvantage most of the time blocker-wise. There is usually one more defender than there is blockers and the ball carrier usually needs to either get lucky or make a very good move to do anything other than get tackled +- 2 yards of the line of scrimmage. Compare this to RB screens where the goal is to like trick most of the DL and any blitzers into going after the QB so the RB ends up with a wall of blockers in front of him against a smaller number of defenders. Basically the WR only makes sense to either keep the defense from sending too many guys inside or if the defense is in some kind of weird alignment.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:08
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Kalli posted:If you can't throw it downfield, there's very few plays that can open up the middle of the field at all for the running game, and screens are it basically. You need those to slow down the safeties and linebackers by at least a step, even if they're going to be wasted plays most of the time. This is it. It's like how Shanahan will call a loser run up the middle 5 times in a game just to set up the screen that goes 50 yards. The Ravens passing game is at its best attacking the middle of the field and they need to manufacture space somehow to get it moving smoothly.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:16
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The Puppy Bowl posted:This is it. It's like how Shanahan will call a loser run up the middle 5 times in a game just to set up the screen that goes 50 yards. As bad as WR screens are, they're at least better then Jet sweep motions. My god do I hate a bad jet sweep motion
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Yeah I'm not sure the last time I saw a jet sweep work. Every time I see one I'm just happy if we don't fumble or lose more than a few yards.
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https://twitter.com/YahooFantasy/status/1728992776153686161?t=3PJM6gOaF-r2-udAgP4Vcg&s=19 Jet sweep is okay when done right.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:https://twitter.com/YahooFantasy/status/1728992776153686161?t=3PJM6gOaF-r2-udAgP4Vcg&s=19 Unlike the moralistic prude Patrick Mahomes, Zay Flowers had love for the degenerates who needed Baltimore to cover
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The Puppy Bowl posted:https://twitter.com/YahooFantasy/status/1728992776153686161?t=3PJM6gOaF-r2-udAgP4Vcg&s=19 He had two TD celebrations lined up and drat if he wasn’t gonna get to both of them
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Nov 27, 2023 21:36
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absolutely nothing better than a well-timed corner blitz https://twitter.com/blaiden/status/1728993018152358398#m
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AndrewP posted:absolutely nothing better than a well-timed corner blitz Somehow this is Herbert's fault. After calling out the correct protection. Having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. Where no WRs turned around. While Ekeler ignored him and stayed on the right side.
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a neat cape posted:Somehow this is Herbert's fault. After calling out the correct protection. Having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. Where no WRs turned around. While Ekeler ignored him and stayed on the right side. Herbert just isn't clutch
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a neat cape posted:Somehow this is Herbert's fault. After calling out the correct protection. Having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. Where no WRs turned around. While Ekeler ignored him and stayed on the right side. Sounds like a leadership problem
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As an aside I really like the dark lightning bolt logo at midfield
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Black Lighter posted:I think it's more that when the pass rush is really killing you, you have to do something. And screens are one of the few consistent options there. Line up in I-formation and run power away from the blitz. Just like the Founding Fathers intended.
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a neat cape posted:Somehow this is Herbert's fault. After calling out the correct protection. Having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. Where no WRs turned around. While Ekeler ignored him and stayed on the right side. It’d atrocious by the coaching staff. How you don’t see that coming and adjust your playcall with something that gives him somewhere to go. Nobody is even close to looking his way - what can he do?!?
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Midnightghoul posted:Sounds like a leadership problem kinda yeah, leaders get their followers to listen
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indigi posted:kinda yeah, leaders get their followers to listen mad props to Jim Jones and his leadership skills
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hey the Jonestown basketball team all made it
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Been playing around with the playoff machine and after this week, there's no realistic path to the playoffs for Buffalo. Their most realistic path left is to win the division by winning one more game than the Dolphins down the stretch and then beating the Dolphins in Miami in Week 17. There are some other paths but they are very convoluted and require a lot of other teams in the hunt to lose games they are probably going to win. The Bills need a lot of help now and the odds look really bad for them to get it.
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Black Sunshine posted:mad props to Jim Jones and his leadership skills Even after firing someone on the airstrip, the whole team went out with a
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a neat cape posted:Somehow this is Herbert's fault. After calling out the correct protection. Having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. Where no WRs turned around. While Ekeler ignored him and stayed on the right side. So you're saying it's the fault of literally all 10 other players? He called the correct protection and told the receivers what to do, but literally none of them did it correctly? Or is it more likely that he didnt do that?
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Vengarr posted:Line up in I-formation and run power away from the blitz. Just like the Founding Fathers intended. Unfortunately, you need to roster a fullback in order to do that and too many cowards are afraid to do so
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Watching this footwork Bryce is about 2/3rds of the way to a Mac Jones https://twitter.com/WinksTape/status/1729193757168574909
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qb derangement syndrome is spreading. just kidding. my qb is a real piece of poo poo made out of paper but now he's got 275 million clones of himself at his house where he lives with daltos and me in cincinnati if you know what i mean. if not then mmmmm step into mmm step into my office lol.
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Kalli posted:Watching this footwork Bryce is about 2/3rds of the way to a Mac Jones Like, in addition to the bad footwork and terrible decision.
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Kalli posted:Watching this footwork Bryce is about 2/3rds of the way to a Mac Jones His footwork and dropback are just so bad. Did he do that at Bama? Why wouldn't you have tried to coach that out of him.
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Number19 posted:Been playing around with the playoff machine and after this week, there's no realistic path to the playoffs for Buffalo. Their most realistic path left is to win the division by winning one more game than the Dolphins down the stretch and then beating the Dolphins in Miami in Week 17. A bunch of underlying metrics make it seem like the Bills are actually pretty potent. Maybe they get some luck their way for the rest of the season 
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King Hong Kong posted:Even after firing someone on the airstrip, the whole team went out with a That's probably the most offensive part of everything that happened. The least you can do is give people the name brand poo poo, like what the hell.
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Kalli posted:Watching this footwork Bryce is about 2/3rds of the way to a Mac Jones His legs are so bouncy. I bet his bones are light. Like a birds. I keep watching this and imagine Bryce calling out the play in the huddle like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkcXgjU0Gh8&t=42s FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Nov 27, 2023 |
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Why not just bench him for the year, start Dalton, and rebuild him? Dude needs help.
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Number19 posted:Been playing around with the playoff machine and after this week, there's no realistic path to the playoffs for Buffalo. Their most realistic path left is to win the division by winning one more game than the Dolphins down the stretch and then beating the Dolphins in Miami in Week 17. I managed to get the Bills into the playoffs. I was trying to get the Patriots in, but didn't have any luck  . The Patriots are essentially eliminated. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/m...3~2~401547565~2 Anderson Koopa fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Nov 27, 2023 |
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