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hughesta posted:Wall of Ice was pre-TKOL, people thought it would be an EP with Twisted Words/Harry Patch
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 02:38 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 03:28 |
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hmm wall of eyes is also eight songs long…
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# ? Nov 25, 2023 04:25 |
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What is the significance of that?
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# ? Nov 25, 2023 17:20 |
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Jewmanji posted:What is the significance of that? Weirdos who weren’t satisfied with TKOL convinced themselves it was just half of the project since it “only” had 8 songs on it
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# ? Nov 25, 2023 17:51 |
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8 track albums loving rule. Remain in Light, New Order’s Low-Life…get in, make a statement, and promptly peace out.
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# ? Nov 25, 2023 17:56 |
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Freaquency posted:Weirdos who weren’t satisfied with TKOL convinced themselves it was just half of the project since it “only” had 8 songs on it "If you think this is over, then you're wrong"
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# ? Nov 25, 2023 18:52 |
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Freaquency posted:Weirdos who weren’t satisfied with TKOL convinced themselves it was just half of the project since it “only” had 8 songs on it Ok, yeah, I do remember those rumors. And so because this new album is 8 tracks.... the theory is that Thom has taken those 8 songs from the TKOL sessions that they couldn't fit onto TKOL, the TKOL b-sides, A Moon Shaped Pool, Tomorrow's Modern Boxes, Anima, or Amok and recorded a whole new album based entirely on those castoffs? *Superintended Chalmers voice* Aurora Borealis!?
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# ? Nov 25, 2023 19:09 |
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I can't imagine TKOL having more tracks, or being the first half of a double album. It just feels perfectly formed as it is.
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# ? Nov 26, 2023 00:22 |
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stev posted:I can't imagine TKOL having more tracks, or being the first half of a double album. It just feels perfectly formed as it is. Yeah I agree. The album progresses so beautifully that I can’t see trying to fit anything else in the middle, and by the time it’s done it feels like they’ve said everything that they’ve wanted to.
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# ? Nov 26, 2023 00:55 |
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The Modern Leper posted:"If you think this is over, then you're wrong" I mean, they weren’t lying. Afterwards they released four singles, a live album, and a remix album. That album had a pretty long tail of related releases.
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# ? Nov 26, 2023 01:33 |
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The post-TKOL period of singles is really underrated. I've probably listened to Staircase more than any other RH track the past few years.
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# ? Nov 26, 2023 22:25 |
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Answers Me posted:The post-TKOL period of singles is really underrated. I've probably listened to Staircase more than any other RH track the past few years. I think the From the Basement version of Daily Mail could be tighter and would've benefited from a bit more work before an official release, but Staircase is basically perfect.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 00:03 |
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Album cover reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-CaElCTBmk Also 8 tracks doesn't mean much, I imagine they had more but decided to cut a couple and replace them with Bending Hectic which originally wasn't going to be on the album, as far as I know? There's some songs they've been playing live for a while that aren't on the tracklisting so I'm sure there's plenty of b-sides laying around somewhere that may (but probably won't) be released.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 18:45 |
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Answers Me posted:The post-TKOL period of singles is really underrated. I've probably listened to Staircase more than any other RH track the past few years. I saw some list on the internet that ranked all RH songs, and The Butcher was right near the bottom. That's when I really started questioning my reality. https://www.vulture.com/2016/05/every-radiohead-song-ranked.html Yeah sorry this whole list is violence.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 19:09 |
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SUNKOS posted:Also 8 tracks doesn't mean much, I imagine they had more but decided to cut a couple and replace them with Bending Hectic which originally wasn't going to be on the album, as far as I know? There's some songs they've been playing live for a while that aren't on the tracklisting so I'm sure there's plenty of b-sides laying around somewhere that may (but probably won't) be released.
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Answers Me posted:The post-TKOL period of singles is really underrated. I've probably listened to Staircase more than any other RH track the past few years.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 18:42 |
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I think the trouble is that TKOL is so short that even a single track being mediocre can really impact the general feel of the album. There's three tracks on the album that I don't really care for, and so it doesn't really leave you with much. If you were to add in the b-sides and extra stuff like Staircase and Supercollider, suddenly those three bad tracks wouldn't have as much impact. This is essentially what happens with HTTT. I think everyone probably has 2-3 tracks on HTTT they don't care for, but because it's so long, there's still plenty to love and so its reputation remains fairly solid.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 19:09 |
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Jewmanji posted:I think the trouble is that TKOL is so short that even a single track being mediocre can really impact the general feel of the album. There's three tracks on the album that I don't really care for, and so it doesn't really leave you with much. If you were to add in the b-sides and extra stuff like Staircase and Supercollider, suddenly those three bad tracks wouldn't have as much impact. This is essentially what happens with HTTT. I think everyone probably has 2-3 tracks on HTTT they don't care for, but because it's so long, there's still plenty to love and so its reputation remains fairly solid. King of limbs is way better than HTTT though. And there’s like 6 boring songs on HTTt
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 20:20 |
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All of the songs on TKOL are bangers.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 20:21 |
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HD DAD posted:All of the songs on TKOL are bangers. Exactly. I don’t even know what songs people are supposed to not like on it.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 20:50 |
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BigFactory posted:King of limbs is way better than HTTT though. And there’s like 6 boring songs on HTTt 6!? Name them. For TKOL I’ve never really enjoyed Mr. magpie, little by little, or give up the ghost. I sense that I’m way in the minority on those first two. The only other RH song where I think I deviate further from consensus is Let Down, which I’ve never liked much.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 21:24 |
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Jewmanji posted:6!? Name them. There There is an all-timer. A+ song. The rest of the album is mediocre to bad. The ballads are sleepy instead of dreamy, the rock songs don’t break any new ground, the gloaming is maybe the most boring song in their catalog. The whole thing is too long and it feels longer. They sound burned out. I could absolutely listen to an argument that HTTT is their worst album. I would make the argument it’s their 2nd worst. Vs king of limbs which is exciting and energized and tight.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 21:45 |
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Jewmanji posted:
wtf
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 21:48 |
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BigFactory posted:Exactly. I don’t even know what songs people are supposed to not like on it. The Radiohead fandom is just a bunch of lifelong contrarians, you'll always find someone not liking something
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 22:46 |
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Jewmanji posted:6!? Name them. I like all those TKOL songs but I'm with you on Let Down. Watching Ixi Music video about it helped me appreciate it, but it's still very very far from being my favorite.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 00:19 |
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BigFactory posted:The rest of the album is mediocre to bad. There's nothing new under the sun when it comes to Radiohead opinions. But this... this is a new one for me. FWIW I agree with you on The Gloaming.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 00:41 |
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who else thinks amnesiac is the best one?
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 03:57 |
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Amnesiac is better than Kid A, yeah
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 04:04 |
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Otis Reddit posted:who else thinks amnesiac is the best one? Pull/Pulk is the best song therefore Amnesiac is the best album.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 04:25 |
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I don’t like let down either and tbh the last time I listened to TKOL my favorite songs was Feral so not sure what that says about my opinions. Staircase is better than the entire album tho
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 04:41 |
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I think HTTT is almost a good album, but a bit bloated and not sequenced particularly well. I have my own track list for when I do want to listen to it. TKOL is a great album but I think the stuff really shines live. The album version of Lotus Flower is mellow, but the live version has way more energy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiaf-ErX1Ow&t=43s Magpie really rocks live too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ko-qRJVME&t=34s
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 04:53 |
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HD DAD posted:Amnesiac is better than Kid A, yeah Agree, kind of. I used to be strongly indifferent to Amnesiac, but after listening again earlier this year it really grew on me. I feel like Kid A is the stronger album of the two, but I don't really like listening to it unless I'm listening to it in full, which I'm rarely in the mood for. Amnesiac's individual tracks are way more enjoyable.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 04:54 |
Kid A and Amnesiac are like ying and yang, one might have a preference but neither can be properly thought of as 'better', at least imo
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 08:09 |
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Jewmanji posted:I think the trouble is that TKOL is so short that even a single track being mediocre can really impact the general feel of the album. There's three tracks on the album that I don't really care for, and so it doesn't really leave you with much. If you were to add in the b-sides and extra stuff like Staircase and Supercollider, suddenly those three bad tracks wouldn't have as much impact. This is essentially what happens with HTTT. I think everyone probably has 2-3 tracks on HTTT they don't care for, but because it's so long, there's still plenty to love and so its reputation remains fairly solid. Yeah, I think it's too tight and some poor choices were made in regards to what tracks to put on the album and what tracks to leave off. That just comes with being a fan of these guys though, there's always incredible songs that don't make it onto albums for one reason or another that will scratch different itches for different people. What I do find really impressive about TKOL however is that it covers so much sonic ground for such a short album. Play the tracks 'Feral', 'Give Up the Ghost', 'Codex' & 'Lotus Flower' to someone unfamiliar and tell them they're tracks from the same band and comprise half of an album and they'd probably think you're bullshitting them. It's a huge accomplishment that they actually pulled it off and made it work.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 15:56 |
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I think the only track they actually left off TKOL was The Butcher. The rest was finished and released after TKOL came out. I could see The Butcher on there, but the other ones don't really fit the chopped, looped, and sampled nature of the other tracks on there. I think the post-TKOL, pre-AMSP era is almost its own era, with heavier use of synths and grooves with tracks like Staircase, Supercollider, Identikit, and Ful Stop. As much as I love AMSP, I do kind of wish we got a followup to TKOL that went deeper into that sound.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 16:27 |
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It’s funny how Bangers + Mash of all songs was kinda the most indicative of the forthcoming TKOL era. Just grooves built out of loops and splices. The main difference is TKOL was digital, while Bangers was physical tape loops. Weirdly, it was also the earliest song worked on from what would become In Rainbows, dating back to 2004. So they’ve had that funky loop streak in their system for a bit. e: yeah forgot about Nude HD DAD fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Nov 29, 2023 |
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HD DAD posted:Weirdly, it was also the earliest song worked on from what would become In Rainbows, dating back to 2004.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 16:48 |
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Now that I don’t have to change discs in my car or Walkman I don’t really think about the albums themselves that much anymore. I just play what I feel like hearing by them in whatever order I’m in the mood for. I hope the release another 8-12 songs soon or whatever but after the initial release they’ll just end up in the same rotation as everything else.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 21:49 |
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Volte posted:I think the only track they actually left off TKOL was The Butcher. The rest was finished and released after TKOL came out. I could see The Butcher on there, but the other ones don't really fit the chopped, looped, and sampled nature of the other tracks on there. I think the post-TKOL, pre-AMSP era is almost its own era, with heavier use of synths and grooves with tracks like Staircase, Supercollider, Identikit, and Ful Stop. As much as I love AMSP, I do kind of wish we got a followup to TKOL that went deeper into that sound. I think These Are My Twisted Words could technically be considered the first song of the TKOL era? But yeah I'm just lumping all the songs that they worked on during the recording of the album together. What surprised me was learning that Daily Mail was actually written 6 years prior, and when they decided to perform it for Basement the arrangement was completed in a week by Jonny. Wild how long they can have things cooking before they're recorded, if at all. Completely agree about Identikit & Ful Stop as well, for me the original live versions were incredible and the AMSP versions were disappointing. That album in general is just weird to me though, even though I really like Burn the Witch, Daydreaming & True Love Waits. I agree with the sentiment that there is kind of a missing album between TKOL & AMSP where if they had gone back into the studio with their new material as soon as the tour ended, I imagine they probably could have put out another album of similar length to TKOL which would have captured the sound of the band at the time. The original versions of Ful Stop & Identikit? A studio recording of Cut a Hole?
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Twisted Words came out and was first performed during the In Rainbows tour edit: It was accompanied by art reminiscent of the TKOL art though, so the association is pretty natural Volte fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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