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Ashlands dev update: https://steamcommunity.com/games/892970/announcements/detail/5484883079151928751 Looks like weapons will have revised magic powers. I guess theyll intrgrate eitr into somehow.
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I’ve been trying out nomap. I abandoned my first run after I got lost and realized that (1) I never actually figured out my base orientation and had just unconsciously assumed something from my last game and (2) I was probably running the wrong way around the starter continent. The second run, I‘ve been much more disciplined about sketching maps and (especially) making a road network, and it’s been going pretty much okay. I have cheated twice. The first was when I screwed up my first time sailing, got turned around in a mist cloud, and spent like twenty minutes sailing back and forth before I realized I just wasn’t where I thought I was at all. I could probably have gotten out of that in retrospect; I just got impatient and wasn’t trusting what the world tree was telling me. The second was while I was tracking down the merchant, which is just incredibly dull in nomap; I’d done a lot of exploring already, and I was getting worried that I might’ve accidentally spawned him when I got lost on the sea earlier. Turns out I hadn’t, and he was actually right across a ravine that was next on my list to cross. Only other thing of note is that I’ve been enjoying playing with knives. I haven’t gotten lucky with my ocean crossings so far, though — not enough islands to make the abyssal razor. Also I made the iron sledge to fight Bonemass with, and I think it was a mistake; I kindof hate the way it attacks.
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Nov 22, 2023 20:11
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I recommend building something as you explore to mark where youve been. This way, you can create sign posts for yourself. Making pathways using the hoe is also very helpful. I also build totems along the shoreline to mark areas while sailing. I will also use bonefires as they last a long time and are visible from quite a distance.
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Nov 22, 2023 21:10
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I really recommend the mod that increases your map discovery range bubble while in a boat, it felt much more enjoyable to sail along the coast and fill out the coastlines and open ocean instead of having long snail trails through the oceans.
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Nov 22, 2023 21:13
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Yeah, once I started making so many roads and little towers, overlands has been pretty straightforward. It’s funny how off my sense of direction gets in the forest, though; there’s a meadow that I discovered three separate times and only really realized it was the same meadow when I made roads cross-crossing it. I mostly use bonfires to have good landmarks for sailing. Tracking down bosses directionally with vegisir is kindof fun. I had to sail quite a ways to find Elder. Actually, I got quite lucky with that: after a million years on the water, I thought it was sending me through a strait, but I got attacked by a sea serpent and had to ditch on the continent to the left, which turned out to be the one with Elder on it. Lesson learned to not trust quite so much in tiny angles over long distances. And then I got even luckier because that continent also had some swamps, and there was a vegisir stone in the first tower I found there, and Bonemass turned out to be, like, 200m away.
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Nov 22, 2023 21:27
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I found a mod that lets you upgrade the wisp to push away more mist for a LOT of silver. Good mod, There aren't enough uses for silver.
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Nov 22, 2023 22:08
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Eifert Posting posted:I found a mod that lets you upgrade the wisp to push away more mist for a LOT of silver. Mod name/Link?
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Nov 23, 2023 00:38
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Better_Wisps, Digitalroot Man, the framerate loss from terraforming is such a bummer. I hope they find some longterm solution for it. It seems like at some point the seed would be able to learn the new terrain but I don't know poo poo about videogame design. I wanted to show off a video of my base but w/ video on playback it's like 3 fps, not a typo.
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Nov 23, 2023 18:24
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What sort of machine are you using?
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Nov 23, 2023 18:28
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Nothing special but I can run games like Cyberpunk and BG3 with everything but the highest end lighting stuff.. Eventually I'll replace my CPU, That's the big bottleneck. The graphics card is a 2060. I just feel like every game has a certain degree of return for demand versus result when it comes to aesthetics and Valheim gives you very little graphically for what you put into it. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Nov 23, 2023 |
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Nov 23, 2023 18:41
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I finally decided to just fight the Queen one-on-one. Honestly she's easier than yagluth. I did a pure magic run with her and the only thing that was somewhat difficult was managing the mobs. In terms of one-on-one combat she's probably the easiest boss, managing the swarms and the seekers is the only real pain in the rear end. You definitely want as many of the magic potions as you can carry and to keep shielded skeleton dudes up at all time, gives you a lot of breathing room
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Nov 23, 2023 20:48
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When I fought her with magic, I didn’t have the necromancy staff, but fireballs worked fine. She’s pretty slow on the stairs, so I mostly just circled around the upper tiers and cycled between taking as many potshots as I could and blowing away the waves of minions. She’s a lot easier when you fight her that way, though, yeah. As a solo player, I’d probably say Queen (melee) > Yag > Bonemass > Queen (magic) > Moder > (big gap) > Elder > Eikthyr.
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Nov 23, 2023 21:03
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Anyway, I have finally achieved true mastery of the swamps, by which I mean I finally loving found a loving turnip. Killed Bonemass earlier, which was rough without proper food. Also I tried just using the sledge against him and it was awful, so I gave up and also crafted the mace, which unfortunately means I have to go get more iron to move on to the mountains. The sledge was really nice against the adds, at least.
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Nov 23, 2023 21:07
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I had really grinded iron before the masshole so by the time I fought him I had a level 4 mace and full iron armor. Had a harder time with modor.
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Nov 23, 2023 21:13
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Modor in my experience is really a crapshoot of geography. The first time I fought her, her spawn was in a valley, and that fight was pure chaos because I had no control over where she ended up. That was the one where she also found and wrecked my base. Also I think I was trying to fight her as a melee specialist, which was not the way. But if you can get her onto a peak, or at least a consistent mountain side, you can just find/make something to dodge behind and shoot her to pieces from there. Eikthyr and Elder are cake because their spawns basically come with those.
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Nov 23, 2023 21:31
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I setup my new base next to a Yagluth altar. My plan is to cover the area with Lox. Aside from that ive started sailing around Mistlands. I managed to find the Queen spawn, but more importantly ive found an infested mine, yiddrisil roots and dvergr outside the fog so i have mable from deconstructing their tower and the root extractor. Ive yet to investigate the mine but provided it has some cores itll be worth it. Just need to find a skull now. My intent is to fight Yagluth with Mistlands gear.
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Nov 24, 2023 14:20
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All you need for Bonemass is a maxed iron mace, maxed iron buckler, and poison resist pots. Most of his melee attacks are pretty easy to parry; just don’t get greedy when you’re hitting him back. A few healing/stamina pots for any oh poo poo moments and you’re basically set.
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Nov 24, 2023 19:11
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I’m bad at parry, so I just dodge. For some reason there’s a huge delay between his attacks, so if you run in with high stamina (and no adds alive), then roll when he swings, you can get six attacks in before you need to get out. The poison cloud is survivable with the mead, but poo poo always seems to go bad if I try; I just take my six free swings and then get out to avoid the cloud and clear the next round of adds.
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Nov 24, 2023 19:23
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Killed Moder. She was on too of the giant mountain that you can almost see from the sacrifice ring. Think I’m done with this nomap thing, and maybe with Valheim for a few months. Went ahead and loaded the seed in a viewer. 3PV0FLqvGQ, if anyone wants to check it out. Never seen a starting continent so small; I think some part of the engine must consider it connected to the continent to the north. I was mostly mapping things okay, except I have the orientation of one of the continents very wrong, and I finally understand how I got so confused about a different continent — there’s actually a whole second part of it that happens to have very similar features to the first (thin layer of swamp along the southern coast that you can see other swamps from, long stretches of black forest, mountain in the center). Glad I didn’t continue playing this, finding Yagluth looks like it would’ve been awful. It was a neat experiment, but I don’t think I’ll be doing nomap again.
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Nov 26, 2023 09:11
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Heh, Yagluth for me was the easiest find because it was next to the shore. But yeah fundementally no map is interesting but somewhat impractical. If they added the map function to the cartography table that would be immense. Burns fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Nov 26, 2023 |
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Nov 26, 2023 20:43
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Update on Mistlands adventure. I cleared out one infested mine but unfortunately it only had 4 dark cores. While trying to establish a little outpost at the first infested mine i died and had to sail back. Now i am back but there's a gjall patrolling the area and it has already destroyed the work benches and one of the longships. Im using the mine to hide out but I dont know if it will eventually go away. Fighting it might take time and risks given no room to manouver. Might just pop in and out of the mine till it goes down.
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Nov 27, 2023 17:01
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Burns posted:Update on Mistlands adventure. I cleared out one infested mine but unfortunately it only had 4 dark cores. While trying to establish a little outpost at the first infested mine i died and had to sail back. Now i am back but there's a gjall patrolling the area and it has already destroyed the work benches and one of the longships. Im using the mine to hide out but I dont know if it will eventually go away. Fighting it might take time and risks given no room to manouver. Might just pop in and out of the mine till it goes down. I would sail back another time, setup a portal a bit away, and then go deal with the gjall. They're absolute jerks.
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Nov 27, 2023 17:47
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Treasure this moment in your dark, hate-filled heart, because once you can build a forge, you will gain access to the ultimate gjall-fighting weapon and can start going out of your way to take the fuckers down.
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Nov 27, 2023 18:50
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trevorreznik posted:I would sail back another time, setup a portal a bit away, and then go deal with the gjall. They're absolute jerks. I think the best strategy for dealing with them at first is not to. Unless there are dwarves nearby, in which case let them do it and scavenge the corpses afterward. But they're really high risk, low reward fights and involve interacting with ticks, The Worst Enemy.
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Nov 27, 2023 18:51
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BrianRx posted:I think the best strategy for dealing with them at first is not to. Unless there are dwarves nearby, in which case let them do it and scavenge the corpses afterward. But they're really high risk, low reward fights and involve interacting with ticks, The Worst Enemy. I probably had a dozen deaths in mistlands due to fighting Gjall in rocky areas for cover + keeping ticks away, then an hour afterwards some tick would hop onto me when I was completely unprepared.
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Nov 27, 2023 20:37
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Pretty satisfying when you nail one mid leap just as they're about to latch onto you though
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Nov 27, 2023 21:19
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Just don’t get caught with 0 stamina around them and you should be fine. You generally shouldn’t be sprinting to exhaustion in the Mistlands anyway because of the possibility of sprinting into a pack of Seekers.
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Nov 27, 2023 22:32
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Yeah I never really found ticks to be a problem, the atgeir spin-to-win has a longer range than they're jump, and kills a bunch of them at once. The other Gjall attacks on the other hand are no joke. What weapon makes it easy to kill them?
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Nov 27, 2023 22:58
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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The arbalest. Point and click for massive damage with knockback. No dropoff, so it’s a lot easier to hit the critical area. Plus it’s pretty easy to find time to load it while dodging attacks.
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So i managed to lure the gjall oit and took him down with a Huntman Bow (took 40 needle arrows). I managed to get enough cores to make stuff now. I refined 19 pieces of eitr so its not really enough to make any of the special items, but its a start.
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Nov 28, 2023 18:14
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Burns posted:So i managed to lure the gjall oit and took him down with a Huntman Bow (took 40 needle arrows). I managed to get enough cores to make stuff now. I refined 19 pieces of eitr so its not really enough to make any of the special items, but its a start. You're going to want to make something other than the feather cloak. This is a mistake. Make the feather cloak. After that if you have any interest at all in magic prioritize that because you have to build the skills up from level one. They've toned it way down, it feels like to me, but magic is still incredibly good and useful and fun. The Eitr balls are probably the single biggest game changer after iron. You definitely want to prioritize getting as much going as possible as quickly as possible because, even if you don't have any interest in completionism, there's going to be easily seven or eight equipment pieces you're going to want to fully upgrade. You can generally get anywhere between 60 and 80 bits of brain mush from each skull you find. Edit: I don't really like using the crossbow in combat because it's so slow but it's great for pegging those little rabbit bastards. The arrow travels faster it feels like and there's hardly any drop so you can really nail the little fellas from across the map. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Nov 28, 2023 |
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Nov 28, 2023 18:44
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Please remember these mistland excursions are done without the wisp so it limits the areas i can explore. Which of the magic staffs would be most useful against Yagluth?
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Nov 28, 2023 19:17
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40 arrows seems like a lot. Were you shooting it in the underbelly?
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Nov 28, 2023 19:19
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I bet the frost staff does a poo poo ton of damage. The problem you're going to have is you're going to need to be able to go into the mistlands to get the magic food and, if you are soloing yagluth, the last thing you want is to be less durable. This is probably the last thing you're going to want to hear but having a buddy is going to be significantly more beneficial than any equipment You can get from the mists.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:21
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Eifert Posting posted:You're going to want to make something other than the feather cloak. Good advice
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Nov 28, 2023 19:23
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He’ll resist the fire staff, so not that one. I dunno if the necromancy staff would be good, he might just clear them too quickly. I agree that frost would probably work great.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:23
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Yag is probably cake with the frost staff, honestly. The only thing normally stopping you from just popping him with infinite arrows is that he’s so resistant to piercing damage — even with frost arrows, a large part of the damage is the piercing damage from the bow.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:28
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Eifert Posting posted:This is probably the last thing you're going to want to hear but having a buddy is going to be significantly more beneficial than any equipment You can get from the mists. Mistlands food is no problem as ive already found the blue mushroom. Still no jotun puffs, but thats only used for health and stamina foods. This is strictly solo play. Im hoping to throw around 40 lox at Yagluth. Worse come to it, ill have a lot of meat and hide after the fight.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:34
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There are usually a lot of jotun puffs on continental borders with Mistlands, in case you’ve been mostly exploring with boats. I think that’s because they like to spawn in flat areas, and the borders force a lot more flat areas. And once you have even a single puff, you can farm them, assuming there’s a safe bit of the biome you can find.
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I didn't realize you could skip past Yagluth like that, that's really cool. I once tried to go straight for silver from the meadows, complete with making a gigantic trench up a mountain to find silver without a wishbone (I died a lot to drakes, and had fires everywhere to keep warm), and found out that I still couldn't get the silver vein to break until someone broke a piece off with an iron pickaxe.
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