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Nov 28, 2023 21:07
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veni veni veni posted:You should make a PHD level philosophy video game then space homos Someone already did, it’s called hentai quest 5 The subtext is a bit hidden though
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Nov 28, 2023 21:11
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i'm playing fire emblem three houses right now and its dotted with cutscenes containing far too many characters and a fairly run of the mill "kingdom against the rebels" plot with some voice acting that i disliked enough to switch to Japanese so it at least sounds mysterious the actual fighting bit is cool though, playing on easy so its a bit of a walkover and might get boring soon but i was after a nice turn based strategy game and it fits the bill
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Nov 28, 2023 21:12
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ymgve posted:Talos Principle 1 and 2 is cool and good. Though I feel they reduced the difficulty in the sequel, I only really got stumped by a few bonus puzzles. Yeah this is my only complaint so far, there aren't any puzzles like getting inside the house to watch tv, or putting the aperture labs sign on the moon or anything, it seems all that stuff got replaced with the star monuments? I can't believe that's true though, is it?
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Nov 28, 2023 21:43
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Talos had those sort of puzzles, but that type of box-breaking logic started with the harder star puzzles and ended up with funny easter eggs, of which there where dozens and dozens. Like you literally find a bed to finally get some drat sleep in, can chuck stuff at the moon, etc. Also talos being philosophy 101 isn't a burn at all; that's a reasonably high standard to throw into a video game. Like, if another game had 100-level courses on actual history it'd be praised for its accuracy, or a puzzle that required proper chemistry lab technique to not gently caress up, etc. As for it being accesible material, note how Talos got universal praise for being a thinking game, instead of being pretentious - unlike other thread favorites. ----------- Unpopular video game opinion: More big budget games should include material from actual 100-level Arts courses, it's clearly working so far.
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Nov 28, 2023 21:57
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Vic posted:Who doesnt like spreadsheet software? i will litsd\ly die
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Nov 28, 2023 22:01
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Which was the Ice Pick game where you basically farmed colors to fight bosses and got rewarded with CGI girl strip teases?
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Nov 28, 2023 22:02
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Duck and Cover posted:Talos Principle, The Witness, Braid could all learn a thing about story telling from Baba is You. Someone should make a mod that replaces The Witness's TED talks with the Onion's parody TED talks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQcNYb3DydA
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Nov 28, 2023 22:07
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ymgve posted:Someone already did, it’s called hentai quest 5 Do I need to start with Hentai Quest 1 to get acquainted with the lore or can I just jump right in to 5? JollyBoyJohn posted:i'm playing fire emblem three houses right now and its dotted with cutscenes containing far too many characters and a fairly run of the mill "kingdom against the rebels" plot with some voice acting that i disliked enough to switch to Japanese so it at least sounds mysterious Even Normal difficulty is way too easy and you really ought to restart on Hard, but then that means slogging through all the opening cutscenes instead. Up to you.
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Nov 29, 2023 01:20
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Sapozhnik posted:Even Normal difficulty is way too easy and you really ought to restart on Hard, but then that means slogging through all the opening cutscenes instead. Up to you. Fire Emblem has always struggled to get difficulty right but it's been completely hosed ever since Awakening. Fates: Conquest is the only one that has felt even decent.
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Nov 29, 2023 01:23
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Talos presents its philosophy stuff in really engaging and thoughtful ways that encourage players to actually explore their own beliefs. It loving kicks rear end and saying it's dumb because it's "pretentious" or that its ideas aren't advanced or esoteric enough is extremely funny.
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Nov 29, 2023 01:33
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The Moon Monster posted:Fire Emblem has always struggled to get difficulty right but it's been completely hosed ever since Awakening. Fates: Conquest is the only one that has felt even decent. It's some monkey paw bullshit that the only FE game in a minute with good challenge is also the one most poorly written and by such an incredible degree. Vakal posted:Which was the Ice Pick game where you basically farmed colors to fight bosses and got rewarded with CGI girl strip teases? The Void
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Nov 29, 2023 01:41
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Fire Emblem seems like some kind of anime dating simulator that begrudgingly has an rpg attached to it
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Nov 29, 2023 02:02
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Caesar Saladin posted:Fire Emblem seems like some kind of anime dating simulator that begrudgingly has an rpg attached to it the series started out as anime romance of the three kingdoms rpg, but it turned into anime romance your stepsister rpg
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Nov 29, 2023 02:03
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Caesar Saladin posted:Fire Emblem seems like some kind of anime dating simulator that begrudgingly has an rpg attached to it Apparently Awakening was planned as the series' last hurrah, but turning it into a dating simulator made the sales skyrocket so that's what it has been ever since.
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Nov 29, 2023 02:42
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George posted:Talos presents its philosophy stuff in really engaging and thoughtful ways that encourage players to actually explore their own beliefs. It loving kicks rear end and saying it's dumb because it's "pretentious" or that its ideas aren't advanced or esoteric enough is extremely funny. the puzzles are dumb so the game is dumb
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Nov 29, 2023 03:06
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George posted:Talos presents its philosophy stuff in really engaging and thoughtful ways that encourage players to actually explore their own beliefs. It loving kicks rear end and saying it's dumb because it's "pretentious" or that its ideas aren't advanced or esoteric enough is extremely funny. When are they going to make dogs playing poker into a video game?
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Nov 29, 2023 03:48
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Vic posted:Saying something is "freshman level philosophy" is like jerking it 10 times a day to something so extremely niche you can't even get it up unless it looks like you. I don't know why people expect writing as sophisticated to the same degree as what you'd need to get a PhD in a video game or movie. I just don't want the stories to be dumb and that's already a bar most aren't able to reach. Did The Matrix really need more scenes crammed with philosophical parlance? Conversely, would the movie have been better if it wasn't there at all? Nah and nah.
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Nov 29, 2023 03:59
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On the other hand if every Marvel movie contained a secret lecture on enough subjects then Disney watchers could have an associates degree just from being diligent consumers.
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Nov 29, 2023 04:14
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Calling something “entry level” has always been a trash criticism.
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Nov 29, 2023 04:14
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Gaius Marius posted:The Void This game is weird and cool. I cant say its a “good game” but its interesting and unique.
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Nov 29, 2023 04:15
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hey go easy on him, people need to justify their degree in philosophy somehow. Usually that manifests in calling things Philosophy 101 every time someone mentions something that they found interesting.
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Nov 29, 2023 04:24
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Philosophy is for nerds who aren't good enough at math to be mathematicians
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Nov 29, 2023 04:43
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QuarkJets posted:Philosophy is for nerds who aren't good enough at math to be mathematicians I majored in both.
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Nov 29, 2023 04:46
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George posted:I majored in both. How was that? I went CS > philosophy > history because I didn't want to break my brain as hard, or endure the sheer misery you did
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Nov 29, 2023 04:50
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The crossover between describing games as "philosophy 101" for trying to say anything at all, and people complaining there's too much words or writing in games is pretty big ime. Edit: as someone who did a Maths/Physics double degree anyone who says that STEM or whatever is objectively harder or more important than a non STEM field is a loving idiot that doesn't know enough about either side.
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Nov 29, 2023 04:51
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settle down beavis
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Nov 29, 2023 04:54
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MrQwerty posted:How was that? I got into the non-mathematical philosophy so it was a great escape.
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Nov 29, 2023 05:02
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video games don't need to say anything though. They just need to be fun to play.
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Nov 29, 2023 05:07
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:This game is weird and cool. I cant say its a “good game” but its interesting and unique. You had one side that basically told you to never do anything because it was possibly going to destroy the world, one side that was totally bonkers and would give you quests that ultimately lead to you loving yourself over (but at least it was stuff for you to do), and then halfway through the 3rd side which revealed you were destroying the world but it's hosed anyway and it just wants to leave by any means necessary. I really like having to puzzle out what the meta game is even supposed to be: farming? combat? doing nothing and hoping for a plot shift? It was semi random, so hard to tell even if you'd already played before. Besides Pathologic they also had a little 2D horror game Knock Knock that was along those lines, making you ask if you're attracting the monsters, scaring them away, or just inventing time wasting activities for yourself to make yourself feel better. I can see why this type of game is unpopular. It both suffers from being generally aggravating due to the player being punished without knowing the reason, as well as people having access to the internet and just looking up what strategy to use. Oh yeah, and some game called The Quest for Gravity? I think it was Icepick Lodge does Banjo Nuts and Bolts but I don't recall it being good even by my standards. All I remember is driving around some contraption I made covered in screaming babies, and I think the mechanic was you needed as many babies as possible screaming at once.
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Nov 29, 2023 05:11
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:video games don't need to say anything though. They just need to be fun to play. I can guarantee you that there are many things in all of your favorite video games that you appreciate but don't need to be there. What a strange criticism of something.
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Nov 29, 2023 07:39
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:video games don't need to say anything though. They just need to be fun to play. listening to/reading/thinking about interesting things is a form of fun play.
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Nov 29, 2023 07:52
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/walks in to see a bunch of dudes comparing academic wieners Welp that's enough video games for me today.
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Nov 29, 2023 08:06
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They also need swords or guns or energy blasts too
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Nov 29, 2023 08:06
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I just bought Talos 2 tonight on a whim having never heard of the first one, and had to look up three of the beginner idiot puzzles while a voice in my head named like Timothy McVeigh’s white supremacist village whined about the Bible or something I have both STEM and non-STEM degrees, could this be my issue
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Nov 29, 2023 08:27
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I assume Talos 2 was polite enough not to drop you off the deep end like the Ghenna DLC did. The first game's initial puzzles where very simple, not sure if that's more appropriate? I say that not to be condescending, poo poo can escalate in that game and it might be nice to have a background PhD in puzzle lasers.
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Nov 29, 2023 08:42
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Zeluth posted:This piddley what they have done. I am ashamed that this is what you have seen. Are you having a strunk
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Nov 29, 2023 08:53
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I wish that developers would make good games instead of so many bad games
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Nov 29, 2023 09:37
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QuarkJets posted:I wish that developers would make good games instead of so many bad games Jeff vogel makes good games and rereleases them every 10 years in a newer engine. My unpopular opinion is that he should be rich and famous and exile 3 got me through childhood
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Nov 29, 2023 09:44
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The Loin King posted:Are you having a strunk Thank you for digging up this post I missed it. Probably my favorite post of 2023 now.
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