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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Everything is antisemitism. You undercook fish? Believe it or not, antisemitism. You overcook chicken, also antisemitism.
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Willa Rogers posted:her stepmom died on oct. 7, who was prolly the only mom she knew bc her birth mom died when she so young, so I'll give a pass on that one. both daughter and second wife have been dead to tom hand since 10/7
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the us has supported/aided a blockade for years that has caused mass starvation in yemen over 85000 children died from starvation
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HallelujahLee posted:the us has supported/aided a blockade for years that has caused mass starvation in yemen dta
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OctaMurk posted:It reminds me of how a lot of companies these days have like a a bajillion vice presidents. Or retail stores have every floor lead be called a manager. Material benefits are costly, but changing your title to something fancier is free. I presume Israeli army poo poo works the same way.
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it’s a such a huge reason why the USA and israel are desperate to ignore yemen, they know they can’t beat them on the land and they know another war will just explode all of saudis oil infrastructure. global trade has a lot more to loose than yemen if they start sinking boats
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Jel Shaker posted:it’s a such a huge reason why the USA and israel are desperate to ignore yemen, they know they can’t beat them on the land and they know another war will just explode all of saudis oil infrastructure. global trade has a lot more to loose than yemen if they start sinking boats yeah even with all the tech or whatever us aid/logsitics help the saudis were never able to even get anywhere into northern yemen
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The Voice of Labor posted:stop by the marx thread and read some capital. I will! Thank you for inviting me. Calibanibal posted:Would Maimonides support Gaza and if so can I put it on a sticker? Maimonides wrote about a Zionism that has absolutely nothing to do with Theodor Herzl's secular vision of an entirely Jewish state. Maimonides wrote of the return of the Kingdom of Israel as a result of a messianic age in which the establishment of a new Jewish land would be the absolute and apparent will of God, and it's all wrapped up in convoluted eschatology. Return to the lands surrounding Jerusalem wasn't seen as wrong (and the Jewish communities that lived there uninterrupted were not regarded as doing anything wrong either), but the establishment of a new Jewish kingdom without the express invitation of God certainly was, as it required the evidence of the Messianic age to provide the foundation for permission to build the third temple. This is why some Haredi groups argue in favor of anti-Zionism; because the Messianic age hasn't come about, any establishment of a fully Jewish kingdom is seen as anathema. Taking God's intention into your own hands, as it were. It's also why there is a gently caress ton of American Evangelical money to get Israel going on that end-times trip. Get some wars started, get that third temple built, and usher in those end times for Jesus to do... well, whatever evangelicals project onto him. As I said, my brain is rotting from age, so if anyone has any corrections to this, I am open to criticism. I should probably crack open some texts and refresh my brain to be honest. Calibanibal posted:so sickening that in 2023 America you can get shot just for I'm so sorry, but it was right there. Lazy_Liberal posted:unfortunately, a lot of folks use maimonides to justify wars, killing civilians, and pre-emptive strikes. now me, i think he'd poo poo his pants over guided missiles. Yes, I'm pretty sure Maimonides would be staunchly anti-Zionist in its modern context. Weka posted:Looking forward to reading some insanely nerdy posts by this fellow, hopefully crammed in wherever it is half relevant. I'll try not to poop up the thread with things that aren't relevant, as there are other posters providing far more relevant information that is more up to date and more important than my ramblings. Pohl posted:Then I'll lol at "culture in cspam", we just post and we have a common understanding. Isn't that a "forum culture" when it comes right down to it, though? Not downing it, just observing that it is kinda a thing and there's nothing wrong with that. Anyway, I should probably shut my dumb mouth and just watch others post far more important things.
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Sherbert Hoover posted:it's puzzling why the houthis would fire missiles at an american warship off their shores You mean the same warships that helped maintain a blockade causing a famine and food insecurity for literally millions for literally years? 
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I'd personally appreciate the number of dead babies I see in a day, blurred or otherwise, to be exactly 0 Than why did you play the video?
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Orange Devil posted:You mean the same warships that helped maintain a blockade causing a famine and food insecurity for literally millions for literally years? 'merica, earning its place on the ansarallah flag since at least 1776
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Shooting a man in Ramallah just to watch him die? Zionism. ftfy
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Mushika posted:I will! Thank you for inviting me. dont listen to them, marx has too many words. read fanon and rodney
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:Why wouldn't the houthis have a solid relationship with the major somali pirate groups, anyway? Pytting aside the fact that Iran is a Houthi ally and that Iranian ships were majorly involved in illegal fishing, Somali piracy was mostly extinct by 2013, Houthis didn’t take power until 2014. Their once capital Eyl is now a summer home for middle managers from Bosaso, and basically they have absolutely no ports or anywhere to shelter hostages at this point. Also houthis and pirates have no common aims.
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Brucolac posted:Maybe she didn't want to be touched by someone who literally publicly wished she was dead, idk Why doesn't my kidnapped daughter want to talk to me or be held. Must be Hamas torture and not the fact I'm on video shouting for joy when I heard she had died.
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Mushika posted:It's also why there is a gently caress ton of American Evangelical money to get Israel going on that end-times trip. Get some wars started, get that third temple built, and usher in those end times for Jesus to do... well, whatever evangelicals project onto him. Many evangelicals believe in something called Dispensational Premillennialism where the "righteous" get raptured while the unbelieving is left behind to suffer, which will then follow with a thousand years of rule by the "righteous" until the final judgement. It's distinctly American and was truly solidified in the 19th and 20th centuries from literal interpretations of the Book of Revelation. This interpretation has been popularized by numerous books and films because apocalyptic fiction suffering porn is always a moneymaker. It should be noted that dispensationalism has been waning in even evangelical academic circles, but I believe that it's still alive and well within the larger population since throughout history people like to think they live in historic times - and what could be more historic than the end times? For most of the last 2000 years, Catholics and mainline Protestants believed in amillenialism which specifically rejects a physical or political Kingdom of God. The Kingdom, and the millennium (which isn't actually 1000 years - the 1000 years is a symbolic number) has already begun and is expressed through the church.
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Ringo Roadagain posted:https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1729574366717923617?s=46&t=YjAdrC5z2HpTKJK1s-6pYw Ok this seems bad but the babies weren’t beheaded so really it’s okay. I am a western journalist
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Kunabomber posted:Many evangelicals believe in something called Dispensational Premillennialism where the "righteous" get raptured while the unbelieving is left behind to suffer, which will then follow with a thousand years of rule by the "righteous" until the final judgement. It's distinctly American and was truly solidified in the 19th and 20th centuries from literal interpretations of the Book of Revelation. This interpretation has been popularized by numerous books and films because apocalyptic fiction suffering porn is always a moneymaker. It should be noted that dispensationalism has been waning in even evangelical academic circles, but I believe that it's still alive and well within the larger population since throughout history people like to think they live in historic times - and what could be more historic than the end times? I'm very aware of that. If my childhood memory of Baptist scripture serves, didn't Jesus say that you shall not know the hour of my father's coming? Or cumming, I forget.
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the idea of evangelical support for Israel as 9-dimensional end times chess is overstated. there was definitely a time when that was true, and there are definitely still people who believe it, but the reins of power among white evangelical Protestants in the United States has passed to an entirely different set of pastors and donors. and their support for Israel is much less complicated: they like it because it’s an outpost of American empire and because it kills Muslims. they care much more about Israel’s functionality as a point of leverage that allows the US to extract wealth from the Middle East than they do about its supposed theological relevance - since most of them really just worship Capital and America in that order.
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Mushika posted:I'm very aware of that. If my childhood memory of Baptist scripture serves, didn't Jesus say that you shall not know the hour of my father's coming? Or cumming, I forget. Grew up Presbyterian and was always told that John Calvin will personally write some strongly worded letters if I try to figure out God's plans with my puny human brain lol Edit: "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Kunabomber has issued a correction as of 00:09 on Nov 29, 2023 |
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the idea of evangelical support for Israel as 9-dimensional end times chess is overstated. there was definitely a time when that was true, and there are definitely still people who believe it, but the reins of power among white evangelical Protestants in the United States has passed to an entirely different set of pastors and donors. and their support for Israel is much less complicated: they like it because it’s an outpost of American empire and because it kills Muslims. they care much more about Israel’s functionality as a point of leverage that allows the US to extract wealth from the Middle East than they do about its supposed theological relevance - since most of them really just worship Capital and America in that order. That makes a tremendous amount of sense. I don't think evangelical sentimentalism really survived Falwell's death. It's always been grift, but now it's simply grift without the fetter of belief.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the idea of evangelical support for Israel as 9-dimensional end times chess is overstated. there was definitely a time when that was true, and there are definitely still people who believe it, but the reins of power among white evangelical Protestants in the United States has passed to an entirely different set of pastors and donors. and their support for Israel is much less complicated: they like it because it’s an outpost of American empire and because it kills Muslims. they care much more about Israel’s functionality as a point of leverage that allows the US to extract wealth from the Middle East than they do about its supposed theological relevance - since most of them really just worship Capital and America in that order. Not sure if I should be glad that dispensationalism is dead and buried or be more terrified that its successor is just pure nihilistic hatred and greed
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kazmeyer posted:You undercook fish? Believe it or not, antisemitism. You overcook chicken, also antisemitism. That reminds me of this clever israeli/ Palestinian take on that skit https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8fvgRwj/
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the idea of evangelical support for Israel as 9-dimensional end times chess is overstated. there was definitely a time when that was true, and there are definitely still people who believe it, but the reins of power among white evangelical Protestants in the United States has passed to an entirely different set of pastors and donors. and their support for Israel is much less complicated: they like it because it’s an outpost of American empire and because it kills Muslims. they care much more about Israel’s functionality as a point of leverage that allows the US to extract wealth from the Middle East than they do about its supposed theological relevance - since most of them really just worship Capital and America in that order. this is what I've been saying. I've been around a lot of religious types all over the country and I've never encountered or even heard discussion of support for Israel because of religion. I agree it's a thing that exists but it is far from common. The whole concept of apocalyptic support for Israel is way more convoluted than Americans typically get about religion where supply side jesus is way more important than the rapture. If anything antisemitism is extremely common among fundies because jews killed jesus. I think the past month have shown how little support there is for Israel outside of the sicko cable news class in America. There were vague common sympathies from pro-Israel pop culture but it's not very durable and if the media and politicians weren't so absurdly all in on Israel it would not be hard to galvanize widespread popular opposition to endless Israeli funding.
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:Why wouldn't the houthis have a solid relationship with the major somali pirate groups, anyway? Actually Somalis and the Houthis have a decent relationship. Based on both countries being hosed by the west. Tried to pull the tweet but Elon and his goons have suspended the account. Attaching this photo of the tweet
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CheetoVonTito posted:Actually Somalis and the Houthis have a decent relationship. Based on both countries being hosed by the west. 
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FormaldehydeSon posted:Hamas ftw
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There was definitely an undercurrent of sincere religious doctrine around American support for Israel in the 90’s and early 00’s. See stuff like the massively popular Left Behind books as an example. But the “religious right” really fell apart as a political force after Dubya and while that undercurrent is still there, it’s no longer what the right rallies around anymore. Trump really brought about a much more “secular fascism” that simply wants the imperialism for its own sake.
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FormaldehydeSon posted:Somali pirates ftw This is something that doesn't get enough attention and is extremely important when it comes to recognizing- Dammit, I'm sorry this isn't the thread. I've discovered this forum and I need to figure out how to funnel my thoughts. I genuinely apologize.
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FormaldehydeSon posted:Hamas ftw boo Hez deserves a ftw they've been fighting the IDF for decades. Even the past month they've bagged a lot of IDF officers. Hez fans on twitter need to up their meme game it seems.
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PawParole posted:this is just US military trying to save face after a humiliating capture by houthis. Yeah AnsarAllah claims it is just an American fake, and that they didn't fire any missiles as the yanks have claimed. https://new.thecradle.co/articles/somali-pirates-not-ansarallah-pentagon-on-attempted-tanker-hijacking-near-yemen Just seems like a weird fake to do, it just scares shipping interests more to reintroduce the fear of Somali piracy, especially off the back of that Iranian fishing boat that was seized the other day. Which I presume was more of an enforcement action than piracy. https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2...eninsula-nov-22 That said, maybe it's a ploy to strengthen the Combined Maritime Forces. The UAE left earlier this year, although America hilariously denies it. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/uae-says-it-withdrew-us-led-maritime-coalition-two-months-ago-2023-05-31/ Just thought you might have some unique insights.
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