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PostNouveau posted:Ultimately, trading up is unnatural and disgusting behavior that upsets the natural order of things, and teams that engage in it deserve what they get. You should probably specify "to #1", because I don't think KC regrets their trade up at all.
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PostNouveau posted:Ultimately, trading up is unnatural and disgusting behavior that upsets the natural order of things, and teams that engage in it deserve what they get. We traded up for olave And Ingram.
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Lol Todd Bowles https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/1729619973318881577?t=uNpyOcSX8ntD1PgEjcropA&s=19
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really queer Christmas posted:We traded up for olave And Ricky Williams 
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PostNouveau posted:I know CJ Stroud looks a lot better so far, but I'm sure Stroud would also look like poo poo right now if he was playing on the Panthers. It’s this No QB is gonna look good when the pocket collapses every down before a receiver can get open downfield
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Why would you ever RPO in the NFL with a four foot ten quarterback
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GD_American posted:Why would you ever RPO in the NFL with a four foot ten quarterback Because the other team would never expect them to be dumb enough to do that, surely.
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GD_American posted:Why would you ever RPO in the NFL with a four foot ten quarterback He's four foot ten and a half if you measure in the morning <  >
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GD_American posted:Why would you ever RPO in the NFL with a four foot ten quarterback Why not? The handoff is the fun part of the RPO usually, right?
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Imagine being so goddamned MBA-brained that you watched what a man more red in the face than the racist mascot of the team he coached did to RG3 and thought "the only mistake was drafting a QB that was too big to evade tackles"
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Ignoring the RPO specific thing, “it didn’t really fit his offensive system” is such a wild response from a dude whose offense is loving lifeless. Like don’t do RPOs but do something, do loving anything different. Like Steichen is up in Indy doing insanely creative poo poo, the goddamn Browns are running their offense with all gadget and trick plays. SHOW ANY CREATIVITY Reich, Jesus. Or just any indication that you are making real changes to the system when its clearly not working
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RPO doesn't mean use your QB as a hammer necessarily. I think Sam Howell has the most RPO plays run this year and he only has 11 more carries than Bryce. Which is about one rush per week by this point. Its also something Miles Sanders is intimately familiar with. There are for sure concepts from that area the Panthers could run. Bryce should be doing more that kind of poo poo. You just don't want to use him as a goal line hammer.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Ignoring the RPO specific thing, “it didn’t really fit his offensive system” is such a wild response from a dude whose offense is loving lifeless. Like don’t do RPOs but do something, do loving anything different. Like Steichen is up in Indy doing insanely creative poo poo, the goddamn Browns are running their offense with all gadget and trick plays. SHOW ANY CREATIVITY Reich, Jesus. Or just any indication that you are making real changes to the system when its clearly not working It sounds like to me that Reich was just done with everything and didn't give a poo poo at that point. Man really should have taken some more time off after getting fired from Indy before coming back to coaching; I dunno if it would have improved anything for him personally, but Carolina was clearly the wrong situation for him
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Ignoring the RPO specific thing, “it didn’t really fit his offensive system” is such a wild response from a dude whose offense is loving lifeless. Like don’t do RPOs but do something, do loving anything different. Like Steichen is up in Indy doing insanely creative poo poo, the goddamn Browns are running their offense with all gadget and trick plays. SHOW ANY CREATIVITY Reich, Jesus. Or just any indication that you are making real changes to the system when its clearly not working This whole season kind of feels like Reich doing a work stoppage to protest Tepper forcing him to take the lil guy instead of the big strong armed pocket QB that he wanted. Obviously the more likely answer is that Reich is over the hill and too stubborn to change, but it’s much funnier to imagine that he just didn’t modify his offense at all in protest.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:This whole season kind of feels like Reich doing a work stoppage to protest Tepper forcing him to take the lil guy instead of the big strong armed pocket QB that he wanted. Obviously the more likely answer is that Reich is over the hill and too stubborn to change, but it’s much funnier to imagine that he just didn’t modify his offense at all in protest. There's poo poo coming out now that as the year went on Reich increasingly ignored advice from Caldwell and Brown and doubled down on his own system and plays etc. I think it's coming more and more clear that Reich isn't some innocent victim here.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Ignoring the RPO specific thing, “it didn’t really fit his offensive system” is such a wild response from a dude whose offense is loving lifeless. I don’t think he believes Bryce can run it at this level. I think the real story will eventually be that once Bryce got to camp, the coaching staff realized what they’d actually drafted. There’s a reason Bryce was hidden in preseason. BlindSite posted:RPO doesn't mean use your QB as a hammer necessarily. I think Sam Howell has the most RPO plays run this year and he only has 11 more carries than Bryce. Which is about one rush per week by this point. Howell also leads the league in sacks taken. And Bryce is staring down nine in the box because he doesn’t scare anyone with his arm
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GD_American posted:Why would you ever RPO in the NFL with a four foot ten quarterback His lower center of gravity will make him harder to tackle 
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Black Lighter posted:His lower center of gravity will make him harder to tackle It’s like swinging at a mosquito. Airflows knocks him out of the way.
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GD_American posted:Imagine being so goddamned MBA-brained that you watched what a man more red in the face than the racist mascot of the team he coached did to RG3 and thought "the only mistake was drafting a QB that was too big to evade tackles" What does any of this mean?
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The Big Jesus posted:What does any of this mean?     It was a drunk ramble. David Tepper is a rich idiot. Bryce Young is extremely short. Mike Shanahan wrecked his QB because he was angry the team owner drafted him.
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I think I mentioned this but when I went to a game this year I gasped when I saw how small he is in person.
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Don't worry, the Bucs will give Young back the confidence he's lost so far this year. Can't rush and can't cover so just what he needs. I'd be willing to bet he has a career high in passing yards this week.
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wandler20 posted:Bucs + Todd Monken + Jayden Daniels. Who says no? me, loudly
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Rehire Wilks Ask nicely for fields (they owe us) Do exactly what the team was doing at the end of 2022 Run the ball 30 times a game and let fields just play action to, uh, hmmm….. Mike evans or something
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wandler20 posted:Bucs + Todd Monken + Jayden Daniels. Who says no? Hell to the no.
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Oh my god. After years of "Brees is short" I thought it was just another excuse to wave away the other ways Young might be inadequate but that is stark.
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Free Gratis posted:Oh my god. Reminds me of the second half of this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjlYFWLUDBQ
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Free Gratis posted:Oh my god. The weekly comments from game announcers about him missing throws because he can't see over the defense isn't trash talking, it's just brutal honesty. e: it's also why he keeps getting sacked for huge losses, he has to drop back a lot further/roll out of the pocket a lot sooner to see downfield Coasterphreak fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Nov 29, 2023 |
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wandler20 posted:I'm still holding out hope that Vita Vea gets his hands on Bryce this week. good news about the carolina line
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wandler20 posted:I'm still holding out hope that Vita Vea gets his hands on Bryce this week. Me too.
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wandler20 posted:Bucs + Todd Monken + Jayden Daniels. Who says no? gently caress. Yes.
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wandler20 posted:Bucs + Todd Monken + Jayden Daniels. Who says no? Y’all stay away from Jayden, he’s too good for you.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Y’all stay away from Jayden, he’s too good for you. We’ll treat him right, hell we have an actual o-line (mostly) and a good receiving corps. Ignore the defense and running game please.
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FizFashizzle posted:I don’t think he believes Bryce can run it at this level. I think the real story will eventually be that once Bryce got to camp, the coaching staff realized what they’d actually drafted. There’s a reason Bryce was hidden in preseason. I don't think Howell's sack numbers matter at all when it comes to - could Bryce run some RPO concepts. He's not being sacked in the RPO.
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BlindSite posted:I don't think Howell's sack numbers matter at all when it comes to - could Bryce run some RPO concepts. He's not being sacked in the RPO. I’ve seen plays where the DT/DE makes it to the mesh point at the same time the RB does, that seems eminently doable for the Carolina O-line.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I’ve seen plays where the DT/DE makes it to the mesh point at the same time the RB does, that seems eminently doable for the Carolina O-line. Look, there's risk on every play - Rodgers detonated his Achilles doing nothing. My point is more that the offense was running concepts we hadn't seen (outside of Indy) for 15, 20 years. If you watch some of JT O'Sullivan's breakdowns there's multiple times where he says "man i haven't seen a play drawn up like this since my college days" or the more disturbing "this play is like the genesis of a modern play, modern offenses will do this.... instead of whats happening on screen" kind of thing. There's no motion, there's no bunch formations, there's no scheming leverage, no high/low flooding routes - all the modern stuff that good offenses run. The zonal blocking scheme in the run game isn't working. It just goes on and on the poo poo that's failed. I'm not saying operate every snap in an RPO concept system but two three plays a quarter? Probably worth thinking about even if two of them are a run and they dial a pass to tommy tremble. OK he might get hit at the mesh point. It also might stop the end from just burning around Moton or Icky 30 times a game because they don't need to worry about containment. So the options are - try something that might work. or dial up more flank screens and keep doing things that haven't worked for 12 weeks. Wonder which path you should take. Same thing that definitely doesn't work / try something that might improve things.
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