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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Deuce posted:

Wait is blackhawk not referring to a bird?

It’s is but this Black Hawk is a dude. He even fought for the British in 1812. Aside from the logo and cringey fan chops and headdresses it was the closest they got to respectful.

All those army helicopters with indigenous names have army dudes go to a ceremony and get permission. Again, it sure if ok but hell they did the bare minimum try compared to the sports teams.

The logo ofc looks nothing like him or even the dress of his nation, it’s gotta go

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_(Sauk_leader)

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HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Discendo Vox posted:

Iirc the blackhawks were the one significant exception regarding how these team names are handled.

Chief Black hawk is a guy and has roots in Illinois
The family him I've been told finds the depiction more flattering than he looked in real life.

Weather the team should have ever been called the Blackhawks in the first place is a different conversation, but the way they're using it today has the tribe's approval

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Florida State University also works closely with the Seminole Tribe of Florida to keep their approval for using their mascot, although the larger Seminole Nation of Oklahoma is less than enthused about its continued use.

Gah, you’re right, I was thinking of this one.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Then you have teams like the Fighting Illini who cannot ask the tribe (because it is gone) so the fans claim that no one is against it except white people who feel guilt.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
This is bad news for Biden, yall.
https://newrepublic.com/article/177121/no-tiktok-joe-biden-doesnt-control-price-quarter-pounder


article posted:

A story has been bouncing around on TikTok lately about a guy who went to a McDonald’s in Idaho in late 2022 and his meal came to $16.10. He posted the receipt, which went viral, and of course as the topic roared across the various social media platforms, a culprit was fingered. Beef producers? Nope. Potato growers? Hardly. McDonald’s itself? Are you kidding?

No, it was all the fault of Joe Biden.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

It is 4 dollars less than that here in commiefornia :ca:

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Then you have teams like the Fighting Illini who cannot ask the tribe (because it is gone) so the fans claim that no one is against it except white people who feel guilt.

Chief illini, I thought, wasn't real and it was just some white dude in a headress apeing native dances?
I have a memory of them having to change it to real dances.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

I hear when he took office he replaced Trump's Diet Coke button with a Big Mac price dial.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
Joe Biden turning a dial saying "price of a big mac" and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

What is it supposed to cost?

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

I AM GRANDO posted:

What is it supposed to cost?

In 1967 when the Big Mac was introduced it was 45c. Everything since then is wokeflation.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

Deuce posted:

Wait is blackhawk not referring to a bird?

It is, and its feathers are actually used in military pillows and blankets (not all the feathers mind you, just the blackhawk down)

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

It’s is but this Black Hawk is a dude. He even fought for the British in 1812. Aside from the logo and cringey fan chops and headdresses it was the closest they got to respectful.

All those army helicopters with indigenous names have army dudes go to a ceremony and get permission. Again, it sure if ok but hell they did the bare minimum try compared to the sports teams.

The logo ofc looks nothing like him or even the dress of his nation, it’s gotta go

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hawk_(Sauk_leader)

I probably would have figured this out if I had ever seen their logo, it turns out.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

Harvey Mantaco posted:

It is, and its feathers are actually used in military pillows and blankets (not all the feathers mind you, just the blackhawk down)

Goddamnit.

The Islamic Shock
Apr 8, 2021
I normally don't go for both-sidesing an issue but in this case it'd be nice to provide examples from both Biden and Trump of them getting false blame and false credit. Since the President not controlling the economy is something that's drat near always true at any time and the people who actually need the information in that article are very likely to dismiss it outright as pro-Biden propaganda.

I am finding it slightly amusing that media outlets are loving finally doing their jobs and reporting on a true fact that's been a true fact for centuries and all it took is a recent shift toward the majority of Americans letting their political beliefs be heavily influenced by something nonpartisan and objectively false that they did gently caress all to prevent

The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Nov 29, 2023

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

FlamingLiberal posted:

I'm glad that they are trying to defend this because it's technically not blackface, but it's clearly redface. Some absolute mush brains.

Is it redface if it is part of your own group?
https://twitter.com/GarbageHuman23/status/1729694813774020769?t=IubjJ0CU8IPGmlQBNuFGMw&s=19

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
chumash die hard chiefs fans? weird pick geographically, but i guess santa barbara/oxnard folks have a tendency to go for the cowboys because of their training camp, and san fransisco is the 49er's, so that only leaves the rams for non-colonizer mascots locally

in any case that's definitely not a headdress warn by the chumash historically, but the ins and outs of intra and inter-tribal politics is crazy enough that i would never want to make a judgment call on what level of appropriation is going on with a coastal california tribe member using a plain's indian style for a sporting event

i mean, there are 14 bands of chumash, and they don't always see eye to eye with each other on issues like this, before bringing in someone off of a sioux reservation to add into the discussion

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I’m just learning of this so who knows

Jesus III
May 23, 2007
He's wearing red and black, his face is red and black? Who gives a poo poo? Constantly getting tweaked by nothing poo poo like this is driving people crazy.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Is GarbageHuman23 a reliable source?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Discendo Vox posted:

Is GarbageHuman23 a reliable source?

Plenty of news articles about it at this point
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2023/11/29/media/mom-of-young-chiefs-fan-rips-deadspin-for-accusing-him-of-racism/amp/

Barrel Cactaur
Oct 6, 2021

Please keep in mind a portion of the RWM mougle sphere really hates Deadspins guts; as it basically only exists because new owners of the founders previous company bought it to say keep politics out of sports and they said no and quit when their editor got fired. It is an entire right wing culture war project to ensure sports remains a right adjacent pastime.

It's very easy to misrepreset a sub only newspaper article. Remember all of this is coming from effectively hostile direct competitors who are incentivised to portray the worst possible version of events. They would call "we should talk about sports teams use of racial loaded imagery" and an example photo as accusing a specific person of being hitler 2.

The second one would just be tracking down the subject and repeating claim one, it's not really substantiating it, just saying "someone called you racist, are you racist?" And acting shocked that literally anyone says no and how dare the first person allegedly make that accusation.

Just like Vice I think a mysterious well funded lawsuit in a plaintiff friendly jurisdiction is being fished for.

Barrel Cactaur fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Nov 29, 2023

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Barrel Cactaur posted:

Please keep in mind a portion of the RWM mougle sphere really hates Deadspins guts; as it basically only exists because new owners of the founders previous company bought it to say keep politics out of sports and they said no and quit when their editor got fired. It is an entire right wing culture war project to ensure sports remains a right adjacent pastime.

It's very easy to misrepreset a sub only newspaper article. Remember all of this is coming from effectively hostile direct competitors who are incentivised to portray the worst possible version of events. They would call "we should talk about sports teams use of racial loaded imagery" and an example photo as accusing a specific person of being hitler 2.

The second one would just be tracking down the subject and repeating claim one, it's not really substantiating it, just saying "someone called you racist, are you racist?" And acting shocked that literally anyone says no and how dare the first person allegedly make that accusation.

Just like Vice I think a mysterious well funded lawsuit in a plaintiff friendly jurisdiction is being fished for.

You're mistaking Defector for Deadspin, all the people worth a poo poo left Deadspin a few years ago to have a worker co-op after that editor got fired. This is all new people, similar idea but yeah all this was set in motion from the hulk hogan gawker thing forever ago.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Hannity is hosting and moderating a debate tonight between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.

https://news.yahoo.com/desantis-newsom-face-off-fox-051643250.html

Not sure what Newsom thinks he can get out of this. I don't see a scenario where Sean runs a fair debate here or doesn't put his finger on the scale. Assuming he's the one coming up with the questions, all I can imagine is "Governor DeSantis, why has your great free state of Florida thrived so much under your leadership?"

"Governor Newsom, why is the state of California such a disaster and why are millions of people fleeing your violent hellscape of a state?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Newsom just isn’t very smart

I didn’t know that Hannity was hosting the ‘debate’ until you mentioned it

Misunderstood
Jan 19, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

chumash die hard chiefs fans?
He's 5 so the Chiefs have dominated the NFL in his entire living memory. A bandwagoner. So basically he's a Gen Alpha Cowboys fan.

Just wait 'til somebody tells this kids the Patriots used to be good!

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

How long before the (now late!) Kissinger worship begins?

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

MrUnderbridge posted:

How long before the (now late!) Kissinger worship begins?

Since the 1970s

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

MrUnderbridge posted:

How long before the (now late!) Kissinger worship begins?

It's going to be a moment of worship and an eternity of shrieking about the left grave dancing.
Oh well, what can you do but weather the torrent of baseless accusations.

*ties up ballet slippers*

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

BiggerBoat posted:

Hannity is hosting and moderating a debate tonight between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.

https://news.yahoo.com/desantis-newsom-face-off-fox-051643250.html

Not sure what Newsom thinks he can get out of this. I don't see a scenario where Sean runs a fair debate here or doesn't put his finger on the scale. Assuming he's the one coming up with the questions, all I can imagine is "Governor DeSantis, why has your great free state of Florida thrived so much under your leadership?"

"Governor Newsom, why is the state of California such a disaster and why are millions of people fleeing your violent hellscape of a state?

This will be watched by all of five thousand people

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
To the surprise of no one, many of the people making a big scene at school board meetings about the content of books are ultimately right wing plants.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1729866145975418994?t=rzAYuOnj0mD_-2NLDrV-0A&s=19

The Islamic Shock
Apr 8, 2021

Nucleic Acids posted:

This will be watched by all of five thousand people
Most of them will be writers for late-night shows

Panfilo posted:

To the surprise of no one, many of the people making a big scene at school board meetings about the content of books are ultimately right wing plants.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1729866145975418994?t=rzAYuOnj0mD_-2NLDrV-0A&s=19
Oh for fucksakes, I've been out here every day reppin' socialism, I haven't seen any of those infamous George Soros checks and now the side that insists I get them is handing out the very same? Damnit why didn't I think to appeal to the rich people whose followers actively want to be lied to

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

The Islamic Shock posted:

Most of them will be writers for late-night shows

Oh for fucksakes, I've been out here every day reppin' socialism, I haven't seen any of those infamous George Soros checks and now the side that insists I get them is handing out the very same? Damnit why didn't I think to appeal to the rich people whose followers actively want to be lied to

One thing that bugs me about these ridiculous stories is that people like this woman obviously had peers that could speak up to debunk or corroborate their narrative but nobody does so everyone takes it at face value.

:v: "Yeah Staci? Total porn addict in high school, she kept getting busted watching Brazzers on her phone in homeroom sophomore year." uh huh.

That's why I'm always curious about hearing from people that went to school with these folks since it often paints a very different picture than the one they are trying to depict in the school board meeting.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Panfilo posted:

To the surprise of no one, many of the people making a big scene at school board meetings about the content of books are ultimately right wing plants.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1729866145975418994?t=rzAYuOnj0mD_-2NLDrV-0A&s=19

I'm not clicking this (can't, actually; I don't have Twitter so I can't see threads), is there an article or something instead?

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Prism posted:

I'm not clicking this (can't, actually; I don't have Twitter so I can't see threads), is there an article or something instead?

https://popular.info/p/mysterious-woman-tells-school-board

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Prism posted:

I'm not clicking this (can't, actually; I don't have Twitter so I can't see threads), is there an article or something instead?

The TL;DR, if this is the thing I think it is, is that the woman claimed that seeing two characters in a book share a kiss sent her on a spiraling porn addiction and she attempted to kill herself at 13.

It was, shockingly enough, not based in fact.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
I mean "oh no we can't show kids gay people holding hands or else they'll catch it and be ruined forever" is a stupid-rear end bigoted argument but at least the end goal of shutting down all public LGBTQ displays of affection as a means of control is a sadly recognizable one.

"I saw two characters kiss in a comic book and it directly led me to becoming a porn addict" is, like, hoolee poo poo these people are swinging for fences even Comstock himself could have hardly imagined. Children are too innocent and pure to be exposed to such lewd displays such as kissing now? Like at least Ted Bundy told James Dobson that it all started with beat-up playboys, and not what appears to be a screenshot from a random episode of Steven Universe, Jesus.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy

Neito posted:

The TL;DR, if this is the thing I think it is, is that the woman claimed that seeing two characters in a book share a kiss sent her on a spiraling porn addiction and she attempted to kill herself at 13.

It was, shockingly enough, not based in fact.

You don't know that, maybe it was the first piece of media she ever experienced as a human

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Crunch Buttsteak posted:


"I saw two characters kiss in a comic book and it directly led me to becoming a porn addict"

If memory serves, it was just like, a book. Like, she wants to claim that she read the words "And then they kissed" and it lit an insatiable fire in her loins that consumed all.

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Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

Neito posted:

The TL;DR, if this is the thing I think it is, is that the woman claimed that seeing two characters in a book share a kiss sent her on a spiraling porn addiction and she attempted to kill herself at 13.

It was, shockingly enough, not based in fact.

You neglected to mention the part where she also just happens to be a PR flack for a right wing children's book publisher competing with Scholastic.

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