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Devor posted:If a journalist takes a report that a "dumb" viral mistake actual happened lots of times, and still frames it as 'lol look at these dumb cyclists' they should take away their little press card that they tuck into their hat It looks like they were just going too fast imo. There could be dogs/kids or what ever that you don't expect to be on a footpath and you should be in control of your bike.
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Jippa posted:It looks like they were just going too fast imo. There could be dogs/kids or what ever that you don't expect to be on a footpath and you should be in control of your bike. Riding into an obstacle without even slowing down because you didn't see the obstacle at all is not really correlated with going too fast. You can totally be riding at a speed that allows you to stop in plenty of time if you see an obstacle in front of you and still hit an obstacle that you literally don't see at all. Hell, smacking into an obstacle that you didn't notice happens even at walking speeds when people are distracted or the obstacle is hard to see! And it's very funny when caught on camera.
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Nov 29, 2023 15:29
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Jabor posted:Hell, smacking into an obstacle that you didn't notice happens even at walking speeds when people are distracted or the obstacle is hard to see! And it's very funny when caught on camera. If there's footage of me constantly stubbing my toe or hitting my elbow on the door handle in the hall, please delete it.
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Nov 29, 2023 15:31
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As an American, I find England's Freedom to Roam laws weird. That's what you get when your country's old as balls.
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Jippa posted:It looks like they were just going too fast imo. There could be dogs/kids or what ever that you don't expect to be on a footpath and you should be in control of your bike. As long as the dogs and kids are not camouflaged to blend into the footpath they'll be fine. This is a visual detection problem to be solved with a hazard marker, not a sight distance issue.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:11
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Nov 29, 2023 16:26
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Just run that bad boy in reverse for a few seconds, should put everything back where it needs to be
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Jabor posted:Riding into an obstacle without even slowing down because you didn't see the obstacle at all is not really correlated with going too fast. You can totally be riding at a speed that allows you to stop in plenty of time if you see an obstacle in front of you and still hit an obstacle that you literally don't see at all. exactly this - you can even hear the brakes on a bike screaming before one of the impacts so it very much seems an 'oh poo poo i didnt see that barrier', and one of the others remains stunned still in cycling position after landing on the ground which strongly supports they have no idea what just happened
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Nov 29, 2023 16:29
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Jabor posted:Riding into an obstacle without even slowing down because you didn't see the obstacle at all is not really correlated with going too fast. You can totally be riding at a speed that allows you to stop in plenty of time if you see an obstacle in front of you and still hit an obstacle that you literally don't see at all.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:39
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thehandtruck posted:if one was in the mood to view thousands upon thousands of osha violations per second, aka, the densest mass of osha violations on earth, what video(s) should one watch? Honestly, just get a job at a Tesla factory and get paid while you watch the fun go down.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:As an American, I find England's Freedom to Roam laws weird. That's what you get when your country's old as balls. It's only been around in the UK in its current form since 2000, though that law could be seen as resurrecting an old right. Either way it's a bit limited compared to other countries in northern Europe.
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Other Countries: Freedom to Roam America: Yeah just shoot people on your countryside property, it's cool.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:42
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mobby_6kl posted:Lol it absolutely is correlated. We call this an "unsafe speed". If you can't see a stationary barrier then you should slow down. Yep. Plenty of people around my area plow into deer at insane speeds.
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Grey Cat posted:Other Countries: Freedom to Roam I watched that youtube guy walk across Wales in a straight line and all the 900 year old farmers would loving love to be able to shoot people walking on their piece of swampland
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mobby_6kl posted:Lol it absolutely is correlated. We call this an "unsafe speed". If you can't see a stationary barrier then you should slow down. If I paint camouflage paint on a bollard, does that make all the cars travelling near it travel at an unsafe speed? When it was yellow they could see it, when it's camouflaged they couldn't see it to stop in time and started crashing. I argue 'no', hiding a hazard does not make road users' actions unsafe. If you can mitigate a danger by slapping a hazard marker on it, it is a problem with the hazard and not the road users.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:45
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Jabor posted:Riding into an obstacle without even slowing down because you didn't see the obstacle at all is not really correlated with going too fast. Actually, speed is directly correlated with how easily you can spot obstacles, react to them, and stop safely.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:49
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Atticus_1354 posted:Actually, speed is directly correlated with how easily you can spot obstacles, react to them, and stop safely. *paints a photorealistic tunnel onto a wall, immediately causing high speed crashes* look at all these people traveling at unsafe speeds
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Nov 29, 2023 16:52
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Tbh that gate looked more like unsafe road design. On public roads, i rarely find cyclists that do more than an average of 30km/h. Bit less uphill, bit more downhill. If you cannot properly see it at 30km/h, the road's design is bad. From 30km/h on a bicycle you can come to a full stop in about 10 meters (Excluding reaction time). Grey metal on a grey day on a grey road surface is simply hard to see, especially if there's other things to pay attentention to. There's a good reason why any gate and modal filter bollard here in Cycle Country is painted white and signal-red:  Bare galvanized steel is too hard to see from a distance. Compare the railway's gate to the chain link fence's tubular frame, on the other side of the rail. The difference is rather large. Of course you still gotta pay attention. But a signal red and white gate is visible from a couple hundred meters away so you get plenty of chances to look into the distance again and notice it.
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Nov 29, 2023 16:52
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Speed, visibility, who can say in the end? The important thing is that they had a video camera installed
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Javid posted:
I had to clean up the edge of a 4" line, except it was recessed into the block wall an inch or so. I put a composition blade on a Dremel rotary tool and went around the inside. Think I taped a piece of scrap wood across the handle to act as a sorta-fence.
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We like shady contraptions to compress car suspension springs here in the OSHA thread, don't we? New video from I did a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=purSYm87Cas
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Telltolin posted:We like shady contraptions to compress car suspension springs here in the OSHA thread, don't we? New video from I did a thing: To be fair. If you don't check for traps and secret doors, when dungeoneering, it is your own fault if you fall into a trap. Not dungeon masters.
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Atticus_1354 posted:Actually, speed is directly correlated with how easily you can spot obstacles, react to them, and stop safely. Sure, that is simultaneously true. In general, people should adjust their speed to one where they can handle any events and obstacles they can reasonably expect to come across, plus some safety margin. The question then becomes "is this gate so hard to spot that it's outside what they should reasonably expect?" It reminds me of root cause analysis in other fields: If users keep making a mistake, blaming the users is not productive. If bikers keep slamming into a gate while going at normal bike path speed, and that doesn't happen elsewhere, then maybe the design of the gate is part of the problem.
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Devor posted:paint camouflage paint on a bollard Now here's an idea we should get behind.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Captain Hygiene posted:Speed, visibility, who can say in the end? The important thing is that they had a video camera installed There is no reason not to slap a reflector if not vibrant paint on a gate if even one person runs into it.
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If one person crashes into my gate and I laugh, it's their fault. If multiple people crash into my gate and I laugh, it's my fault.
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Issaries posted:To be fair. If you don't check for traps and secret doors, when dungeoneering, it is your own fault if you fall into a trap. Not dungeon masters. Are you more likely or not to spring these traps if you are speedrunning? This is contentious apparently.
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Computer viking posted:Sure, that is simultaneously true. In general, people should adjust their speed to one where they can handle any events and obstacles they can reasonably expect to come across, plus some safety margin. The question then becomes "is this gate so hard to spot that it's outside what they should reasonably expect?"
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There was an article along with the video. The house and gate are in the UK. There are just three people in an 8 month span crashing into the gate. It isn't happening every day. The gate is also not owned by the property owner and the municipality wasn't sure who was responsible for opening and shutting the gate. They should definitely make it a bit more visible, but this isn't a major issue.
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Nov 29, 2023 17:23
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I can say with 100% certainty that I would not ride my bike directly into that gate
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I mean, make the gate more visible I guess but it's not going to do anything. It isn't camouflaged at all. It is going to make the follow up videos even funnier. If the 11'8" bridge has taught you anything, it should have been that people fuckup sometimes and just because they're bikers doesn't make them immune to that
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I went and put a big gently caress off reflector on the gate can you all shut the gently caress up now, 75 more idiot bikers immediately plowed into it like moths into a flame
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Konar posted:I went and put a big gently caress off reflector on the gate can you all shut the gently caress up now, 75 more idiot bikers immediately plowed into it like moths into a flame Now I'd pay good money to see a 75 biker pileup on the cam gate.
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hawowanlawow posted:I can say with 100% certainty that I would not ride my bike directly into that gate Flights are so expensive now, is the thing.
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Mr. Nice! posted:There was an article along with the video. The house and gate are in the UK. There are just three people in an 8 month span crashing into the gate. It isn't happening every day. The gate is also not owned by the property owner and the municipality wasn't sure who was responsible for opening and shutting the gate. They should definitely make it a bit more visible, but this isn't a major issue. 3 people in 8 months is a ridiculously high number, even more so because it doesn't look like some kind of super busy road. 3 in 8 years would be 'eh' territory. Still, paint the drat thing in the appropriate colors.
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I think the cyclists were drunk.
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Imagine 4 gates at the edge of a cliff
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Mr. Crow posted:Imagine 4 gates at the edge of a cliff
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Mr. Crow posted:Imagine 4 gates at the edge of a cliff Fewer than three spheres fell off the cliff within eight months. Time is not a major issue.
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The balls are safety yellow and we put up some cones around the cliff. Does that make a difference?
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