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Hello thread! Does anyone have experience with rattlecan matte varnish over Turbo Dork metallics? Does it dull the effect?
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 17:38 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 18:07 |
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Mouzer posted:Hello thread! Turbo Dork themselves have an article covering varnishes: https://turbodork.com/blogs/momma-dorks-miniature-musings/varnish Their Facebook group (Turbo Dorks) is a great resource, with the owners and the chief paint tester/mother of one of the owners posting frequently and answering questions. Muir fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Nov 29, 2023 |
# ? Nov 29, 2023 17:46 |
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Some recent Shatterpoint miniatures. I'm pretty pleased with Darth Vader in particular, though I could see bringing up the highlights on his helmet a bit more, and trying to make the cape more smoothly blended.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 18:31 |
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Muir posted:Some recent Shatterpoint miniatures. I'm pretty pleased with Darth Vader in particular, though I could see bringing up the highlights on his helmet a bit more, and trying to make the cape more smoothly blended. You got to be pretty drat proud of that amazing work¡
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 19:29 |
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Ya those minis are doing a real good job at selling me on ShatPoint. That outlaw posse with Cad Bane looks dope as hell.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 20:15 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:Yeah personally I consider all my various hobby junk "safe" in the sense that I just sort of casually apply them onto the model without worrying about it, and if some gets on me it's not the end of the world, but I still wouldn't put it on me or in me on purpose. So basically the same level of care I'd use if I was cleaning the kitchen, I don't go find a mask and eye protection to clean the stove but also don't take a sip or lather it on bare handed. Like was said earlier you'll never know when you transpose that habit onto a third party technical product that whoopsie isn't safe at all, also I feel like there's degrees of "non toxic" where maybe won't want to find out later what 50 of direct contact on your skin does. IMO the one really, rapidly nasty thing in our hobby is casting resins. You will never forget your PPE after you accidentally get uncured polyurethane resin on yourself. By extension beware if 3D printing resins which are also potent sensitisers and potentially toxic with prolonged exposure (say keeping a printer in your unventilated Goon Cave) I think people are generally good with wearing gloves as PPE but everyone forgets about resin fumes. A little (or even a few months) of exposure is unlikely to hurt, but like licking cadmium paint off a brush it will eventually build to a point where it becomes a problem.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 20:51 |
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Jesus Christ, buypainted uploaded a new video.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 23:11 |
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AndyElusive posted:Ya those minis are doing a real good job at selling me on ShatPoint. That outlaw posse with Cad Bane looks dope as hell. It's a great game to boot. I have a couple to finish up, and I'll have 100% of all mine done! Until I start messing with them more....
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 23:49 |
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ok?
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 23:59 |
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Thanks for the kind words. They really are fun minis to paint, just a touch bigger than 40k, with enough detail to be interesting but not so much that you get bogged down. And yes, the game is a lot of fun too.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 00:00 |
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I found a hilarious set of cheap minis on Amazon today https://www.amazon.com/Wildspire-Minatures-Miniatures-Accessories-Figurines/dp/B095J3PK5Y/
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 00:12 |
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I'm getting a new game, and it's the first one where it will be all resin vs my current plastic ones. How careful should I be about sanding/cutting off moldlines as far as toxicity concerns?
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 00:28 |
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That goblin shaman needs to be moved to unspiration. The totem pole makes it racist as gently caress.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 00:53 |
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chin up everything sucks posted:That goblin shaman needs to be moved to unspiration. The totem pole makes it racist as gently caress. I didn't even know that thread was a thing, yeah that post would've definitely belonged there. Yeah it's a dumb and racist sculpt, I'm not sure the company over in what I assume is China that makes that set would even aware of the connotation of that.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 01:39 |
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Twincityhacker posted:I'm getting a new game, and it's the first one where it will be all resin vs my current plastic ones. How careful should I be about sanding/cutting off moldlines as far as toxicity concerns? Don't snort the dust. It's not cocaine. If you're going to use a powered tool on it wear a mask of some kind. Otherwise I seriously doubt hobby levels of exposure to resin dust can compare to smoking, vaping or living in any major metropolitan area.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 03:23 |
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For those that don’t know him, he was a very popular yt painter before it was a big thing. He hasn’t posted in 8 years. He used to use the airbrush a lot, do lots of undershading and was a huge fan of vallejos metals. It will be interesting to see if his techniques have changed much in the missing decade.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 06:02 |
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Thank you for the context, I hadn't heard of them and watched a few minutes feeling baffled; I'll watch the rest now.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 06:50 |
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Z the IVth posted:Don't snort the dust. It's not cocaine. I've worked in an injection molding factory, so I am familar with that and what PPE is needed. With the talk of how nasty resin fumes are, I was worried that resin itself was overly toxic when cut/sanded, even at the hobby level.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 12:59 |
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It's inert but poses the same threat as any kind of fine particulate that is not biodegradable. You can always wet sand it so you don't have resin dust kicking around on your floor forever.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 13:11 |
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Twincityhacker posted:I've worked in an injection molding factory, so I am familar with that and what PPE is needed. With the talk of how nasty resin fumes are, I was worried that resin itself was overly toxic when cut/sanded, even at the hobby level. It's the uncured resin which is bioactive. Like what the other Goon said the dust is inert and its just a regular airborne particulate hazard. If the minis are 3d printed then you should take extra care if they look wet or if they start leaking when you work on them (pockets of uncured resin). Uncured resin on the surface can be fixed by leaving it out in the sun for a few days. Any contaminated surfaces can be cleaned with IPA. Occasional exposure is nbd - anyone who has false nails will have had similar resin applied to their hands. 2-part casting resin is suuuuper toxic if not fully cured and if your model is still sticky or wet I would dispose of it and ask for a refund. Handle with gloves, wash hands religiously etc etc. Edit - do you make injection moulded toys?
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 13:37 |
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Z the IVth posted:It's the uncured resin which is bioactive. Like what the other Goon said the dust is inert and its just a regular airborne particulate hazard. Thank you for the info! I will keep an eye out for uncured material. I belive they are being industrial 3D printed. It's the just ended Kickstarter of All Quiet on the Martian Front: Return of the Tripods. And I made resturant and food equipment - metal serving scoops ( the handles were plastic, but we did finally assembly of the rest of it too) fries scoops, spatulas, dishwasher racks, ect. The fumes were basically a non-issue, but the items were still quite warm though our heat resistant gloves.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 16:35 |
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Is there a quick/easy explanation for getting the correct amount of paint on the brush for dry brushing? Or what condition the brush needs to be in for it? I love it when it works, but I've had trouble getting the right amount of paint on the brush to do it and seem to end up with maybe too much a lot of the time.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 17:45 |
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Lostconfused posted:Is there a quick/easy explanation for getting the correct amount of paint on the brush for dry brushing? Or what condition the brush needs to be in for it? https://youtu.be/kxuY2NXeI2M?si=doFPiZk_m512wmo4 The Artis Opus guys are really into dry brushing everything (cause they sell a big pack of expensive ones) so they got a lot of videos on drybrushing. Tldr is that paper towel absorbs more water than paint so if you use that to remove paint for drybrushing you end up with chalky texture. Use their patent pending Drybrushing Palette to get the ideal consistency! (Or a piece of cardboard or the back of your hand)
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 17:59 |
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People also make texture palettes
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 18:00 |
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The texture palette thing is a complete waste of time and material. Use some particle board or a random piece of balsa wood that I found in a scrap pile.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 18:05 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:The texture palette thing is a complete waste of time and material. Use some particle board or a random piece of balsa wood that I found in a scrap pile. Do you know what hobby you're in?
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 18:15 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:The texture palette thing is a complete waste of time and material. Use some particle board or a random piece of balsa wood that I found in a scrap pile. Eh, I use cardboard torn off amazon boxes myself but I see the point of the texture palette. You can get a better feel for how much paint is going to be deposited when you drybrush your model because you are essentially drybrushing the texture palette. Theres value there especially if you tend to a heavy hand. You could just have a designated "tester figure" to try it on instead of course (or the tried and true back of the thumb, natures palette), and eventually you should end up more or less having a feel for it, but they arent entirely pointless. I've considered making one out of misprinted figures hot glued into a tub because what else am I going to do with them?
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 18:24 |
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When I switched from paper towels to the random block of balsa wood it's been night and day, then I test how much paint comes off on the back of my hand and it's so much less fiddly than it used to be.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 18:38 |
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Twincityhacker posted:Thank you for the info! I will keep an eye out for uncured material. I belive they are being industrial 3D printed. It's the just ended Kickstarter of All Quiet on the Martian Front: Return of the Tripods. Privateer press (Warmachine/Hordes) infamously sold mass produced 3d prints which were half cured so industrial production is not as reliable an indicator of quality as you might expect.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 18:52 |
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I'm going to be experimenting more with dry brushing using that Artis method as well. The $20 army painter brushes I ordered will hopefully do the trick. I know this hobby is expensive, but I'm not spending $130 on a fancy case. I was thinking of making my own texture palette with a bunch of unused plastic mini parts. The idea being that I would be able to test how much coverage I'm getting before putting it on my main model.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 19:34 |
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Cardboard Fox posted:I'm going to be experimenting more with dry brushing using that Artis method as well. The $20 army painter brushes I ordered will hopefully do the trick. I know this hobby is expensive, but I'm not spending $130 on a fancy case. i saw youtubers doing that with sprue and extra bits and it seemed to be really effective* *i do not want to spend 30 dollars
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 19:37 |
I use a cork & wood coaster that my boss gave me to use up the last of his morale budget a few years ago. I actually use two of them. One's for greyscale, one's for color, and I swap as they get too saturated to tell what consistency I'm getting.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 19:49 |
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Sounds like you can use anything, just need to test the brush before applying it to any model. But if you want to get fancy you pretty much take a piece of surface and make a bit of terrain out of it with a bunch of bits, sand, or whatever you can think of glued to it, or painted with texture paint, and then you prime it black or whatever.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 19:51 |
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I really like my texture palette for drybrushing, it is very helpful for seeing how it is going to look when applied and has saved me from disaster a few times. You can make your own if you have an FDM printer, or just purchase one. I am not adverse to purchasing tools, if you are going to be painting frequently, especially more than playing anything, it makes sense to work towards having the best possible tools.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 20:17 |
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Cardboard Fox posted:I'm going to be experimenting more with dry brushing using that Artis method as well. The $20 army painter brushes I ordered will hopefully do the trick. I know this hobby is expensive, but I'm not spending $130 on a fancy case. You can go to the dollar store and get makeup brushes for a couple bucks that work amazingly for dry brushing.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 20:18 |
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Lumpy posted:You can go to the dollar store and get makeup brushes for a couple bucks that work amazingly for dry brushing. What good is this hobby if I don't have a separate budget spreadsheet dedicated to it. I also purchased a base kit and will be trying my hand at making a desert base for my Orcs. However, that is my final purchase of 2023!
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 20:31 |
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Opposite direction from dry brushing, but the number one recurring frustration I have with painting is: is the paint thin enough, and is there the right amount of paint on and in the bristles. A wet palate has helped tremendously because I don't really need to actively thin the paint down as much if I don't use too much and mic it around on the palate, but it's still a tremendously frustrating moment when I give that first brush stroke on the model and realize "nope, nope, you've messed up". Or, in the opposite direction, I'll accidentally get it perfect and the paint will flow out smoothly in a thin, even coat that seems endless, and I'll know it won't be that good again the next time I return to the palate. I'm trying to be mindful of it, and keep adjusting, but I really wish it would just be right every time, bleh.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 20:32 |
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Lumpy posted:You can go to the dollar store and get makeup brushes for a couple bucks that work amazingly for dry brushing. The trick is to buy cosmetic products like brushes and nail files online and watch a bunch of makeup tutorials. You'll spend less than on specialty hobby tools, learn how to better paint faces, and start gaming the algorithms until they start concluding wargamers are into drag and not 5 hour rants about wokeness.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 21:00 |
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i slay in the name of the emperium
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 21:05 |
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Cthulu Carl posted:The trick is to buy cosmetic products like brushes and nail files online and watch a bunch of makeup tutorials. People at work are confused at how I know how to do manicures now after deep diving into the algorithm once it got skewed by makeup tutorials
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