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Silver Falcon posted:Better than Pokemon, you say? I was already intrigued by this game but now I am extra intrigued. The first 2 DQM games were for the GBC, and were very loosely connected in that the 2nd game (which was released in 2 versions a la Pokémon) is set in the same world as the first and takes place after. The protagonist of DQM 1 is a secret final boss of DQM2. Also apparently protag of DQM1 is a side character in one of the mainline DQ games, and DQM1 is his backstory? DQM 1/2 got 3D remakes for the 3DS, which look awesome, but significantly change some of the gameplay mechanics, such as placing restrictions on the monsters you are allowed to use until you progress the story (the originals you could recruit any monster you could defeat and had the meat to bribe them with). I was not a fan of the changes at all. Then there is DQM Caravan Heart which never released in the US, and I'm not sure if it's fan translation ever got completed. It's gameplay was pretty much there same as DQM 1/2, but I don't think it was tied to the story at all. After that you have the DQM Joker games, which have very different tone, story, setting, translations, and gameplay. I strongly disliked them for the changes from the original games. The translation in particular I found embarrassingly cringe inducing, but apparently it's the style that the mainline DQ games have been using since like DQ4? I dunno, I just didn't like them at all. The protagonists were lame, the story was lame, etc. But I completely acknowledge that as DQM 1/2 were foundational games from my childhood I'm extremely biased. I've only players some of the demo of the new game, but so far the protagonist is much less lame, the premise is better, and the graphics are great. I'm assuming the translation will be grating and dumb, but I'll just have to deal with it.
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Stupid puns are foundational to the Dragon Quest experience
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Was able to play a little DQ:M this morning. First little bit already had some very powerful accents so that's a good sign. Big fan.
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ImpAtom posted:Stupid puns are foundational to the Dragon Quest experience Wait there are people who don't like the puns in Dragon Quest? 
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I don't mind the puns at all. What I don't like are the immensely cringe terms used for the various spells and attacks. Frizz, Kafrizz, Kaboomle, Zing... They're just so stupid, especially since the original DQM games used perfectly normal words like Blaze, Vivify, Fireball, etc. Also, the player being a "Monster Master" is less lame than "Monster Wrangler", and "Recruiting" monsters is less lame than "scouting" them. And then there's just the weird change of "breeding" the monsters to "combining" them.
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Dec 1, 2023 15:38
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Can't think why they'd want to avoid the term 'breeding' lol
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Annath posted:I don't mind the puns at all. Yeah but those are boring as hell.
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Dec 1, 2023 15:42
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I like the onomatopoeia names I just think theyre neat
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What does actually suck about DQ movesets is that there's no indication about which one is better than another. Like, there'll be an attack that will hit all enemies with a kick and another that will swipe at all the enemies with a flurry of blows, and yet another that'll whiplash all enemies or whatever. It's the primary reason I put combat on automatic mode in DQXI, I couldn't be arsed to figure out which was better to use in a given situation.
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Annath posted:I don't mind the puns at all. I agree the spell names are kind of silly but I also appreciate the effort to sound a bit different. Those names stick in my brain better than Bufu/Zio/Agi from SMT at least. And I still can't wrap my head around what the stat boosters are called. As for Monster Wrangler and scout... I think that just might be a you thing my man. Those seem fine to me and functionally identical to the old words.
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Annath posted:I don't mind the puns at all. That is because those spell names are more accurate to Dragon Quest. That isn't a translation mistake. The Japanese spell names are onomatopoeia and puns ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Dec 1, 2023 |
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Dec 1, 2023 15:50
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In a monster RPG I don't really want to fuse or breed them, that's so tedious to me. Just give me monsters I catch and maybe they transform if you level them up. Don't make me work a job.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:In a monster RPG I don't really want to fuse or breed them, that's so tedious to me. Just give me monsters I catch and maybe they transform if you level them up. Don't make me work a job. You can just play Pokemon in that case, there's quite a few of them. I actually like the depth here as a contrast.
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https://x.com/misterduby/status/1730576931169423486?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw
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Waluigi is the better design by far
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Morpheus posted:You can just play Pokemon in that case, there's quite a few of them. I actually like the depth here as a contrast. But you breed Pokemon too? Though I guess there's less need to do that in ScarVi, but it's still a pretty big mechanic.
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Annath posted:I don't mind the puns at all. 
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I’m a bit too epic for games with silly words in them
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Dec 1, 2023 16:06
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Dragon Quest would never have attacks with silly names Like can you imagine an attack called Strash? (Strike + Slash?)
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ImpAtom posted:Dragon Quest would never have attacks with silly names BLOODY SCRYDE
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I do think the names are an issue if the menus don't indicate what they do I also like FIRE2 more than FIRAGA or whatever for the same reason so I might just be a grognard
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hmmm. I hate her
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Is it me or do the graphics in DQM3 look awful, was this orginally a mobile game? How's the gameplay, is there more QOL stuff then the originals? I love me some DQ and monsters, played the DS game to death.
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Dec 1, 2023 16:39
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https://twitter.com/oliemack/status/1730600956637945954 shocking absolutely nobody, it looks like arkham knight on switch suffers big time from lazy devitis 
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I get that they're more accurate to the mainline names. I think the mainline DQ games are full of lame names. Puns are fine, but the puns they use are lame. "Bewarewolf"? "Ratscal"? "Batatouille"? Like, come on, those don't sound dumb to you?
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Dec 1, 2023 16:41
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Waluigi gave Peach a Hot Topic gift card and it snowballed from there.
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do you know any adjectives other than “lame”
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ImpAtom posted:Waluigi is the better design by far Yeah, Waluigi had an excellent design. This one's just pretty boring. Can't say we missed much.
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Annath posted:I get that they're more accurate to the mainline names. What is your opinion on Sham Hatwitch
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It's a game that gave us a monster that's a spear-wielding, dancing cucumber named Cruelcumber. You're getting goofy rear end names. They even have a reoccurring town that speaks on haiku.
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I was not aware Haiku Town was a running gag
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Oxxidation posted:I was not aware Haiku Town was a running gag Me neither, but apparently it originated from III which, yeah, definitely makes sense if you’re trying to do regional accents and run across the problem that presents when you reach “Jipang”.
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Oxxidation posted:do you know any adjectives other than “lame” I didn't want to use "loving stupid". And Sham Hatwich is, uh, I honestly don't know. I guess I would just prefer fewer, higher quality puns, rather than "we're making as many things puns as possible". Look I only brought it up because someone asked about the other games and I wanted to offer my honest thoughts. What's the benefit of saying I think they're all awesome if that's not what I actually think?
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please stop feeding the boomer
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Looper posted:please stop feeding the boomer
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Oxxidation posted:do you know any adjectives other than “lame” I don't
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Annath posted:I get that they're more accurate to the mainline names. Those are all great, actually. (And it was me who asked about other DQ games and I appreciate your insights. We will just have violent disagreements about puns, it seems.) Also I did not know that the spell names are meant to be onomatopoeia. That honestly makes a lot of sense and I'm fine with that. I especially liked Veronica in DQ11 going "Frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrizz" and making finger guns when she casts the spell. Dragon Quest is good.
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Annath posted:I get that they're more accurate to the mainline names. They're dumb but that's the point.
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Annath posted:I get that they're more accurate to the mainline names. Yes, they sound goofy, but that's fine! They're supposed to sound goofy! The names are goofy jokes a lot of the time. Like Akira Toriyama is the main artist, and while he's known for Dragonball Z, he cut his teeth on comedy and gag stuff and in fact Dragonball is still a lot of that, where almost every major character's name is either a goofy pun or a mythological reference or sometimes both. The very visual design is supposed to be a mix of goofy and cool.
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Annath posted:I get that they're more accurate to the mainline names. those are all great, Batatouille especially i bet you dont like the great pixar film as well
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