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Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

what?

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

carrionman posted:

Nah, just super single issue.

i'm glad she's also responsible for solving managed retreat then lmfao

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

just having a little giggle at the idea of the "thinking libertarian to communist pipeline"

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

klen dool posted:

I once failed a warrant because I had stickers that extended more than 2.5 cm from the edge of my windscreen, and I mean by 1cm at the most.

I took a craft knife and an engineers ruler and cut all of them to exactly 2.5 cm. When I took it back they said "you didn't take those stickers off" and I said "measure them" and they did and called me a cheeky bastard lol

Another time I "fixed" a failed frayed seatbelt with a lighter and a black vivid.
Why do you have stickers on your windscreen

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

Charles 2 of Spain posted:

Why do you have stickers on your windscreen

Well mostly because they were cool, and two of them were mandatory

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Charles 2 of Spain posted:

Why do you have stickers on your windscreen

On my car there is one from the glass place that installed it. Another from the mechanic who did the oil change etc. the warrant one. Etc.

kaiwero
Aug 22, 2006
Klen driving around with the classic way to meet girls with your sick car:

"Offers 027 #######"

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/133369391/the-uncertainty-around-how-much-it-would-cost-to-rebrand-government-departments

quote:

The English branding edict would cover “all public service departments”, as promised in the Government’s NZ First coalition deal.

Such an order would require full rebranding operations at at least 12 Government departments.

The clear-cut examples are: Kāinga Ora (state house manager), Manatū Taonga (culture ministry), Te Kura (distance education school), Aroturuki Tamariki (monitors Oranga Tamariki), Mana Mokopuna (recently rebranded Children’s Commission), Te Whatu Ora, Te Papa Tongarewa, Oranga Tamariki, Ōtākaro Limited (Christchurch investment company), Whaikaha (Ministry for Disabled People), Whakarongorau Aotearoa (telehealth operator) and Waka Kotahi (NZTA).

lol winston's virtue signalling policy only covers public service departments (bolded), not te whatu ora or waka kotahi

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

kaiwero posted:

Klen driving around with the classic way to meet girls with your sick car:

"Offers 027 #######"

I was picturing a huge woodstock bourbon banner across the top of the screen

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Slavvy posted:

I was picturing a huge woodstock bourbon banner across the top of the screen

SEX WAX in six-inch letters

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
I'm older than woodies lol

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

exmarx posted:

lol winston's virtue signalling policy only covers public service departments (bolded), not te whatu ora or waka kotahi

What are the others if not public service departments? Presumably wouldn't Winston just say "they know we fuckin mean them too"?

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



wk, for instance, is technically not a public service department but a crown entity - but yes, i agree that the government is very unlikely going to get into the weeds over what is a public service department and what are independent entities owned by the government in order to screw winston out of one of his mandates unless they want another election next year.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

Ghostlight posted:

crown entity

Ahh yup that's what I was thinking.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
it "matters" in the sense that crown entities are arms length from ministerial direction – they're governed by boards instead. for example, the children's commission (as an independent crown entity) generally can't be told what to do.

waka kotahi and te whatu ora (as crown agents) do need to give effect to government policy, so they'd probs need to rebrand if asked – its just funny to me that the coalition agreement didn't actually include them

Lobsterpillar
Feb 4, 2014

exmarx posted:

it "matters" in the sense that crown entities are arms length from ministerial direction – they're governed by boards instead. for example, the children's commission (as an independent crown entity) generally can't be told what to do.

waka kotahi and te whatu ora (as crown agents) do need to give effect to government policy, so they'd probs need to rebrand if asked – its just funny to me that the coalition agreement didn't actually include them

Look those are clearly all important details, but politicians shouldn't be expected to knows details.

It would be hilarious if those agencies said "yes, sure, we'll rebrand when budgets and staff resources allow. At current levels of funding that is expected in 2034".

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

The coalition agreements aren't even spell checked or proof read properly. Absolutely not surprised that they've got some of the important wording wrong.

Spyderizer
Feb 18, 2004

bike tory posted:

The coalition agreements aren't even spell checked or proof read properly. Absolutely not surprised that they've got some of the important wording wrong.

They should really get some comms people on that.

Lobsterpillar
Feb 4, 2014

bike tory posted:

The coalition agreements aren't even spell checked or proof read properly. Absolutely not surprised that they've got some of the important wording wrong.

Strong stable coalition agreement

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









this is a potent slate of dynamic activities that are going to put enzed on the right course, the correct heading

quote:

Introducing legislation to remove the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax

Repealing the Clean Car Discount scheme, also known as the ‘Ute Tax’

Introducing legislation to refocus the Reserve Bank on a single mandate of price stability

Repealing the Fair Pay Agreement legislation

Stopping blanket speed limit reductions

Starting work to establish a new regulation agency to improve the quality of regulation

Introducing legislation to repeal the Water Services Entities Act, also known as Three Waters

Introducing legislation to ban gang patches

Requiring primary and intermediate schools to teach an hour of reading, writing and maths per day starting in 2024

Banning the use of cellphones in schools

Setting five major targets for the health system, including for wait times and cancer treatment

Introducing legislation to disestablish the Māori Health Authority

Begin work to repeal the Therapeutics Products Act 2023

Repealing amendments to the Smokefree Environments and Regulated Products Act 1990 and regulations.

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang
pathetic poo poo. but what's that one hour a day on reading, writing and maths thing? what exactly do they think is going on in schools? is this a culture war thing, do they think it's like "gender talk from 9 to 3"?

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Deep Glove Bruno posted:

pathetic poo poo. but what's that one hour a day on reading, writing and maths thing? what exactly do they think is going on in schools? is this a culture war thing, do they think it's like "gender talk from 9 to 3"?

it means absolutely nothing, but it sounds good to people who hear our schools are falling behind

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

"Introducing legislation to refocus the Reserve Bank on a single mandate of price stability" sounds good but it's probably bad somehow?

Brain In A Jar
Apr 21, 2008

Slavvy posted:

"Introducing legislation to refocus the Reserve Bank on a single mandate of price stability" sounds good but it's probably bad somehow?

Yep! The Reserve Bank’s main job is to keep inflation to somewhere around 2%. One of the great ways capitalism works is that if too many workers have jobs and the unemployment rate drops, then the workers might get uppity and start asking to get paid more, which is bad because it causes inflation.

Ideally, you want a pool of unemployed people at all times to (theoretically) threaten to do the job cheaper than someone else, and that stops workers asking for more money, which in turn stops inflation from happening.

Anyway, the Reserve Bank currently has some mandates applied to try and maintain maximum sustainable employment, eg have as many people in jobs as possible without inflation boiling over. This would remove that so that the bank no longer needs to have any regard for worker wellbeing.

PS: try not to think too hard about the implications of having a system that requires people to be unemployed to function, and how that works with beneficiary bashing policies

victorious
Jul 2, 2007

As a youth I prayed, "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet."
The RBNZ has always had the mandate to keep inflation low and stable (between 1 and 3%, it's currently 5.6%). Since 2018 they have also had a mandate to support 'maximum sustainable employment'. National say the employment mandate distracted the bank from managing inflation. The bank say it didn't make a difference.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

I thought Adrian Orr has complained about the dual mandate too? He's is hardly a socialist.

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

pathetic poo poo. but what's that one hour a day on reading, writing and maths thing? what exactly do they think is going on in schools? is this a culture war thing, do they think it's like "gender talk from 9 to 3"?

It's complete populist nonsense, like a lot of their poo poo. They've got no idea how much time teachers currently spend on those things, no evidence that this will actually improve anything, and no way to measure or enforce it.

It's also a clever bit of policy because it creates the impression that (incompetent/lazy) teachers are the problem. Same as their standardised testing policy, and the exit exams for graduating teachers. Like no one is going to say "actually teachers should teach less reading, writing and maths", and National saying "were going to make teachers do an average of one hour of each" makes people think "oh wow yeah why aren't they doing that already, that's a big problem" (they are, it isn't).

It really fucks me off. Can you imagine them campaigning on a policy like that for literally any other profession? "Under National, doctors will have to follow ministry of health prescribing guidelines"? Like no poo poo, they already are, and when they aren't it's for good reason.

They want to blame teachers for student achievement because otherwise they have to look at things like systemic racism and poverty and drug addiction and domestic violence and all the other poo poo that's going to get worse over the next three years. They're also ignorant of how the education system actually works, so aren't going to help teachers in any real way. They'll just slap on corporate management practices, like KPIs and data-driven accountability.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

https://i.imgur.com/ZRj8ivb.mp4

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

Lol goddamn

Spyderizer
Feb 18, 2004
Pumped hydro is out. I guess their mates are pro energy scarcity.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

They love some oil and gas business so yes.

Luceid
Jan 20, 2005

Buy some freaking medicine.

sebmojo posted:

this is a potent slate of dynamic activities that are going to put enzed on the right course, the correct heading

the ministry to regulate regulation sounds like since prime grift. let's get jobs there.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

Spyderizer posted:

Pumped hydro is out. I guess their mates are pro energy scarcity.

Energy companies make more money from NOT providing electricity! :science:

Free market economics is the most efficient way of assigning scarce resources! So if demand exceeds supply, you can just charge more for the exact same supply! Why would you ever invest in increasing supply in such an environment when you make make more profit for free?!

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Saros posted:

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/09/03/act-calls-for-productivity-focus-for-pharmac/

1) The various pharma funded lobby groups have been bashing on about the manufactured drama around Rachel Smalley and her OIA/privacy Act request. This is now focused on calling for the resignation of the CEO and board chair.

2) Seymour is now associate health minister (for Pharmac). While the minister cannot directly direct Pharmac in what to fund etc they are in control of the board. Seymour removes the board chair and appoints new, probably pharma lobbyist board members.

[Snip]

Pharmac board chair is gone already. Hope you fuckers like paying huge co-pays for your prescriptions.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo
Has appointing pharmac board chairs normally been a political thing or is there some convention about it

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
all crown entity board appointments are political

Spyderizer
Feb 18, 2004
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/503955/prime-minister-christopher-luxon-says-maori-protests-against-government-pretty-unfair

LOL.

Be nice to Chris, he's having a tough time right now and everyone's being super mean.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



kia kaha, hēki pakihi.

Content to Hover
Sep 11, 2009
It's pretty unfair to assume that a party is racist based on it's history, policy and what it says. It would be more fair to complain after the irreversible damage from their racist policy has occurred. Also please be reasonable and pay no attention to anything coming from their coalition partners.

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

Content to Hover posted:

It's pretty unfair to assume that a party is racist based on it's history, policy and what it says. It would be more fair to complain after the irreversible damage from their racist policy has occurred. Also please be reasonable and pay no attention to anything coming from their coalition partners.

it's also fine and appropriate that Maori MPs have to swear allegiance to the king to be allowed to be MPs

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Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Wafflecopper posted:

it's also fine and appropriate that Maori MPs have to swear allegiance to the king to be allowed to be MPs

yeah that got added during the decade of michael jackson mania and it hasn't aged well

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