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Hedgehog Pie posted:I'm always thrown off by what counts as the midwest. I think it always extends some distance west in my head, definitely as far as Montana and Wyoming at least. The thing is, "midwest" is meant to mean more in the middle. Montana and Wyoming are just plain "west" by my reckoning. The midwest is away from the urban centers of the east coast, past the appalachian mountains that fences in the east and can't be easily built on top of, but not quite the vast expanses of emptiness that defines most of the western Great Plains. The western boundary of the midwest is often up for grabs, but I feel like if you look at population density maps, there's a very sharp dropoff of population west of Minnesota, and I think that should be the dividing line. For a long while there was the steadily advancing frontier, but at some point people could just skip through all that and settle straight on the west coast instead. But it's all flyover country if you're one of those people on the coast who mainly only ever wants to visit the other coast. Those are the major population centers of the country, and they've increasingly dominated pop culture in recent decades, reversing the previous trend from like the 50s to 80s where mass media made a lot of efforts to try appealing to less dense suburbs like what characterizes most of the midwest. I think the Simpsons was originally trying to copy that by being set in a small inland town, but as writers churned and the original media that the Simpsons was satirizing died out, the predominantly coastal (elites even) writers gave up on that.
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Yeah, come to think of it, I always thought the closest I'd ever been to the midwest was Denver (for a stopover) but upon reflection it's probably Chicago. The term just has some associations to a non-American that are somehow both broad and specific (purely rural areas that spread out over an impossibly massive area).
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I grew up in Missouri and I would consider that the poster state for the Midwest. It's the gateway to the west and such a mediocrity of a state that Springfield is actually one of it's notable cities. Missouri is mostly prairie though. Still the Simpsons reminds me of home.
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Saw this on reddit the other day: I grew up in IL and there was no question among anyone I knew that we were in "the midwest".
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  "DERN RIGHT, ONE OF ER BEST 'PUBLICANS"  MT. RUSHMORE!!!!! " "CONSERVATION??? PROGRESSIVE POLICY??? FOOD AND DRUG?? (COVID)??? LEFTIST POLICIES????"  "GROOMING???!?! JUST LIKE SLEEPY JOE!!!!!!  "
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Toxic Mental posted:
wtf are you talking about lol
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oops wrong thread LOL whatever, just enjoy the post. that's the lowest point in the simpsons for me
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“I want to see more Teddy Roosevelt’s, and less Franklin Roosevelt’s!"
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Look at that fat oaf
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I just remembered another one of those “could be either option” things like “Have you ever seen a person say goodbye to a shoe?”: In Season 4’s “Marge Gets a Job”, Homer says to blame every screw up on Tibor, “the guy who can’t speak English.” Later, Smithers remarks that Tibor lost the keys to Marge’s new office. Did Smithers also lose them and knows to blame Tibor? Or did Homer tell Smithers that Tibor lost them?
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tibor lost them
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tibor was a viking at losing keys
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I always assumed it was Homer (or somebody at the plant) blaming Tibor, but I'd never considered the alternate theory, and I like it. It's always good when both sides are about equally plausible.
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I wonder if Tibor and Zutroy were friends.
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I do enjoy that bit, cause it's just 2 quick aside comments and then the punchline- Just in and out in the middle of other important scenes.
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just think, if it were modern Simpsons they would cut to some zany Borat type guy being upset that everyone was blaming him for losing keys
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robot roll call posted:just think, if it were modern Simpsons they would cut to some zany Borat type guy being upset that everyone was blaming him for losing keys they would and you would be posting about it here
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I'm surprised they haven't done an episode about Tibor's long lost daughter yet
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Toxic Mental posted:oops wrong thread LOL 
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I always read it that Smithers lost the keys and knows to blame Tibor.
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oh no it is happening again
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First of May posted:I always read it that Smithers lost the keys and knows to blame Tibor.
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emperor tibor
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First of May posted:I always read it that Smithers lost the keys and knows to blame Tibor. Homer lost the keys and blamed Tibor when Smithers asked about it
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I like how his entire article on the Simpsons wiki is this exact argument about the jokequote:Tibor Jankovsky works at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant. He can't speak English. Homer and others blame many things on Tibor. Mr. Smithers had lost the key to a room, which had become Marge's office when she acquired a job at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant, after the family had ran into some financial difficulty, and blamed it on Tibor. Mr. Smithers said "Tibor must have lost the key, but you can jimmy it open with a credit card". This story is debatable for a number of reasons, however, as one could believe Homer had lost the key and blamed it on Tibor to Mr. Smithers. Alternatively still: it could be that any one of the employees lost the key and blamed it on Tibor, as Homer says he regards it as something of a workplace commonality to blame Tibor when things go wrong. Whether or not many members of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant workforce blame Tibor for their own incompetence or if Homer blames Tibor and is too ashamed to admit to Marge he is alone in the matter is also a possibility. Alternatively the person responsible for the key loss could in fact be Tibor himself and as it happens the entire skit exists not as a joke but as a poor segment-to-segment segue. This is, however, an unlikely possibility. also realizing that tiborposting might be an untapped goldmine for the simpsons meme thread
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Toxic Mental posted:oops wrong thread LOL The brotherhood of the spectacles or whatever was turbo-lame tbf.
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dont blame me i voted for tibor
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Saw this on reddit the other day: Lmao at the people in Oklahoma and Arkansas in denial they're part of the lovely south.
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“ Oh no. Promotheus. ” popped into my head and it got me to thinking just how great Jay Sherman’s student film is because of how it’s presented.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcReu_d9h4o None of the imagery in it is called out by name, something I could imagine someone in modern Simpsons would do, even if they were someone who wouldn’t be versed in classic films and pop culture (“What do Battleship Potemkin and The Seventh Seal have to do with being the last man on Earth, Jay?”). I don’t even think modern Simpsons would go that deep and old, tbh. It’s a very classic Simpsons thing to do. Leave it up to the viewer to say, “I get that reference!” instead of holding the viewer’s hand and saying, “The Kool-Aid Man caused global thermonuclear war.” Also, A Star is Burns is a classic Simpsons episode and Matt Groening was a freakin’ dweeb to have his name removed from the episode just because it was a crossover episode with The Critic.
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Uhhhhhhh I had heard talk about Julie Kavner's voice, but I'm in a restaurant while tonight's new episode is on and oh my god is she on her deathbed??  Edit: for reference, I only noticed the show was on during the scene where Marge is drinking. Oh god it's dire GaiaShell fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Dec 4, 2023 |
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I want to hear what Patty and Selma sound like in the new episodes.
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Even Nintendo semi-retired Mario's voice because actors don't last forever.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Even Nintendo semi-retired Mario's voice because actors don't last forever. Chris Pratt's dead??
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FeculentWizardTits posted:Chris Pratt's dead?? That's right, dead serious about going to Nintendo World!
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bucksmash posted:Uhhhhhhh I had heard talk about Julie Kavner's voice, but I'm in a restaurant while tonight's new episode is on and oh my god is she on her deathbed?? lol wonder how bad they’ll let it get before they stop giving her lines or edit her scenes out, although I guess at this point there is no breaking point. Is there any equivalent on another show of an actor being unable to do a role anymore & it being obvious for years but they won’t leave and the show can’t make them? Guessing some soap opera must have had that problem.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:lol wonder how bad they’ll let it get before they stop giving her lines or edit her scenes out, although I guess at this point there is no breaking point. Is there any equivalent on another show of an actor being unable to do a role anymore & it being obvious for years but they won’t leave and the show can’t make them? Guessing some soap opera must have had that problem. king kai's japanese voice actor was on deaths door for most of dragon ball super and they never replaced him despite him sounding dead and not emoting his voice at all
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Even Nintendo semi-retired Mario's voice because actors don't last forever. Eh, no way they swapped him because he can't do it anymore, he definitely can and does in his weird "we can't just fire Mario" job. They just got someone cheaper with a worse contract, who can initiate the Mario voice and do some extra work for way less. Nintendo probably also doesn't want its VAs having big notable names. they got lucky with Martinet just being a nice grandpa Mario. Idk the new Mario va name and I wouldn't be surprised if they just grabbed another next time or in a few games.
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