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Malachite_Dragon: Mar 31, 2010; Weaving Merry Christmas magic

The only thing there is to be jealous about a pigeon is their blissful unawareness of the universe around them.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 14:46

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# ? May 23, 2024 18:05

Leon Sumbitches: Mar 27, 2010; Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

I think you're just jealous. Also pigeons = doves, and it's revealing how the same bird will get talked about so very differently after a simple rebranding campaign

"A white dove symbolizes peace and pacifism
A white dove is a pigeon, you muffugas is bigots"

Aesop Rock, Pigeonometry

# ? Dec 3, 2023 14:59

Drone_Fragger: May 9, 2007

Here in the uk they call street pigeons kebab meat, though these day's due to inflation its usually cut with rat.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 15:03

Elias_Maluco: Aug 23, 2007; I need to sleep

Rubberduke posted:

I would agree with any other animal but pigeons are idiots who suck.

Turn on your monitor

Pigeons are highly intelligent and fascinating animals

# ? Dec 3, 2023 15:05

szary: Mar 12, 2014

Jedit posted:

No? Here's a 1999-series Gambian license plate:

Same ABC1234D format, same colours. And for some mad reason, easier to find on the internet than a Singaporean license plate.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/driver-wipes-out-2-motorcycles-within-seconds-3-taken-to-hospital

# ? Dec 3, 2023 15:08

GotLag: Jul 17, 2005; 食べちゃダメだよ

# ? Dec 3, 2023 15:14

rydiafan: Mar 17, 2009

Drone_Fragger posted:

Here in the uk they call street pigeons kebab meat, though these day's due to inflation its usually cut with rat.

Wot I calls, "enterprise"! Poppin' pussies into pies!

# ? Dec 3, 2023 15:38

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Drone_Fragger posted:

Here in the uk they call street pigeons kebab meat, though these day's due to inflation its usually cut with rat.

post/avatar combo

# ? Dec 3, 2023 15:52

FreudianSlippers: Apr 12, 2010; Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

I loathe all birds.

Never trust a feathered biped.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 15:54

Malachite_Dragon: Mar 31, 2010; Weaving Merry Christmas magic

A distant rumble of Diogenes shifting in his grave

# ? Dec 3, 2023 16:09

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

https://i.imgur.com/dJEVuzU.mp4

# ? Dec 3, 2023 16:19

GotLag: Jul 17, 2005; 食べちゃダメだよ

FreudianSlippers posted:

I loathe all birds.

Never trust a feathered biped.

Check this loser who doesn't think dinosaurs are cool

# ? Dec 3, 2023 16:37

FreudianSlippers: Apr 12, 2010; Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

If they're so cool they wouldn't all be dead.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:23

Literally A Person: Jan 1, 1970; Smugworth Wuz Here

FreudianSlippers posted:

If they're so cool they wouldn't all be dead.

lol pwned

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:29

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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

I think you're just jealous. Also pigeons = doves, and it's revealing how the same bird will get talked about so very differently after a simple rebranding campaign

I had a pet ringneck dove and boy, did that experience drive home that they're just loving pigeons. Cute little guy but, a pigeon. No grace or peace involved.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:31

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

FreudianSlippers posted:

If they're so cool they wouldn't all be dead.

they were optimized for being awesome, not being forever

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:33

Elias_Maluco: Aug 23, 2007; I need to sleep

FreudianSlippers posted:

If they're so cool they wouldn't all be dead.

They arent though? Birds are dinosaurs

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:33

ToxicFrog: Apr 26, 2008

Elias_Maluco posted:

Turn on your monitor

Pigeons are highly intelligent and fascinating animals

I've done bird banding, and most birds we caught with mist nets: extremely fine nets you hang between trees near food sources, practically invisible, that the birds fly into. You can then extract them from the nets, apply the bands, and release them.

Mourning doves (which are just pigeons but boring) are an exception. You catch those by putting a lobster trap on the ground and scattering some birdseed into it. They see nothing concerning about going into the metal cage on the ground and once inside, can't figure out how to leave through the open doorway. Then you just open the top and pull them out one by one.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:34

Samovar: Jun 4, 2011; I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻

FreudianSlippers posted:

I loathe all birds.

Never trust a feathered biped.

...as opposed to a feathered quadraped...?

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:35

Enos Cabell: Nov 3, 2004

Samovar posted:

...as opposed to a feathered quadraped...?

owlbears are good boys

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:41

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Elias_Maluco posted:

Pigeons are highly intelligent and fascinating animals

Behold the work of a highly intelligent animal.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:49

CainFortea: Oct 15, 2004

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

I think you're just jealous. Also pigeons = doves, and it's revealing how the same bird will get talked about so very differently after a simple rebranding campaign

Doves are also dumb fucks.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:50

freeedr: Feb 21, 2005

I have killed dozens of men who dared not to show reverence to my chickens

# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:55

Soul Dentist: Mar 17, 2009

Atticus_1354 posted:

Behold the work of a highly intelligent animal.

Imagine thinking a bird that lives everywhere and thrives doesn't know how to build a safe nest with the minimum amount of effort, and thinking that because it doesn't look like Tweety Birds nest from the cartoon that it means the bird is dumb

# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:03

CainFortea: Oct 15, 2004

Soul Dentist posted:

Imagine thinking a bird that lives everywhere and thrives doesn't know how to build a safe nest with the minimum amount of effort, and thinking that because it doesn't look like Tweety Birds nest from the cartoon that it means the bird is dumb

You don't have to be smart to survive.

Look at goons.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:06

Crescent Wrench: Sep 30, 2005; The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.; Grimey Drawer

Lotta sky rat sympathizers itt

# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:12

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

My daughter just made a short documentary video extolling the virtues of pigeons for a media studies class, and I am reporting this thread to her for retribution.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:14

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Pigeons are the humans of the bird family. They are stupid and ugly and filthy and mean and self destructive, yet they are everywhere and spreading by the day

# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:16

cat posts.txt: Oct 16, 2023

I'm biased because my family in Europe breed pigeons, but it sucks they were bred for hundreds of years then people decided "eh nvm", let them go free and feral, then got mad at them for having the audacity to continue living but. I'm also sensitive and love pigeons

# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:26

Smik: Mar 18, 2014

CainFortea posted:

You don't have to be smart to survive.

Look at goons.

There's a TikTok/YouTuber called "Casual Geographic" who has pointed out that in nature the only thing a species has to do is survive long enough to reproduce in order to get a passing grade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdgPSJxvAYY

# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:33

CainFortea: Oct 15, 2004

cat posts.txt posted:

I'm biased because my family in Europe breed pigeons, but it sucks they were bred for hundreds of years then people decided "eh nvm", let them go free and feral, then got mad at them for having the audacity to continue living but. I'm also sensitive and love pigeons

a cat posted this.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:36

ThisIsJohnWayne: Feb 23, 2007; Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!

Crescent Wrench posted:

Lotta sky rat sympathizers itt

I'll defend land rats too, you crocodile

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:01

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Elias_Maluco posted:

Pigeons are highly intelligent and fascinating animals

lmao I've seen a pigeon fly full speed into a solid brick wall

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:02

Mauser: Dec 16, 2003; How did I even get here, son?!

TACD posted:

lmao I've seen a pigeon fly full speed into a solid brick wall

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:04

Elias_Maluco: Aug 23, 2007; I need to sleep

Well, science says they are smart

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-asymmetric-brain/201907/the-surprising-neuroscience-pigeon-intelligence

quote:

Pigeons can discriminate Picasso paintings from Monets. In 1995, Japanese scientists tested the visual abilities of pigeons in an unusual way: They showed the birds paintings by Picasso and Monet (Watanabe et al., 1995). Pigeons were trained to discriminate between photographs of Monet and Picasso paintings. They had no problems doing this. Then they were tested with other pictures by the two artists they had never seen before. Still, the birds had no problem discriminating between the artworks. Fascinatingly, the birds were also able to discriminate between the works of other Cubist artists and other Impressionist artists. This shows that pigeons can categorize complex man-made artworks and even discriminate between two art movements�something even some humans without a background in art history might have problems with.

Pigeons can detect cancer in radiology images. Another unusual experiment on the amazing visual abilities of pigeons was conducted in 2015: Here, the authors tested whether pigeons were able to discriminate benign from malignant human breast tumors in medical images (Levenson et al., 2015). Human medical professionals go through years of highly specialized training before they can reliably detect cancer. Using food rewards, the birds were trained to discriminate between pictures of malignant and benign tissue samples. Later they were shown novel images from both categories and were still able to discriminate between malignant and benign tissue samples. Thus, although detecting breast cancer in medical images is a task that requires considerable training and is very difficult for inexperienced humans, pigeons showed a remarkable ability to make the correct diagnosis. Of course, no clinic will ever use pigeons in medical diagnostics, but the experiment clearly shows how impressive the visual abilities of these birds are.

Pigeons are on par with primates when it comes to counting. When asked which group of animals is the most intelligent, most people will probably answer primates, the order of animals that contains apes like chimpanzees and gorillas and monkeys like baboons and macaques. But did you know that the numerical abilities of pigeons are on par with that of primates? In a 2011 study, researchers from the University of Otago in Dunedin, New Zealand, investigated whether pigeons showed the ability to learn abstract numerical rules (Scarf et al., 2011). Many animal species have been shown to be able to discriminate between different numbers, e.g., 2 and 20 food pellets. This is an easy task that even insects like honeybees can solve. However, up to that point only primates had been shown to be able to solve more complex mathematical problems like counting from one to nine. The New Zealand researchers presented the birds with sets of visual figures that always contained one, two, and three objects. The birds were trained to respond to the stimuli in ascending order from one to three. The birds could not only do this task, but a similar task with new stimulus sets containing one to nine objects. Thus, pigeons can count from one to nine, just like monkeys � a task that is impossible for many other species.

Pigeons can recognize words. An important part of reading is the ability to visually recognize words (orthographic knowledge). In a 2016 study (Scarf et al., 2016), a research team from New Zealand and Germany showed that humans are not the only species with orthographic abilities: Pigeons can be trained to discriminate words from meaningless combinations of letters. Using food rewards, pigeons learned between 26 and 58 words and were able to discriminate them from 7,832 meaningless four-letter combinations. Moreover, the birds were able to discriminate completely new words they had never seen during training from meaningless letter combinations. This shows that the pigeons had a representation of what a word is in their brains � and that the neural bases of reading, a skill thought to be uniquely human, is also present in animal brains decidedly different from ours.

Pigeons have an amazing memory. When thinking of animals with great memory, most people would probably come up with elephants. But in a German study from 1990 (von Fersen and G�nt�rk�n, 1990), pigeons were trained to memorize 725 random black-and-white visual patterns. The patterns did not share any systematic characteristics, so the pigeons had to memorize them one by one. The animals needed to identify the 100 �positive� patterns from the 625 "negative" patterns to obtain food rewards. This is a memory task so complex that most humans would have trouble with it. Nevertheless, the pigeons had no problems with this complicated task.

Conclusion

Many of us tend to think that there some animal species that are particularly intelligent, like dogs, dolphins, or apes. We underestimate the cognitive capabilities of species we see as pests. Despite their reputation, research shows that pigeons have amazing visual, numerical and memory abilities on par with some of the smartest species.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:16

Tagra: Apr 7, 2006; If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

TACD posted:

lmao I've seen a pigeon fly full speed into a solid brick wall

Grouse are the dumbest birds in existence. There's a whole joke genre called "And that's how I got my grouse dinner!" from accidentally flushing them and having them fly straight into trees, walls, vehicles... whatever stationary object is nearby... hard enough to kill themselves. Their whole survival strategy is "poo poo out billions of eggs and hope some of them make it".

Pigeons are a different order but they're probably not far off.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:19

Captain Hygiene: Sep 17, 2007; You mess with the crabbo...

They've reproduced, they're more knowledgeable about art...what else do pigeons have over me :sigh:

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:20

Inceltown: Aug 6, 2019

Captain Hygiene posted:

They've reproduced, they're more knowledgeable about art...what else do pigeons have over me

They smell nicer and are better at holding a conversation.

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:28

Cythereal: Nov 8, 2009; I love the potoo,
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Tagra posted:

Grouse are the dumbest birds in existence. There's a whole joke genre called "And that's how I got my grouse dinner!" from accidentally flushing them and having them fly straight into trees, walls, vehicles... whatever stationary object is nearby... hard enough to kill themselves. Their whole survival strategy is "poo poo out billions of eggs and hope some of them make it".

Pigeons are a different order but they're probably not far off.

https://i.imgur.com/vNJav1f.mp4

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:40

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barbecue at the folks: Jul 20, 2007

Casual Geographic's newest was about how we've done the noble pidgeon real dirty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3kwJSEdCWQ

# ? Dec 3, 2023 19:45

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