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A bit of everything. Battlefleet Gothic 2's prologue takes place during the fall. "The planet broke before the Guard did" is still one of the absolute best lines 40k has produced
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ZearothK posted:Oh yeah, I was a big fan of the FFG lines going with more mysterious stuff instead of the overly explained known factors from the codexes. Works a lot better for a RPG, specially when running games for people who are deep in 40K lore. It helps that, while tyranids, necrons and traitor astartes are not absent from the expanse, they are pretty hard to find. It gives the random small-time xenos, original traitors and renegade characters, and various no-name Eldar factions a little more space to shine. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Dec 4, 2023 |
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This poo poo feel finished or should I wait a couple months?
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Eifert Posting posted:It's a bad time. Even by 40K standards it's a bad time. The good guys, Chaos, are winning.
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Azran posted:"The planet broke before the Guard did" is still one of the absolute best lines 40k has produced  Arglebargle III posted:It helps that, while tyranids, necrons and traitor astartes are not absent from the expanse, they are pretty hard to find. It gives the random small-time xenos, original traitors and renegade characters, and various no-name Eldar factions a little more space to shine. God, now I want Karrad Vall as an enemy you have to face 
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Buschmaki posted:This poo poo feel finished or should I wait a couple months? The beta is p good but wait until it releases.
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Buschmaki posted:This poo poo feel finished or should I wait a couple months? everything up to the end of Act 3 is probably in a good state, but they've very deliberately only released the 'full' version to the content creators that omits acts 4/5, so definitely wait until full impressions of the entire game are out.
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Buschmaki posted:The good guys, Chaos, are winning. Grandpa will save us all.
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Chaos would be the good guys in any other setting because of how hilariously evil the Imperium is, just make it a reactive force that's working to take the Imperium down because it violates every law of nature, man and alien alike
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Instead the Tyranids are the hero faction by dint on their only flaw being that they’re really hungry.
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My personal pick for 'most heroic faction' are the Necrons, since as hilariously evil as the Imperium is, Chaos is worse- therefore the only faction seriously trying to wipe them out are the most moral 
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Is there any lore about how the two primarchs who've come back so far view the current state of the imperium? The ultramarine guy is like the high lord or whatever now right, so does he give any fucks about what's going on other than "we gotta stop chaos from controlling all these worlds instead of us." As an aside I like the little snippets of lore when the tau learn about how hosed the imperium is. One of my faves was them going "wow you must have great AIs to manage your ships? Wait what do you mean that it's done by people, you'd need like an entire country worth of people to-- wait, its literally that isn't it?"
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CottonWolf posted:Instead the Tyranids are the hero faction by dint on their only flaw being that they’re really hungry. Owlcat will miss a golden opportunity to not have a Tyranid DLC where you can play a Genestealer origin. For the Four-armed Emperor!
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Further Reading posted:Is there any lore about how the two primarchs who've come back so far view the current state of the imperium? The ultramarine guy is like the high lord or whatever now right, so does he give any fucks about what's going on other than "we gotta stop chaos from controlling all these worlds instead of us." The modern Imperium depresses the gently caress out of Guilliman, and it's not remotely what his dad or any of the Primarchs had in mind - but he also knows that, with Horus dead and the other Traitor Primarchs all lost to daemonhood, letting Abaddon & co. win would be even worse, so he's assuming the Imperial regency and trying to steer the ship back into some kind of decent course without rocking the boat too hard and blowing too many minds. I haven't seen too much lore about the Dark Angels guy.
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I don't think Lionel has done much yet. I read son of the forest and it was enjoyable, but it's a pretty confined story.
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Further Reading posted:Is there any lore about how the two primarchs who've come back so far view the current state of the imperium? The ultramarine guy is like the high lord or whatever now right, so does he give any fucks about what's going on other than "we gotta stop chaos from controlling all these worlds instead of us. 
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Further Reading posted:Is there any lore about how the two primarchs who've come back so far view the current state of the imperium? The ultramarine guy is like the high lord or whatever now right, so does he give any fucks about what's going on other than "we gotta stop chaos from controlling all these worlds instead of us." Guilliman was appalled by what the Imperium had become. When he returned he assumed the title of Imperial Regent, meaning he took command of the Imperium, and he openly thought the worship of the Emperor as a god was nuts. So right away he made a lot of enemies despite his status. As his return and the Great Rift sort of coincided, he also wanted to launch a crusade to retake what was lost, i.e. the Indomitus Crusade. This caused a split in the Imperium's leadership as half of the High Lords of Terra and their allies thought to replace Guilliman, leading to a bit of a coup attempt. But since then Guilliman has made various reforms to try and improve the Imperium. And he's come around on the idea of the Emperor as a god of sorts after the Plague Wars. But his protection of Belisarius Cawl is still required, and the Great Crusade-era Imperium Secundus detail of ancient history was recently discovered by one of the Imperium's war press equivalent. So there's about to be another schism I imagine. Lassitude fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Dec 4, 2023 |
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Guilliman is the greatest bureaucrat that ever lived, so if anyone can wrangle it out of the galaxy spanning dumpster fire it is it'll be him.
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Lassitude posted:the Great Crusade-era Imperium Secundus detail of ancient history was recently discovered by one of the Imperium's war press equivalent. So there's about to be another schism I imagine. Bleh, they decided to keep that tie-in-novel schlock?
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I mean, the Horus Heresy series is GW’s biggest lore thing. Everything that happens in those books is canon.
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I have two big problems with those books 1) Some( all?) of it is extremely hack-y! 2) I strongly prefer the Rick Priestley era murky ancient history of the Imperium. The choose-your-own three or four different backstories for the Emperor, unclear characterizations for major political figures, expunged records, and major figures or events who were simply lost to history are all fertile ground for the imagination. A meticulous canon narrative not only in my opinion diminishes the fiction, but contradicts the themes of decline, ignorance, and an unknowably vast and ancient galaxy in 40K.
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Nephthys posted:Owlcat will miss a golden opportunity to not have a Tyranid DLC where you can play a Genestealer origin. There is a mission where you can flee from Genestealers in Rogue Trader. The first time I ran into it in the Beta, I was like "this rules".
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Do the genestealers have sick cars
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Xun posted:Do the genestealers have sick cars the sickest: 
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Xun posted:Do the genestealers have sick cars They drive the coolest type of cars, ones stolen from aristocracy.
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GO gently caress YOURSELF posted:There is a mission where you can flee from Genestealers in Rogue Trader. The first time I ran into it in the Beta, I was like "this rules". On the hardest difficulty mode you should have to execute any character that gets hit by those fellas. Did they get an egg? Did they not? Well, If they did you just doomed 3 + worlds and football to Genestealer incursions, probably hosed the entire sector. Prometheum is the only way to be sure.
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Arglebargle III posted:I strongly prefer the Rick Priestley era murky ancient history of the Imperium. The choose-your-own three or four different backstories for the Emperor, unclear characterizations for major political figures, expunged records, and major figures or events who were simply lost to history are all fertile ground for the imagination. A meticulous canon narrative not only in my opinion diminishes the fiction, but contradicts the themes of decline, ignorance, and an unknowably vast and ancient galaxy in 40K. Yeah, I'm 110% with you here, but GW is using some of their lore to springboard the new Great Rift era-stuff, which has somehow made it kind of easier to read them now (or at least it has for me). I don't know what kind of brainworms I have that makes it that way, but what can I do?  Axetrain posted:They drive the coolest type of cars, ones genestolen from aristocracy. Fixed it for you 
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Keystealers
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 He also evidently had a conversation with the Emperor and concluded there was no value in asking for the Emperor's opinion on anything.
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Lol, Bobby, It takes most folks less than 10,000 years to realize there's no point in asking their dad for advice.
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Eifert Posting posted:Lol, Bobby, It takes most folks less than 10,000 years to realize there's no point in asking their dad for advice.
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Further Reading posted:Is there any lore about how the two primarchs who've come back so far view the current state of the imperium? The ultramarine guy is like the high lord or whatever now right, so does he give any fucks about what's going on other than "we gotta stop chaos from controlling all these worlds instead of us." There's an anecdote where Gulliman sees one of the cherubs and goes "What the gently caress is going on here"
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pentyne posted:everything up to the end of Act 3 is probably in a good state, but they've very deliberately only released the 'full' version to the content creators that omits acts 4/5, so definitely wait until full impressions of the entire game are out. How much game is acts 1-3 though and do they feel pretty good/interesting/varied? Cause like, I like BG3 but mostly for act 1 if I'm honest and that was good enough to still give me overall positive feelings of the game. I'd probably be playing this game slow enough that horrendous issues in the latter half would be fixed by the time I get to them as well.
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Bobby G is trying his absolute best and as one of the only sane humans alive he's starting to realize his absolute best may not be good enough
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Buschmaki posted:There's an anecdote where Gulliman sees one of the cherubs and goes "What the gently caress is going on here" Dark Imperium posted:A soft fanfare announced the intention of Captain Felix to speak with him. A cyber cherub clattered in a clumsy search pattern around the scriptorium on metal wings. Such things were grotesque, techno-alchemy far removed from the purer machinery of his day. The madness of Mars had infected everything. Guilliman let it flap about pathetically, its underpowered ocular senses gridding the scriptorium as it searched for him.
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Lol I already forgot about the Lion coming back
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thebardyspoon posted:How much game is acts 1-3 though and do they feel pretty good/interesting/varied? Cause like, I like BG3 but mostly for act 1 if I'm honest and that was good enough to still give me overall positive feelings of the game. I'd probably be playing this game slow enough that horrendous issues in the latter half would be fixed by the time I get to them as well. The acts aren't exactly equally paced so its hard to tell. Tutorial: Short, couple hours at best Act 1: Maybe 2-3 hours, just setting up the whole premise Act 2: 10-30 hours depending on how much you engage with exploration, side quests, colony management etc. Act 3: 5-10 hours, takes you to a static location you explore and escape from The following acts could be a few hours each or as meaty as Act 2. I would say that in Act 2 you get to explore 60% of the space map, and Owlcat opens up their campaign maps in the later acts by a bit more, so Act 4/5 could still be pretty big into exploration, colony stuff, ship fights etc.
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Eifert Posting posted:On the hardest difficulty mode you should have to execute any character that gets hit by those fellas. You're mixing Genestealers up with Chryssalids from X-Com. Genestealers operate differently and don't magically infect anything they hit with even a glancing blow. DaysBefore posted:Lol I already forgot about the Lion coming back Lion lore was basically entirely self-contained to the Vashtorr campaign (+Son of the Forest... which connected to that), so yeah not entirely surprising it's slipped your mind since nothing new has come out since.
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Genestealers are specifically implanting people with a tongue attack thing, and even then you'd just need to stop them from having kids.
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