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https://twitter.com/rocklegend1203/status/1731644993826349135
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Dec 5, 2023 01:29
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Majorian posted:\/\/\/right? I can't wait for Lindsay Ellis to suddenly make her big Youtube comeback to put him out of everyone's misery.\/\/\/ 4 hours+ cataloguing the uncredited sources for Somerton’s extensive Starscream erotica entries at Archive of Our Own.
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Dec 5, 2023 01:31
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I AM GRANDO posted:4 hours+ cataloguing the uncredited sources for Somerton’s extensive Starscream erotica entries at Archive of Our Own. And finally getting the Loose Canon for Arcee.
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Dec 5, 2023 01:49
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as a haruspex main gently caress Daniil Dankovsky
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Dec 5, 2023 02:17
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I don't get why people have such a hard time understanding what immersive sim means, getting hung up on a literal interpretation when they'll throw around RPG like that means anything at all anymore. It originally meant something based on pen & paper game mechanics, now it means a game with character stats (ie everything). Why don't people whine about that? Imsims are games that focus on providing a narrative that allows for some degree of agency in a broad sense, but a greater degree in moment to moment gameplay. They usually heavily emphasizes first person, real time gameplay (immersive) and a world that has a lot of overlapping, interacting systems that can combine in ways that allow for player expression not necessarily intended by the developers (simulation). This covers Deus Ex, System Shock, Thief, Prey, etc. Also Elder Scrolls and modern Fallout, because they are also imsims. Bethesda has been doing them for a while, Elder Scrolls Arena was a blatant Ultima Underworld clone. Is Skyrim a "good" Immersive Sim or game? I don't know, but it also doesn't matter, it ticks the boxes. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 02:36
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SCheeseman posted:I don't get why people have such a hard time understanding what immersive sim means, getting hung up on a literal interpretation when they'll throw around RPG like that means anything at all anymore. It originally meant something based on pen & paper game mechanics, now it means a game with character stats (ie everything). Why don't people whine about that? no thats not what an imsim is, an imsim is when a game is a bad stealth game, a bad fps and a bad rpg at the same time
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Dec 5, 2023 02:41
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So, Skyrim.
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Dec 5, 2023 02:46
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Youtube recommended a few of Somerton's videos to me a couple times and I tried watching one of them once and it didn't appeal to me because there was something really off about the delivery. Now I know what was the deal. There was this time during a conversation and for an argument I just impulsively recited an author, a few sentences word by word. It was fresh in my mind because I had read it recently. And people were like "wow that's a beautiful point. well said symbolic butt." And at that moment a deep insecurity about not being a native english speak struck me, I realized that I would never be as eloquent as that author. My own words would sound awkward and pale in comparison. OK, that's my personal anecdote to the plagiarism bit, that's my best way of understanding at least part of what drove these people.
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Dec 5, 2023 02:47
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Alaois posted:no thats not what an imsim is, an imsim is when a game is a bad stealth game, a bad fps and a bad rpg at the same time You're not wrong, polish of the game mechanics are often secondary. Deus Ex is a mess, but people love it in spite of that. Those grab bag of mechanics mesh into something better than the sum of it's parts, because of the choices they offer and how they build a story for your character. That's the ultimate point of these kinds of games, they're not really *games*, they're storytelling machines with stolen game mechanics bolted on.
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Dec 5, 2023 02:48
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An immsim is a game that both lets you open doors in more than three ways, and lets you progress by jumping or climbing on stacked boxes.
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Dec 5, 2023 02:54
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No an isim is a game where people leave their security codes on notes lying around.
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Dec 5, 2023 02:57
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SCheeseman posted:I don't get why people have such a hard time understanding what immersive sim means, getting hung up on a literal interpretation when they'll throw around RPG like that means anything at all anymore. It originally meant something based on pen & paper game mechanics, now it means a game with character stats (ie everything). Why don't people whine about that? It's just a really bad and unclear name for any genre. Also people whine about RPGs, and especially "RPG Mechanics" all the time. Earlier this year there was something of a huff about what a JRPG even is. Video game genres, in general, are just kind of poorly defined and categorized. It's pretty fun. Wizardry? An RPG. Wizardry Gaiden? JRPG. The Witcher; RPG. Dark Souls? JRPG. Legend of Zelda: Action-Adventure. Darksiders; hack and slash adventure. DMC? Character Action. Pathologic is an RPG though, apparently.
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Dec 5, 2023 02:58
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Nuebot posted:It's just a really bad and unclear name for any genre. Also people whine about RPGs, and especially "RPG Mechanics" all the time. Earlier this year there was something of a huff about what a JRPG even is. Video game genres, in general, are just kind of poorly defined and categorized. It's pretty fun. Wizardry? An RPG. Wizardry Gaiden? JRPG. The Witcher; RPG. Dark Souls? JRPG. Legend of Zelda: Action-Adventure. Darksiders; hack and slash adventure. DMC? Character Action. Pathologic is an RPG though, apparently. that's right
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Dec 5, 2023 02:59
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GigaPeon posted:No an isim is a game where people leave their security codes on notes lying around. putting the aut in isim
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Dec 5, 2023 03:00
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SCheeseman posted:That's the ultimate point of these kinds of games, they're not really *games*, they're storytelling machines with stolen game mechanics bolted on. what
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Dec 5, 2023 03:00
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trying to define imsim is one thing but how is deus ex not really a video game
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Dec 5, 2023 03:01
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Night Trap is not just a movie!
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Dec 5, 2023 03:01
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Wizardry is a JRPG. Ultima is a JRPG. Dark Souls is not.
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Dec 5, 2023 03:04
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Deus Ex is the greatest video game of all time. Anyone disagreeing is a fool
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Dec 5, 2023 03:06
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SCheeseman posted:I don't get why people have such a hard time understanding what immersive sim means, getting hung up on a literal interpretation when they'll throw around RPG like that means anything at all anymore.
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Dec 5, 2023 03:07
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xeria posted:I only ever watched a couple of his vids before bouncing off entirely but the representation in video games was one of them and the primary catalyst for me bouncing off of his content. Like you said, the entire video read like he played none of these games and was only offering surface thoughts cribbed from forums/fandom wikis rather than anything he invested serious effort into. Knowing now how much he plagiarized - and that he content-mill'd so heavily that he obviously didn't have even a passing interest in half the subjects he opined on - makes my gut reaction make a lot of sense in hindsight. The more youtube content you watch, the more you can tell the difference between someone with serious interest in their chosen subject matter and someone churning content for cash, and he certainly falls pretty heavily into the latter.
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Dec 5, 2023 03:20
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BrianWilly posted:It's bad enough that we don't know if any of the interesting things he's said were his own thoughts (unlikely!). But the wacky lovely thing now is that we also can't even be sure anymore if his worse opinions are actually his own either! Like, okay, apparently his condescending attitude about women was his own bona fide personality, fine, gotcha. But did he actually think Sera Gigglesquee Dragonage was a great gay character? From which poor bastard did he lift that particular take? I agree that a lot of the bad takes probably aren't even his own bad gay takes (because lord knows there's a lot of them out there) but you know what else is 100% for sure his? All the stuff about American G.I.s turning gay because of the German aryan studmuffins because nobody else has said that ever.
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Dec 5, 2023 03:39
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RPGs are also a dogshit name because all games require you to play a role. Immersive sim stuck not just because one influential person said it, but because it succinctly communicates the fundamental design principles of the genre, just as RPG does. Other genre names that are dogshit include Heavy Metal - did you know it's not even a heavier version of Metal and just a progression of Rock? They don't even use heavy metals in their instruments.
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Dec 5, 2023 03:40
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mycot posted:I agree that a lot of the bad takes probably aren't even his own bad gay takes (because lord knows there's a lot of them out there) but you know what else is 100% for sure his? All the stuff about American G.I.s turning gay because of the German aryan studmuffins because nobody else has said that ever. My fav take from that whole thing is that the Americans apparently were not envious of the Russian physique, because their soldiers were wearing thick coats and nobody could see their muscles
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Dec 5, 2023 03:44
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Video games aren't real because they aren't made of video.
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Dec 5, 2023 03:44
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The Saddest Rhino posted:My fav take from that whole thing is that the Americans apparently were not envious of the Russian physique, because their soldiers were wearing thick coats and nobody could see their muscles Also nobody was turning gay on the Pacific front, because I guess James isn't into Asian dudes.
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Dec 5, 2023 03:46
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His Pathologic video is one of my favorites because there is no way I would ever have the patience for that game but watching someone play it and explain all the interesting bits was very entertaining. A lot of youtubers have strong presentation styles but Hbomb is one of the best.
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Dec 5, 2023 03:50
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It's wild to me that he lied about how Neil and Terry got together to write Good Omens when the story is so easily verifiable because interviews with Neil and Terry about how they got together to write Good Omens are in the back of every copy of Good Omens (or at least they are in the edition I have). It's so easily fact-checkable, what even was the point about making up some other story about how they got together???
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Dec 5, 2023 03:53
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Cut from the original video, Todd has one last really stupid thing James said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azIgg6hbYbM I strongly dislike Forrest Gump, and always have, but to say that it's not remembered, as though multiple things didn't become memes and a restaurant named from the movie that has locations in multiple countries
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Dec 5, 2023 04:05
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The Saddest Rhino posted:My fav take from that whole thing is that the Americans apparently were not envious of the Russian physique, because their soldiers were wearing thick coats and nobody could see their muscles I got plenty in subzero winter sounds like a skill issue
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Dec 5, 2023 04:08
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Garrand posted:Cut from the original video, Todd has one last really stupid thing James said.
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Dec 5, 2023 04:11
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more like forgots gump
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Dec 5, 2023 04:20
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neil gayman
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Dec 5, 2023 04:21
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I've never seen a second of James Somerton before today but after seeing a single clip of him I hope that ridiculous turtleneck chokes the neckless gently caress.
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Dec 5, 2023 04:32
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in other news here's a video about chocolate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nBlkk1210 been following this guy for a while, his content on precolumbian america is great and his puns are awful
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Dec 5, 2023 05:04
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SCheeseman posted:You're not wrong, polish of the game mechanics are often secondary. Deus Ex is a mess, but people love it in spite of that. Those grab bag of mechanics mesh into something better than the sum of it's parts, because of the choices they offer and how they build a story for your character. That's the ultimate point of these kinds of games, they're not really *games*, they're storytelling machines with stolen game mechanics bolted on. "Immersion Sim" fans really are the most insane posters, god bless them. They're just rpgs with lots of options. You don't have to try and make philosophical breakthrough that they're actually not the thing they clearly are because you like them a lot.
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Dec 5, 2023 05:20
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fps with rpg mechanics
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Dec 5, 2023 05:21
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Ccs posted:His Pathologic video is one of my favorites because there is no way I would ever have the patience for that game but watching someone play it and explain all the interesting bits was very entertaining. A lot of youtubers have strong presentation styles but Hbomb is one of the best. If you liked his Pathologic video, do yourself a favor and watch Mandalore’s reviews of Pathologic and Pathologic 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeK36g92zjo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7uKUgire7Y I think those videos are a much more interesting look into the game(s).
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Dec 5, 2023 05:21
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Ghostlight posted:RPGs are also a dogshit name because all games require you to play a role. Immersive sim stuck not just because one influential person said it, but because it succinctly communicates the fundamental design principles of the genre, just as RPG does. Super Mario World is an RPG. You play the role of mario, and you have stats that do go up and even down! You also get to control your character build via your choice of equipment and party companion.
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Dec 5, 2023 05:24
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