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Phyrexian Dreadnought when? That's all I need, Dreadnought necropotence/shadow
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Gonna be partying like it's 2020 setting stops for my 3 Wilderness Reclamations to dig for Nexus and Time Warp E: also I haven't been paying attention is this the first time they confirmed that MH3 is going into Arena?
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Dec 5, 2023 01:12
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Eej posted:Gonna be partying like it's 2020 setting stops for my 3 Wilderness Reclamations to dig for Nexus and Time Warp I can't wait lol. Historic Nexus is an all-timer for me.
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Dec 5, 2023 01:12
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Pretty sure when Sheoldred was spoiled people weren't even that high on her because she's arguably worse than Siege Rhino even if the opponent takes 2 turns to remove it and much worse than Siege Rhino if they're able to remove it immediately.
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Dec 5, 2023 01:13
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Other than the legendary lands has Kethis received anything cool in the past few years?
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Dec 5, 2023 01:15
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I skimmed the article what is the difference between timeless and historic? Restrict vs banning? No errata cards?
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Dec 5, 2023 01:17
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HootTheOwl posted:I skimmed the article what is the difference between timeless and historic? Every card is legal including The List stuff like Mystical Archives
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HootTheOwl posted:I skimmed the article what is the difference between timeless and historic? - historic has a ban list, timeless currently does not (all cards on arena are legal) but it has a restricted list - historic uses all rebalanced cards, timeless uses original printings of paper cards and rebalanced versions of digital cards - that's it kalel fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 01:45
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cards that will be timeless legal when the format drops, but not historic legal (other than the aforementioned fetches): swords to plowshares, counterspell, demonic tutor (restricted), brainstorm, dark ritual, lightning bolt, thassa's oracle, field of the dead, veil of summer, ragavan, tibalt's trickery (restricted), land tax, necropotence, wilderness reclamation, blood moon, oko, time warp, mishra's bauble, natural order, agent of treachery, sneak attack, uro, nexus of fate, intruder alarm, memory lapse, once upon a time, spreading seas, and channel (restricted)
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Dec 5, 2023 01:55
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Now give me non-alchemy historic brawl and I'll be happy
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Dec 5, 2023 02:28
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fadam posted:Other than the legendary lands has Kethis received anything cool in the past few years? Rona sees play in the deck. I think Gwenna too?
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Dec 5, 2023 02:55
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fadam posted:Other than the legendary lands has Kethis received anything cool in the past few years? Phyrexianized Jace was a strong get for it.
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Dec 5, 2023 04:34
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Ultima66 posted:Pretty sure when Sheoldred was spoiled people weren't even that high on her because she's arguably worse than Siege Rhino even if the opponent takes 2 turns to remove it and much worse than Siege Rhino if they're able to remove it immediately. I was very high on sheoldred because it was immediately obvious her statline was ridiculously good against aggro even ignoring the ability (you cannot ignore the ability, it prevents you from closing the game). edit: Also it's literally the most played creature right now in standard, while Atraxa is only #10 https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/standard I seriously don't get why people get fixated on a 7 mana wincon when sheoldred is the creature that's actually been all over the place since it was printed. Algid fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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Dec 5, 2023 05:48
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They fixate on atraxa because atraxa sucks to play against and sheoldred does not suck to play against.
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Dec 5, 2023 06:07
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sheoldred dies to removal, atraxa dies to removal but also draws you usually 4-6 cards.
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Dec 5, 2023 06:11
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Have you considered simply winning the game before your opponent gets to 7 mana? "There's a deck that outsizes midrange value piles" is not an actual problem for standard.
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Dec 5, 2023 06:23
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Silhouette posted:loving cowards didn't unban hymn in pauper, but it's "being considered" Hymn leads to so many non games, it shouldn't be legal. Especially in a format with Dark Ritual. I'm super glad they left synth, none of the decks it enables are overpowered other than maybe mono red, and they nerfed mono red. Jeskai affinity has one good result, boros synth is a lovely midrange deck that draws a bunch of cards but doesn't do anything. Also, Synth is magic as Richard Garfield intended it - for one mana, you get to draw 3 cards. One of them is a 2/2 for three mana. Perfection.
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Dec 5, 2023 06:26
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Algid posted:Have you considered simply winning the game before your opponent gets to 7 mana? I don't think it's necessarily a problem for the actual meta, but it absolutely sucks in a way that the other two big seven mana "i win" spells in the format don't, because it COMPLETELY invalidates the entire game before that instead of just being a massive swing in that direction. Someone casts an etali or a virtue of persistance, okay that's a massive shift in their favor to the game but hey they tapped out right, got a big enough board you might be able to swing in for those last few points of damage. That loving lifelink on atraxa means even that's not true. It's have removal that turn AND have a big enough board to win the game, or that's it unless they hella whiffed on the cards they grabbed.
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Dec 5, 2023 06:45
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fadam posted:Other than the legendary lands has Kethis received anything cool in the past few years? Rona herald of invasion and Agatha’s soul caldron
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Time posted:RE: Fadam - I know you dont agree with this so this isnt me trying to convince you but instead just trying to articulate why I like gameplans with discard etc!!!
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Dec 5, 2023 10:06
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Bugsy posted:Rona herald of invasion and Agatha’s soul caldron Oh drat, Cauldron must be pretty good.
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Dec 5, 2023 14:15
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Timeless is basically just Vintage Alchemy, except the Historic cards are the normal versions. Sounds fun, I'll play it in between doing 2000000000000x Triple Khans drafts next week.
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Dec 5, 2023 15:34
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So Historic is Arena Legacy, and Timeless is Arena Vintage?
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YggdrasilTM posted:So Historic is Arena Legacy, and Timeless is Arena Vintage? That's probably the best analogy, yes
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Timeless legit sounds fun, might dust off my old account and see what I can jam together
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Dec 5, 2023 16:41
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Timeless legit sounds fun, might dust off my old account and see what I can jam together Yeah I am very hype for it. The handwringing about the technical presence of alchemy cards is misplaced, I can't think of a single one that's gonna be a factor in the format day 1.
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Dec 5, 2023 16:47
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Judgy Fucker posted:Yeah I am very hype for it. The handwringing about the technical presence of alchemy cards is misplaced, I can't think of a single one that's gonna be a factor in the format day 1. Assemble the Team is probably a thing. But, I don't think any of the specialize or spellbook cards are any good, which is what I would be afraid of having to have in my brain for the format.
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Dec 5, 2023 17:06
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Judgy Fucker posted:Yeah I am very hype for it. The handwringing about the technical presence of alchemy cards is misplaced, I can't think of a single one that's gonna be a factor in the format day 1. I haven't played since they added all that stuff. Honestly my card pool is crazy limited as I'm just not into standard and sorta fell off playing Maybe I'll start drafting again a little bit or something? I'll probably need the wildcards.
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Dec 5, 2023 17:13
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Judgy Fucker posted:Yeah I am very hype for it. The handwringing about the technical presence of alchemy cards is misplaced, I can't think of a single one that's gonna be a factor in the format day 1. The RG card that lets you cascade is pretty broken. Also Oracle of the Alpha will be in every blue deck.
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Dec 5, 2023 17:34
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GonSmithe posted:The RG card that lets you cascade is pretty broken. The high roll on that card where you get timewalk or ancestral seems good, but like.. top decking it late game and rolling a mox seems like a pretty big downside for a 3 mana 2/3 flier even if you high roll lotus late game it's nowhere near as good as just.. having a lotus in your deck in vintage. Maybe I'm really underrating it though 
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GonSmithe posted:The RG card that lets you cascade is pretty broken. I really don't think a 3-mana 2/3 flyer that puts a bunch of ramping stuff into your deck on turn 3 will be a big factor in the same format that has the likes of Dark Ritual, Necropotence, Blood Moon, Oko, etc. etc. but I could be wrong!
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The modern RCQ's this weekend are going to be loving wild.
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Weird Pumpkin posted:The high roll on that card where you get timewalk or ancestral seems good, but like.. top decking it late game and rolling a mox seems like a pretty big downside for a 3 mana 2/3 flier It's not just one of the Nine, it's all of them. Then do that three more times. Then bounce and recur it. Then play either another win con or just attack for several turns in a row with your birds your opponent can't stop because they haven't taken a turn for ten minutes while you're durdling with your deck that is now Mostly Power Nine.
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rickiep00h posted:It's not just one of the Nine, it's all of them. Then do that three more times. Then bounce and recur it. Then play either another win con or just attack for several turns in a row with your birds your opponent can't stop because they haven't taken a turn for ten minutes while you're durdling with your deck that is now Mostly Power Nine. Oh I definitely misread that It must play a lot better than it looks though, or there must be serious draw engines in the format because churning through 50 moxes + 10 lotuses that I'm using to ramp into nothing or whatever feels like you're going to end up just sort of.. doing nothing for a bunch of turns but playing a bunch of ramp. Like every mox you draw late game could've been a threat or powerful answer which would be way more helpful imo Like what makes moxen and lotus so busted is you're using them to accelerate your first few turns into the stratosphere, so drawing a whole bunch of them past T5 doesn't intuitively seem good to me edit: Like I'm imagining the scenario where you've bounced it a few times or whatever, you've probably drawn a bunch of cards so a good chunk of your deck is power nine. Then you cast ancestral and you get like.. 3 mox emeralds while your opponent plays something that can actually advance their gameplan
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I think the implication is, the draw engine is Ancestral Recall and Timetwister.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I think the implication is, the draw engine is Ancestral Recall and Timetwister. yeah I guess that's true, your timetwisters are going to be nutty when you've bounced it two or three times and start playing incredible amounts of ramp into more twisters/ancestrals
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I've found that the kind of deck Atraxa is in usually has cards that feel way worse to play against than the stuff Sheoldred is together with, as bad as Sheoldred also is.
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Weird Pumpkin posted:yeah I guess that's true, your timetwisters are going to be nutty when you've bounced it two or three times and start playing incredible amounts of ramp into more twisters/ancestrals And then you play several Time Walks and attack with several 2/3 flyers, yes. It's an extremely durdly card, and in a format with several other busted-rear end things it isn't the clear best, but it's probably blue's best single-card engine. e: The scry is also important for keeping the amount of "do nothing" mana in check, as well. rickiep00h fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Dec 5, 2023 |
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YggdrasilTM posted:So Historic is Arena Legacy, and Timeless is Arena Vintage? yes. also, explorer is arena pioneer and alchemy is hearthstone
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rickiep00h posted:And then you play several Time Walks and attack with several 2/3 flyers, yes. It's an extremely durdly card, and in a format with several other busted-rear end things it isn't the clear best, but it's probably blue's best single-card engine. makes sense, it sounds like one of those decks that's extremely annoying to run up against in BO1, but not near as strong in BO3 If you cast 2 timewalks do you get 2 extra turns? I've never even thought to ask that question before
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