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So what I’m getting here is that a luxury condo is one that is poorly made compared to a normal condo.
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Yes, except that all condos are luxury condos now (but you can't say that because it's a slur).
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Dec 5, 2023 07:37
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l-word c-words
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Dec 5, 2023 07:39
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I always figured l*xury either meant nothing or had some weird realtor definition like "is in building with at least six floors"
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Dec 5, 2023 07:50
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Slotducks posted:we're so loving dumb oh my god not me, i'm smart. i think trudeau should be prime minister for serveral more years
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Dec 5, 2023 09:02
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I sneak into dark alleys and vote for Trudeau, even when there's no election on.
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Dec 5, 2023 09:11
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ZShakespeare posted:right but how do we get developers to stop building luxury condos instead of normal condos? I think a luxury condo maybe has the stone countertops. Those are still all the rage, right? Or maybe butcher block? While non-luxury gets you good ol' laminate.
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Dec 5, 2023 11:01
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Facebook Aunt posted:I think a luxury condo maybe has the stone countertops. Those are still all the rage, right? Or maybe butcher block? While non-luxury gets you good ol' laminate. Waterfall countertops, you continue the stone down one or both sides of an island. It's future proofed against the condo falling over 90 degrees in a very specific direction.
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Dec 5, 2023 12:48
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I consider the most "luxury" feature of my (rented) condo to be the wrap-around balcony, that poo poo saved me during covid lockdowns.
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Dec 5, 2023 14:09
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infernal machines posted:tbh, i'd be chuffed if they just stopped building condos. all the downsides of a rental, with all the expense of ownership. build rental apartments or build coops but gently caress off with this building housing so that the middle class can own it to rent to me bullshit Our whole economy is built around letting better off working class people play act at being ownership class. Bully your employees (service staff and public workers) like a boss Manage your RRSP and TFSA private investments like a fund manager Can't afford a whole building but want to be a landlord? No problem! Just bundle your unit into a property management scheme
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Dec 5, 2023 15:06
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it's called wealth generation. don't think too hard about the "fuel" in this metaphor
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Dec 5, 2023 15:12
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fisting by many posted:I mean sure but in your scenario the plebs are all fighting over the leftover 50 year old lowrises. New and (real) affordable housing needs to be built, it's a major systemic problem if developers are only incentivized to build luxury condos. Sure but I'm operating in a scenario where all levels of government refuse to build/fund the 10x more building starts that are currently required. The (temporary?) removal of GST on new rental building construction is good and sounds like it should move some projects from non-viable to doable but it still feels like loving around on the fringes. All this messing about to try and incentivize the private sector to do what you want is nice and all but they could also just do it themselves for god's sake. In either case there's still a backlog of decades worth of missing buildings and there's simply no way around that except time. In an ideal world there should be piles of 30 year old, 20 year old, and 10 year old low/mid rises aging into affordability as the wealthier people move to the new 'luxury' condos, but we don't have that. I would like to sign on to abolishing condos also. I don't really believe anyone actually wants to buy into these things, it's just the only option.
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:not me, i'm smart. i think trudeau should be prime minister for serveral more years ha i know it's just that it's pierre driving this? like people are actually buying his smarmy rebrand how sad
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Dec 5, 2023 15:13
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Slotducks posted:ha i know the material conditions that i live under keep getting worse so every 8-10 years we should replace the guys running things with the guys who made the material conditions worse before them. this has nothing to do with the names or policies or branding of any of the people involved
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Dec 5, 2023 15:15
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A condo is where the tax-free workers live. A l*xury condo is where the small business entrepreneur landlord lives. i can’t see how giving developers a tax break is good policy. Its not going to work. Tax breaks and expecting the private sector to fix the problems is a win for the Cons. Much like defunding the CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbc-radio-canada-layoffs-budget-1.7048530
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Dec 5, 2023 16:03
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jsoh posted:the material conditions that i live under keep getting worse so every 8-10 years we should replace the guys running things with the guys who made the material conditions worse before them. this has nothing to do with the names or policies or branding of any of the people involved There is a bit of oafish reaction built in, because class consciousness was killed a generation ago in this country. The whole trucker thing showed that.
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Dec 5, 2023 16:58
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Condos wouldn’t be so bad if they made them like they made apartments 40-60 years ago: big enough to have a family in. My old rental in university was cheap and basic but massive compared to the tiny shittily designed places I moved into when I got a “real” job. But they had nice counter tops! tl;dr if your old place has laminate and parquet, it’s probably better than a “luxury” condo
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Dec 5, 2023 17:40
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a primate posted:Condos wouldn’t be so bad if they made them like they made apartments 40-60 years ago: big enough to have a family in. mila kunis posted:I live in an old apartment building from the 70/80s and its soundproof as hell, well heated and spacious. If I could afford to buy my unit, I would. The cramped and lovely conditions in modern developments that make them undesireable is another point against the 'just deregulate and leave it to the market' YIMBYs.
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Dec 5, 2023 17:48
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id happily stay renting this apartment for the rest of my life instead of experiencing 'the pride of home ownership' if I had any security re the landlord being able to kick me out on a whim, or having any financial security in my old age lol
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Dec 5, 2023 17:50
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mila kunis posted:id happily stay renting this apartment for the rest of my life instead of experiencing 'the pride of home ownership' if I had any security re the landlord being able to kick me out on a whim, or having any financial security in my old age lol i bought a condo and am now in hell learn from my mistakes, I’m your ghost of Canadian RE future
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Dec 5, 2023 18:02
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mila kunis posted:id happily stay renting this apartment for the rest of my life instead of experiencing 'the pride of home ownership' if I had any security re the landlord being able to kick me out on a whim, or having any financial security in my old age lol i rent the ground floor of what used to be a single family home in an immigrant neighbourhood in toronto, and i feel the same
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Dec 5, 2023 18:04
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theoretically the point of home ownership is that you own your home and don't have to throw a big chunk of your paycheck into a bottomless pit every month to not be homeless but with how mortgages work now you're basically paying for the privilege of doing your own maintenance
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Dec 5, 2023 18:06
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I'd love living in an apartment if they would enforce their quiet hour rules and not do that lovely "renting discount" of 50-80% which they can take away at any time.
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Dec 5, 2023 18:14
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I hate apartment living. We lived in an apartment that was decently-priced (at first) and within walking distance of several grocery stores and a mall, and a short bus trip to my work. The building went through 5 residential managers in about 3 years, with the second last one being a pothead who smoked in her apartment during the day, and the last one being married to a massive hockey fan who didn't understand that not everyone in the building needed to know each and every time the Jets scored a goal. Who the gently caress do you file noise complaints with when the person you're supposed to complain to is the source of the noise?
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Dec 5, 2023 18:29
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CLAM DOWN posted:l-word c-words no vietnamese ever called my home a luxury condo
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It's killing me that a modest working class home then would be a good get on professional wages now    A semi or townhouse with a yard in Toronto on one salary.
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linoleum floors posted:Kids are cheap labour but unnecessary so long as we keep importing foreign workers Only if they actually pay into social services and are taxed. Even then immigration alone isn't enough to cover the slow loss of young workers on which the whole social welfare state depends. Pretty much every country has figured this out since the 1970s, this isn't a new problem but boy did every political group in charge over the last 50 years not want to deal with it!
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Dec 5, 2023 19:58
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Listen, we simply dont have the money to shelter and feed the children, we need all the money to buy F35s so we can bomb people in the future
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Frosted Flake posted:It's killing me that a modest working class home then would be a good get on professional wages now there was a row of these in my old neighbourhood. 10 years later one remains, literally surrounded by condos, Pixar's Up style  they were the lone holdout. the condo was still built with 2nd floor units having a view directly blocked by their roof recently sold for 2.5 million
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Frosted Flake posted:It's killing me that a modest working class home then would be a good get on professional wages now i swear ive been to these exact houses its loving killing me i cant remember where it was i thought it was emerson ave but thats the wrong side of the street for those numbers
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RBC posted:i swear ive been to these exact houses its loving killing me i cant remember where it was 208 Claremont Street.
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I would simply escape market forces by moving into co-op housing
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Frosted Flake posted:208 Claremont Street. lol. i walk past that place a few times a month. tbh, this whole neighbourhood is variations on that design, including the house i live in.
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Dec 6, 2023 01:07
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old houses rule. Why cant we just use the old floor plans but better materials.
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open concept my entire rear end in a top hat
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increased density, mostly. a lot of those houses around here are actually modified into multi-unit dwellings, the one i live in has three apartments, one per floor. that said, you can build a 100+ unit building in the footprint of six of them, so there's no comparison.
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Suplex Liberace posted:open concept my entire rear end in a top hat in a thought bubble, floating above the goatman during his work day
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Suplex Liberace posted:open concept my entire rear end in a top hat
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Walls and doors ftmfw
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Suplex Liberace posted:old houses rule. Why cant we just use the old floor plans but better materials. They've done this for some historical buildings. Original  Rebuilt  I think it's a fantastic idea, and prevents every old neighbourhood from turning into modernist cubes.
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