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DACK FAYDEN posted:it isn't imploring the listener to "be good for goodness' sake" (i.e. because being good is its own reward) forget it Jake, it's English
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DACK FAYDEN posted:it isn't imploring the listener to "be good for goodness' sake" (i.e. because being good is its own reward) Yeah, it's pretty clearly supposed to be funny, in that old-timey "We haven't invented comedy yet" kind of way.
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Christmas in general is about spreading joy and cheer to everyone and even jerks are a little nicer as the Christmas spirit hits them. Almost all Christmas media is about loving each other. Even that musical genius and noted wife-beater John Lennon got in on the action before being assassinated by John Wilkes Booth
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I'm surprised Mormons, like The Killers, even have Christmas. I thought American Space Jesus was surely born on some other day, probably the Fourth of July, but no they just have normal Christmas. Which is sorta disappointing. Also the best Christmas song is Christmas in Prison by John Prine.
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Sir Lemming posted:It's Ukrainian, so it's positively jolly by their standards. Ukrainian (and other Slavic cultures) carols have 2 main groups: New Years songs labelled as shchedrivka (which contains the title of the OG carol Shchedryk, translating as "Bountiful Evening") that don't have anything to do with the birth of Christ, and kolyadka that would be your actual carols talking about the birth. The darker sound compared to our western ears is just a thing with Slavic music, somewhere in the past 500-600 years, everyone east of Germany seemed to settle on minor keys sounding beautiful instead of sad. My expertise is more in Ukrainian music than Czech, Polish, or Russian, so I can't speak to an overarching theme for the content of their carols, but Ukrainian Christmas carols focus a lot on what Jesus will become. So, while a lot of the carols westerners are familiar with focus specifically on all of the regalia and pomp of the birth in Bethlehem (O come all ye faithful, O little town of Bethlehem, Away in a manager, O holy night, etc.) Ukrainian carols will almost always have a verse or two mentioning some variation of "when you grow up, you will sacrifice yourself to save us and that is a good thing". Also there are a lot more carols that focus on Mary, but that is a difference between Western Christianity and Eastern Christianity that I am not as well educated in
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The best Christmas song IMO is Ben Caplan's version of O Holy Night purely because he removes every non-lyrical hint it may be a Christmas song. Christmas music is the absolute worst. https://youtu.be/7PdZGY_JDnQ?si=x7HNwfqW2K0Ed_zy
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IshmaelZarkov posted:The best Christmas song IMO is Ben Caplan's version of O Holy Night purely because he removes every non-lyrical hint it may be a Christmas song. Christmas music is the absolute worst. Automatically better than most versions on the simple merit of including the really obviously anti-slavery second verse. But this arrangement rips, thanks for the link
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Baron von Eevl posted:Little Drummer Boy is absolutely the worst one though, like can we all agree on that? It's basically the theme song to Luanne's Manger Babies puppet show from King of the Hill. I do not disagree with you fundamentally, but there is exactly one (1) good version of that song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-vwVrwd3s It's by a Christian 80's rock band, so I apologize in advance, but I stand by it.
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FreudianSlippers posted:I'm surprised Mormons, like The Killers, even have Christmas. I thought American Space Jesus was surely born on some other day, probably the Fourth of July, but no they just have normal Christmas. Mormons didn't retcon the Bible, they just made like a Further Adventures of Jesus thing
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Stayne Falls posted:I do not disagree with you fundamentally, but there is exactly one (1) good version of that song: I like this whole album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IScpH3jXtEA
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I had a brain fart and thought you were talking about the Hunters and Collectors song for a hot second but that's actually called Do You See What I See HUNNNNAS
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oldpainless posted:Even that musical genius and noted wife-beater John Lennon got in on the action before being assassinated by John Wilkes Booth Musical genius my rear end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIVNmhMkNMA
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Dave Syndrome posted:I wonder how well "Patton Oswalt killed his wife" jokes like this one will age. Why do people think that he killed his wife?
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hallo spacedog posted:Why do people think that he killed his wife? He married his current wife before the prescribed mourning period ended, and never did wear sackcloth and ashes in public to display his grief to the priestly class and the Emperor as the strictures of propriety demand.
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I was talking about the dave chappelle thing, I have no opinions re: his wife
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hallo spacedog posted:Why do people think that he killed his wife? It's a really dumb meme based on him getting re-married a bit over a year later and, as the Lemniscate Blue said, that's been judged as insufficient time for him to move on. I don't have strong opinions on Patton Oswalt himself, but he spent the months after his wife died finishing her passion project and publicly mourned her, it's just kind of a weird moralistic thing that's been turned into a meme.
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Joan Jett’s cover of little drummer boy was always a fave, as a tiny child my record club version had a literal sticker with the track listing, so I assumed for ages that there was some legal shenanigans that got another some pulled. Thinking Van Katz Dance. But apparently no per Wikipedia? Ah well, good song though, and I really like the drums on this version after listening to a few: https://youtu.be/-GrNeSWhU98?si=PfXzZsnveeSaJ9sO
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Also she wrote true crime books, transitively making Patton a murder expert.
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Bootsy Collins released a Christmas album several years ago and that's really the only Christmas music you or anyone else should listen to.
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O Holy Night by any of the talented opera singers is just amazing when you hear the pure power of the song and I will not move from this position. Blue Christmas is also kinda bad but its Elvis so I give it a pass when it made it into the Christmas list.
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doctorfrog posted:It's just a shame that coolpunk didn't just kill off Christmas music during its height Related, Chowder Man’s Christmas Pain In Christmas Town is genuinely my favorite Christmas song https://youtu.be/ftEz-m0kEWA?si=RifFMtHbNA7DXauq
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Since this has taken a “good Christmas song” derail, I might as well continue it. https://youtu.be/fCNvZqpa-7Q?feature=shared It’s weird thinking of Christmas being a summer holiday but it’s a really nice song.
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In the spirit of this thread Most of the Twisted Christmas songs https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbvs_hsdHbxVMf4fsr0byW0bUd7Ym8zJm&si=Y4EaKaBZKPhcJsxb And firmly from the 00s William Hungs Christmas album https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l1VMa2yk-Ai4fli9MbCA7tZcEULEK-IQM&si=_UIKkJfMhKkoE2r6
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Joe Pesci NWS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawOAtZcW9o
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Dave Syndrome posted:I wonder how well "Patton Oswalt killed his wife" jokes like this one will age. Here’s something that will age strangely: In the 2009 series Dollhouse, which absolutely did not age well, Patton Oswalt plays a rich guy who hires women to pretend to be his wife, who died suddenly while he was at work. It’s almost as weirdly prescient as the Lone Gunmen pilot where they avert 9/11. And if we’re going to accuse actors of killing their wives, take a look at William Shatner’s last wife.
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I AM GRANDO posted:In the 2009 series Dollhouse, which absolutely did not age well It had already aged badly when it was first released. People were looking at at sideways at the time.
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The Lone Badger posted:It had already aged badly when it was first released. People were looking at at sideways at the time. There was a tweet from like 2010 about Dollhouse that’s gone now that was something like “hey honey, come read my script about people who run a place where sex slaves suck and gently caress all comers!” And it aged really well because Joss Whedon hadn’t even dumped his wife yet, let alone blown up his entire career and life.
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Stayne Falls posted:I do not disagree with you fundamentally, but there is exactly one (1) good version of that song: Hell yeah, I've always loved this one. It's so ridiculously over-the-top that I just can't deny its power. "Me and my DRUUUUUUUUM, I'll PLAYYYY for YOUUUUU~" It's also hard to go wrong with the various versions that are just like "We have a good drummer and he's doing drum solos, get it?" i.e. Ringo, or The Bird And The Bee ft. Dave Grohl. It's kinda predictable I guess, but I don't hate it. I could go on and on and on about Christmas music, I honestly love a lot of it, but I also hate a lot of it, because there's tons of the stuff.
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Do you see what I see is a great Christmas song because it makes me think of Gremlins
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I AM GRANDO posted:There was a tweet from like 2010 about Dollhouse that’s gone now that was something like “hey honey, come read my script about people who run a place where sex slaves suck and gently caress all comers!” And it aged really well because Joss Whedon hadn’t even dumped his wife yet, let alone blown up his entire career and life.
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Randalor posted:While we're on the Christmas music tangent, am I the only one who finds the music for Carol of the Bells sounds... I dunno... kinda sinister for a Christmas song? You’ve just never heard the right arrangement, that’s all.
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I liked Dollhouse overall and I think the bits I did like (the corporate mind control apocalypse thriller) were the parts Whedon didn't want to do.An Interview with Whedon posted:"When you’re dealing with fantasies, particularly sexual ones, you’re going off the reservation," Whedon said. "You’re not going to be doing things that are perfectly correct. It’s supposed to be about the sides of us that we don’t want people to see…. The idea of sexuality was a big part of the show when it started and when that fell out, when the show turned into a thriller every week, it took something out of it that was kind of basic to what we were trying to do." The whole interview read badly at the time and is  now.
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Dollhouse is an incredible window into a really broken guy telling on himself, while his employees struggle mightily to make something worthwhile out of his bullshit, and they almost do it too.
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I remember one of the women interviewed in that New York Magazine article said that Whedon would have her act out sex zombie Dollhouse poo poo when they had sex.
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I AM GRANDO posted:And if we’re going to accuse actors of killing their wives, take a look at William Shatner’s last wife. gently caress the Whedon discussion, I feel like this needs to be expanded upon
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Leave posted:gently caress the Whedon discussion, I feel like this needs to be expanded upon He talked about writing a comedy/farce about her death not long after she died, but that could be chalked up to the irrationality of grief. It was probably in bad taste to bring up. She was like 30 years younger than him and was found drowned one day in the backyard pool after going swimming after taking a bunch of sedatives with wine.
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I AM GRANDO posted:
A piece of improv I'll never forget is Paul F. Tompkins (as Cake Boss) talking about the urban legend about a ghost in Three Men and a Baby. "Turns out it was just a carboard cutout - of William Shatner drowning his wife"
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