Crazypoops posted:

I would like to burn the poop

Al-Saqr posted:

Financial Times, citing an Israeli official: We received $320 million in American aid for anti-tunnel technologies, it was useless

https://twitter.com/ajarabic/status/1732044657075384510?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

30.5 Days posted:

To be perfectly clear, that is more than the number of confirmed deaths of men in Gaza. They're doing "military age male" poo poo where they're saying "yeah we killed 10,000 completely innocent women, children, and elderly as an accidental oopsie, but wouldn't you know it, we didn't kill a single innocent [[MILITARY AGE MALE]]"

(number of dead & number of women and children dead from here)
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/despite-gaza-death-toll-soaring-us-unlikely-rethink-weapons-supplies-israel-2023-12-05/

Al-Saqr posted:

aljazeera translated an incredible interview with an israeli retired general, this video is out of date because it happened in the first days of the prisoner exhange and since then israel abandoned the majority of their posititions in Gaza city, but fundamentally his point is that israel is losing the war, not achieving any of its military goals and has not even touched the capabilities of hamas at this point.

sadly i have to go to work so i cant translate the arabic line by line right now, so if any of you who know hebrew want to take a crack at it it would be great

https://twitter.com/aja_egypt/status/1732253733126336554?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Ytlaya posted:

This is part of why I'm kind of cautious about interpreting some of the polling too optimistically, because I think a lot of it is based around the Netanyahu = Trump understanding among liberals. I think if Netanyahu were replaced with a "good polite liberal" that more liberals would be defending Israel.

Amal Saad posted:

The belief that Israel's war crimes in Gaza and the West Bank today are a result of "the most extreme and far-right government in Israel's history" is a figment of the liberal imagination. Decades of colonial rule by Israel's political left and centre belies this myth.

The main architect of the 1948 Nakba when 800,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed, was David Ben Gurion, who led the Mapai (Workers' Party of Israel) before it merged with the Labor Party in 1968. For Ben Gurion, Socialism and Zionism were two sides of the same coin.

Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, also a member of Mapai and founder of the Labor Party, prosecuted the 1967 Six-Day War (al-Naksa) which resulted in Israel's occupation of Arab and Palestinian lands including the West Bank (including East Jerusalem), Gaza, Sinai and the Golan.

Shimon Peres, who was a Labor PM, oversaw Israel's occupation of Lebanon including Beirut, in the mid-1980s. Again in 1996, he commandeered Israel's "Operation Grapes of Wrath" invasion which displaced tens of thousands and massacred 106 civilians at a UN camp in Qana.

Labor PM and Nobel Prize-winning "peacenik", Yitzak Rabin, was behind Israel's 1993 invasion of Lebanon, "Operation Accountability". According to HRW, the aim was "to effect a massive displacement of the civilian population in south Lebanon" as a means of pressuring Lebanon.

The 2006 July War was led by leader of the liberal centrist Kadima, Ehud Olmert, and Amir Peretz, head of Labor, was Defense Minister at the time. Olmert also oversaw Israeli 2008 invasion of Gaza, "Operation Cast Lead", with Labor leader, Ehud Barak, as his Defense Minister.

The list of invasions doesn't include the left's countless other crimes and abuses. The main difference between Israel's left and right is that the former "kills the victim and cries at his funeral" as the Arab saying goes, while the latter kills the victim and brags about it.

Al-Saqr posted:

"private shlomo what are you doing"

"DUUuuuuUuh you sed dat Khamas were ghosts, Boss! so im fixin it!"


https://twitter.com/me_observer_/status/1732115429114433952?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Al-Saqr posted:

"private shlomo what are you doing"

"DUUuuuuUuh you sed dat Khamas were ghosts, Boss! so im fixin it!"


https://twitter.com/me_observer_/status/1732115429114433952?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Sancho Banana posted:

This is Itzhak Brick

Sancho Banana posted:

This is Itzhak Brick, who's been critical of the IDF's performance for a long time. He practically prophesied October 7th last year and called out the military's ground forces for being trash.

I don't have time to do it exactly line by line right now but he basically says:

* We've been inside Gaza for quite some time.
* We control about 80% of the north.
* We're still far from our goal of destroying Hamas and the PIJ due to the tunnels built underneath the strip
* The numbers of enemy casualties being reported are probably not quite accurate, but even if the IDF killed a few thousands, there's still tens of thousands more underground, which is the main issue
* If we still haven't gotten to most of the guys in the tunnels, then we're clearly very far from finishing this
* Just yesterday [at the time the interview was done] Hamas released hostages inside in an area that the IDF "controls", surrounded by Gazans, despite our boasting about the situation being under control
* Khan Younis will be even more difficult to crack
* At the moment, it's being estimated that the IDF hit 20% of the tunnels, but by "hit" we mean that the engineer corps blow up the shafts, we don't want to send soldiers in there to clear them out because we don't want to risk people and they could be booby trapped
* let's say we blew up 200 or 300 of these - they've got thousands more exits to get out of
* In conclusion, once again, we're very far from our objective

Real Mean Queen posted:

It seems weird to estimate a percentage of tunnels hit when you like, by definition, don't know where they are or how many you're dealing with

Frosted Flake posted:

Reddit was always stupid but was it this casually evil?

Frosted Flake posted:

Reddit was always stupid but was it this casually evil?

Frosted Flake posted:

Reddit was always stupid but was it this casually evil? Wrapping my head around this top voted exchange on worldnews, where Israel has reported 15 000 killed, and redditors are taking them at their word that 5000 were Hamas:

“Former grunt boo boo bandager here:

The West likes to put a pretty bow on war, but the truth is that you just don't know what the suspicious dude on the road is up to.

I've seen good guys get mistaken for bad, bad guys mistaken for good, and just straight killings that don't make any sense, but those got quickly fuzzied to not end up on the news.

What normal people need to understand in a hostile environment like this, is that you don't know poo poo about gently caress, and everyone's a half second away from being killed on both sides for different reasons. Mistakes are part of the fog of war.

Look at Ukraine, both sides regularly shoot at their own men because everyone is blind when the other guy can end you in an instant.

Basically, war is hell, more than most people can even imagine.”

“if you take into account the fact that hamas terrorists don't wear uniforms (not because they don't have them, as we've seen in 7/10) and that they've used UN ambulances to move around than it's really a coin flip for every male.. sadly, they also don't really have a minimal age (as seen in the west bank and also occasionally in gaza's checkpoints)..

i can't imagine the speed of the decision making needed to fight there”

Imagine almost getting the point but the. just accepting the company line away, in both cases. The former medic (loving babytalk MOS?) particularly just casually mentions seeing war crimes but then ends on “you know, the fog of war. Who can say who’s at fault? “

The second guy is just malicious “Hamas doesn’t wear uniforms” “Hamas uses ambulances”, it’s the upvotes for that which kill me.

Frosted Flake posted:

Reddit was always stupid but was it this casually evil?

Sancho Banana posted:

Alright, by now, the IDF stealing corpses isn't a one-off thing, it's a pattern. What the hell are they doing?

Frosted Flake posted:

Reddit was always stupid but was it this casually evil? Wrapping my head around this top voted exchange on worldnews, where Israel has reported 15 000 killed, and redditors are taking them at their word that 5000 were Hamas:

“Former grunt boo boo bandager here:

The West likes to put a pretty bow on war, but the truth is that you just don't know what the suspicious dude on the road is up to.

I've seen good guys get mistaken for bad, bad guys mistaken for good, and just straight killings that don't make any sense, but those got quickly fuzzied to not end up on the news.

What normal people need to understand in a hostile environment like this, is that you don't know poo poo about gently caress, and everyone's a half second away from being killed on both sides for different reasons. Mistakes are part of the fog of war.

Look at Ukraine, both sides regularly shoot at their own men because everyone is blind when the other guy can end you in an instant.

Basically, war is hell, more than most people can even imagine.”

“if you take into account the fact that hamas terrorists don't wear uniforms (not because they don't have them, as we've seen in 7/10) and that they've used UN ambulances to move around than it's really a coin flip for every male.. sadly, they also don't really have a minimal age (as seen in the west bank and also occasionally in gaza's checkpoints)..

i can't imagine the speed of the decision making needed to fight there”

Imagine almost getting the point but the. just accepting the company line away, in both cases. The former medic (loving babytalk MOS?) particularly just casually mentions seeing war crimes but then ends on “you know, the fog of war. Who can say who’s at fault? “

The second guy is just malicious “Hamas doesn’t wear uniforms” “Hamas uses ambulances”, it’s the upvotes for that which kill me.

Honky Mao posted:

Imagine that I photoshopped a Hamas fighter and put a NoJoe on the headband

Owlbear Camus posted:

i want my no joe gang tag reinstated properly, but in arabic caligraphy style

Al-Saqr posted:

israel considers anyone between 12-70 year olds enemy combatants they even shot a 79 year old who need a cane to walk in the back in cold blood

Sancho Banana posted:

Alright, by now, the IDF stealing corpses isn't a one-off thing, it's a pattern. What the hell are they doing?

Sancho Banana posted:

Alright, by now, the IDF stealing corpses isn't a one-off thing, it's a pattern. What the hell are they doing?

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Dysentery lol, these idiots are literally making GBS threads where they eat.

crepeface posted:

uhhh, really didn't expect to put grave desecration on the list of Israeli war crimes but now that I think about it, I bet it's not even the first time.

FirstnameLastname posted:

worldnews is particularly astroturfed by mic people & state dept

compare it to other news pages within reddit even and it's obvious

The Oldest Man posted:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/05/biden-condemn-sexual-violence-hamas-00130221

all of the made up ones, in particular

mawarannahr posted:

"Silence is complicity,” said Sheryl Sandberg, the former Meta executive who helped organize the presentation alongside Gilad Erdan, Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations.

Al-Saqr posted:

Financial Times, citing an Israeli official: We received $320 million in American aid for anti-tunnel technologies, it was useless

https://twitter.com/ajarabic/status/1732044657075384510?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

The Oldest Man posted:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/05/biden-condemn-sexual-violence-hamas-00130221

all of the made up ones, in particular

Bronze Fonz posted:

Grilled Beef posted:

this is, strictly speaking, not combat footage, and thus not breaking the rule, because no combat or combat related activities occur within it. the description in the tweet is inaccurate, we don’t see the placing of booby traps or their detonation.

we do however see how extremely close Palestinian fighters get to the Israeli camp and holy poo poo.

https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1732034935735627889

Al-Saqr posted:

"private shlomo what are you doing"

"DUUuuuuUuh you sed dat Khamas were ghosts, Boss! so im fixin it!"


https://twitter.com/me_observer_/status/1732115429114433952?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I guess anything is better than the donated food.

Paradoxish posted:

I mean if your baseline position is supporting the deaths of thousands of innocent people then, like, "Hamas don't wear uniforms" and "Hamas ride in ambulances" are extremely mild takes by comparison. Anyone who starts by not recoiling in horror at official reporting saying 2 in 3 deaths are civilians is not going to have anything good to say.

The fun thing about the official line is that it does literally nothing to justify the unjustifiable, so people who use that as an excuse for wanton slaughter are really easy to dismiss.