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MetaJew posted:On the other hand, the whole "infinite risk" part is spooky. The whole infinite risk thing is way overblown. Infinite risk assumes absolutely zero management of the position.
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Stock Picking and Trading: The whole infinite risk thing is way overblown.
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 22:58 |
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Don’t sell the right for people to call you, naked.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 01:01 |
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Every trade has 2 sides. I'm guessing it's a common experience to accumulate infinite gains from buying options
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 04:44 |
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pseudanonymous posted:Don’t sell the right for people to call you, naked. Don't tell me how to run my Onlyfans
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 04:59 |
VIX being utterly annihilated over the past five weeks have made the permabull/option-seller crowd extremely, extremely loving confident.
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SKULL.GIF posted:VIX being utterly annihilated over the past five weeks have made the permabull/option-seller crowd extremely, extremely loving confident. Until we see vix over 14+ and holding, gamma hedging is going on down to 12 for further bullishness. So they have reason considering we just had the most bullish month on the SPY/SPX in a century.
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SKULL.GIF posted:VIX being utterly annihilated over the past five weeks have made the permabull/option-seller crowd extremely, extremely loving confident.
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SKULL.GIF posted:VIX being utterly annihilated over the past five weeks have made the permabull/option-seller crowd extremely, extremely loving confident. Option sellers love it when the VIX is high. Not low. Also you can be an option seller and be a bull or a bear or neutral. Doesn't require a direction.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 18:55 |
Subvisual Haze posted:VIX being low is bad if you're selling options, less premium. xgalaxy posted:Option sellers love it when the VIX is high. Not low. Yes, the VIX has gone from 20+ in October to 13 now. There's no fear in the market.
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 19:47 |
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I'm really curious how this US Steel sale process is going. The CNBC rumor was that bids were due last Friday and the company would be evaluating them this week. In the meantime the stock has been creeping up...
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shorting tesla has lost people tons of money but man there is a huge divergence between their stock and supply/demand for lithium. if BYD ADR starts to topple that would be the canary for tsla. but if they both hold and lithium bottoms, maybe $alb is finally a buy again? https://twitter.com/yuantalks/status/1732209649221607730?s=46 something’s gotta give. i basically just find the lithium futures free fall fascinating to watch
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-quadruple-leveraged-p-500-012947368.htmlquote:A small ETN issuer is seeking to launch the first quadruple leveraged S&P 500 ETN—with the ticker XXXX—as exchange-traded fund issuers push the envelope on high-risk, high-reward investment products.
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Subvisual Haze posted:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-quadruple-leveraged-p-500-012947368.html quadruple X etf, nice! Be sure to get some credit from casinos too, don't just do credit card cash advances. Cash out refinance, etc.
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# ? Dec 6, 2023 06:12 |
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What does 3x/4x leverage mean
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Boris Galerkin posted:What does 3x/4x leverage mean
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After buying down significantly from an initial cost basis of like $23.xx, my years long losing AAL position has finally turned profitable lol.
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# ? Dec 6, 2023 15:36 |
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Oil and energy slumping low. I might be tempted to buy, but I'm already too concentrated there. Citi has had a great bump in the last month, glad I scooped up some of that. Beyond meat ($BYND) is catching my eye. It's a pretty hopeless nonprofitable company and I made some money shorting it earlier this year. In the last month though it seems to have surged up, probably a short squeeze seeing as the short interest on it is around 45%. IV is good on it so I might consider selling calls or credit spreads. Obviously the risk is the squeeze keeps going longer or higher than anticipated.
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# ? Dec 6, 2023 18:08 |
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ReidRansom posted:After buying down significantly from an initial cost basis of like $23.xx, my years long losing AAL position has finally turned profitable lol. Buying airlines has to be one of the all time greatest money losers. I wonder if that has changed now that they are basically banks
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drk posted:Buying airlines has to be one of the all time greatest money losers. I wonder if that has changed now that they are basically banks Oh, for real yeah. AAL is just a credit card provider that runs an airline as a side hustle these days. I swear we get the CC pitch like twice a flight now at least. But also it was at an almost post-pandemic low when I increased my stake, and so barring something worse (don't let these words curse me, please), has to be mostly upside, I'd think. They're not going anywhere, after all. Subvisual Haze posted:Beyond meat ($BYND) is catching my eye. It's a pretty hopeless nonprofitable company and I made some money shorting it earlier this year. In the last month though it seems to have surged up, probably a short squeeze seeing as the short interest on it is around 45%. IV is good on it so I might consider selling calls or credit spreads. Obviously the risk is the squeeze keeps going longer or higher than anticipated. I like Beyond, personally, but I'm on board with it probably not being something to put any money into short-term, or long at this price. Like, I'm married to a vegetarian, so we do use a lot of Beyond (or Impossible, they're basically interchangeable) products when I'm cooking something for both of us, and it's something that the difference wouldn't be noticeable, chili or lasagne or something. But I'm in an uncommon situation. Most people still choose meat. As long as livestock agriculture remains profitable (even if it's through government subsidy), and consumer culture doesn't make a huge shift, most people aren't likely to make a switch. Idunno. I'd touch it for some remora action maaybe, if it looks like it's going to continue this run, but I wouldn't put long money into it right now. ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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Also, I'm holding my NVO through next earnings, at least, but I want to see resolution to their supply issues asap. I've started buying LLY to hedge in case they can't figure their poo poo out.
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ReidRansom posted:Also, I'm holding my NVO through next earnings, at least, but I want to see resolution to their supply issues asap. I've started buying LLY to hedge in case they can't figure their poo poo out.
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Subvisual Haze posted:The fees and expenses tend to be higher to achieve this and generally make these sort of funds a bad idea to hold long-term. not only are fees high, there is an inherent volatility drag to highly leveraged products. taking compounding daily leveraged losses means that you can lose money even over periods were the underlying index is net positive. these products are intended for intraday trading and shouldn't even be held overnight
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Any idea what’s driving the lithium demand downturn? Seems like it should be going up unless some new battery tech suddenly came through
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Ubiquitus posted:Any idea what’s driving the lithium demand downturn? Seems like it should be going up unless some new battery tech suddenly came through it’s the kind of thing where we probably don’t have enough information to really answer it. EV sales this year have disappointed and China is undergoing deflation, so a real hit to expected demand. the lithium futures themselves are a new thing in the market as of this year, so maybe their opening was grossly mispriced? there is also sodium battery tech that has been getting a lot of press lately, but as far as i know it’s not in any sort of serious volume production. lithium futures were limit up this morning so optimists would be wondering if things are finally bottoming. what I’d really love to know is whether chinese producers are dumping lithium at a loss. that’d be bad for a company like $ALB too murky to casually trade, it’d be a bit of a gamble barring wide economic upturn
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https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1734368429816103170?s=20 this train doesn't stop until congress slashes the budget
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Uh, isn't that a terrible allusion to make? Because the Great Depression brought an end to the Roaring 20's the first time, leading to widespread economic misery that only ended when a world war broke out and the war economy could get up and running? Why would anyone compare their prosperity to a time period so cursed?
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Gologle posted:Uh, isn't that a terrible allusion to make? Because the Great Depression brought an end to the Roaring 20's the first time, leading to widespread economic misery that only ended when a world war broke out and the war economy could get up and running? Why would anyone compare their prosperity to a time period so cursed? A lot of people got richer during the depression, since, you know, everything was loving dirt cheap. Link: https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-people-who-made-money I would wager the wealthy who think a big recession is possible think they'll swoop in on incredibly cheap assets.
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And they'll be right
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# ? Dec 12, 2023 04:42 |
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cnbc's new design is just garbáge
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Just checking in here, myself and a few other people on the Discord touched the most stable of all commodities, NG, and we didn't blow up this year. With it dying again I've sold some KOLD, the 2x short NG ETF - here's how it's going: The margin requirements are hilariously high even though I regularly short volatility naked, and daily moves can be expected to be 5-15%. KOLD is currently in NG futures Jan/Mar so as long as we don't crater below $2 much I won't have to bag hold this a few months. edit: i feel compelled to say you should research just how volatile this is. not for the faint of heart or shaky nerves. i dont even think short volatility will blow you up as fast as this can if you over size Zephyris fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Number go up!
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What just happened an hour ago? Everything just turned green. e: oh rate hikes ending apparently Wifi Toilet fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Wifi Toilet posted:e: oh rate hikes ending apparently Back to business as usual Edit: maybe I can finally offload these long $15 sofi calls I've been holding since '22 for more than $0 that expire in January Hadlock fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Wifi Toilet posted:What just happened an hour ago? Everything just turned green. Wording was "we'll do whatever we want, forecast is rate hikes next year between 3.5 and 4.75, and we will raise it if we have to"
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Hadlock posted:
Too late for my redfins, what a dumbass trade.
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Yesterday before Fed speaking, I bought calls few strikes otm on Spy, and puts same few strikes otm on Spy. After the rally started, I sold the put contracts for a loss, and will sell the calls at market open today. Anyway is their a name for this strategy, essentially hoping for a direction and not sideways action.
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Joink posted:Yesterday before Fed speaking, I bought calls few strikes otm on Spy, and puts same few strikes otm on Spy. After the rally started, I sold the put contracts for a loss, and will sell the calls at market open today. Anyway is their a name for this strategy, essentially hoping for a direction and not sideways action. Long strangle
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