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Antigravitas posted:A bunch of them. It's probably possible to get into a sphere of reasonably factual information on twitter. It's definitely not the default state, which is why I'm ok with the people in this thread who go mining for it on our behalf.
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https://twitter.com/Mike_Eckel/status/1732138824006799785quote:This seems to be the reason why Zelenskiy decided to (was advised to) cancel his appearance. Content: Mitch McConnell talking about how he'd really love to help Ukraine, honest, totally, seriously, but borders are just so important, y'know?
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/Mike_Eckel/status/1732138824006799785 This is the exact same song Tuberville is singing, they've just changed the lyrics to be about siege mentality instead of gay panic. The end result is still an erosion of US readiness and and foreign policy capability.
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Computer viking posted:It's probably possible to get into a sphere of reasonably factual information on twitter. It's definitely not the default state, which is why I'm ok with the people in this thread who go mining for it on our behalf. The first big WaPo article was probably not entirely wrong about DoD providing at least one high risk high reward battle plan that Ukraine rejected in favor of a less risky approach. But framing that as a schism or that the DoD didn’t also have other options they presented or any of the other subtext from that article was way overboard. Like it simultaneously presented the DoD planners as overconfident and impractical and the Ukrainians as tentative and lethargic but applauds the Russians for their skill and talent and determination on the defense. It’s a pretty selective view considering that what was two years ago one of the premier militaries on the planet just threw away about two brigades of equipment and soldiers for minimal gain
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/Mike_Eckel/status/1732138824006799785 What a hill to die on. I don't know what assumptions they're making about voters, but to younger ears, it's a bad look to equivocate those 3 conflicts
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https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1732421931327197471 https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1732413824219918731 quote:It is reported on Russian and Ukrainian channels that a famous traitor, ex-Rada deputy Ilya Kiva was found dead in Moscow. Kiva ran from Ukraine on the eve of the full-scale invasion. He attended many talk shows on Russian TV recently where he slandered Ukraine. Content: A Ukrainian MP campaigned on a pro-Russian platform, got stripped of his position as MP due to supporting the Russian invasion of Ukraine, ran away to Russia to beg Putin for citizenship, mysteriously turned up very dead at his new address in Moscow and rumours are that the SBU did it.
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https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25121quote:Possible Patriot Intercept of Supersonic Russian Su-24 Bomber, Aircrew Did Not Survive Social media is reporting this as a major score, so I'll leave it up to the more knowledgeable folks to decide. Is it a very big deal that they've blown up an Su-24 specifically, or is it more noteworthy that it got blown up somewhere unexpected and thus might force Russia to be more careful with their jets?
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PurpleXVI posted:https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25121 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gne7beWy8fU
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PurpleXVI posted:https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25121 Supposedly near Snake Island, which makes me wonder WTF it was doing there.
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PurpleXVI posted:https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25121 I guess the latter. A SU-24 loss isn’t a big deal. They’re tactical strike workhorses and have been used (and sometimes lost both in the air and on the ground) in Syria, Ukraine, etc.
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OddObserver posted:Supposedly near Snake Island, which makes me wonder WTF it was doing there. En route to release glide bombs towards targets in the Odessa region would be my guess.
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A single airframe loss probably isn’t too bad, but it’s a rude surprise for AD to pop up and potentially block off an attack route. Even if the Ukrainians move it back away, the Russians still have to account for the possibility of air defense launching at planes that used to have a safe attack corridor.
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PurpleXVI posted:https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25121 It would be a much bigger deal if Ukraine lost a Su-24 due to the limited number of them they have left and they are responsible for launching SCALPs and Stormshadows.
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https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1732468777067917767quote:The US announced another $175 million military aid package for Ukraine, as reported by US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Well, with all the doomering, it's good to know there's still SOME stuff going to Ukraine. The Republicans haven't managed to completely turn off the tap yet.
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Finland's defence minister just announced Finland will start sending some artillery ammo to Ukraine, which will help a bit I guess. However, even though Finnish 155 mm production is kinda high for that size country, it's not gonna be enough by itself for sure. I was trying to find out some actual numbers but I'm not sure if Finland is publishing any (didn't before) Really need the other big EU countries to finally step up with the artillery ammo
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1732468777067917767 There is still around $4 bn in PDA funds left, but what the US is willing to part with via that money is constrained by stocks as well funding to replace them. About 60% of what is referred to as “Ukraine” spending has gone to the US defense base and US operations.
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jaete posted:Finland's defence minister just announced Finland will start sending some artillery ammo to Ukraine, which will help a bit I guess. However, even though Finnish 155 mm production is kinda high for that size country, it's not gonna be enough by itself for sure. I was trying to find out some actual numbers but I'm not sure if Finland is publishing any (didn't before) Strong “fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here “ energy.
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Britain and Norway are launching a new coalition for support for Ukraine on Monday, say the Norwegian defence ministry - https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/lansering-av-en-britisk-norsk-ledet-koalisjon-for-stotte-til-ukraina/id3017337/ - so hopefully there will be some more movement on the artillery and other European supplies coming.
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Wasabi the J posted:175 million feels smaller than Ukraine needs. Yeah, what was attempted but blocked by Republicans was 61 billion, for comparison. Source, of course: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25169
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67647379 Russian govt has been encouraging migrants to come to Russia in order to cross into the EU, not new news. What is newer, in terms of numbers of cases, is that when they are unable to do so and their short-term visas expire, Russian officials are trying to coerce them into signing army contracts through threats of deportation back to their home countries. BBC News posted:The BBC has seen evidence of several cases in which foreigners were rushed into a military camp on the border with Ukraine, days after they were picked up for breaching immigration laws. quote:Among those appearing in court in Karelia was a Somali man in his 40s, who was arrested in mid-November, sentenced to a fine of 2,000 roubles (£17; €20) and detained pending deportation - a standard procedure for anyone without an appropriate visa. quote:Awad told the BBC that he hired a taxi on 14 November and, along with another Somali migrant, was driven for several hours from St Petersburg to Lakhdenpokhya, a town in Karelia 30km from the Finnish border. quote:The documents offering a job which were presented by officials to the Somali and others were in Russian, which none of the group could understand. He and others assumed they would be given army-related work inside Russia, he said. quote:Awad told BBC that his bus journey ended at the border with Ukraine, in a muddy military camp made of large tents.
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Icon Of Sin posted:A single airframe loss probably isn’t too bad, but it’s a rude surprise for AD to pop up and potentially block off an attack route. Even if the Ukrainians move it back away, the Russians still have to account for the possibility of air defense launching at planes that used to have a safe attack corridor. I think the Russians knew there a Patriot battery near Odessa, not that strikes on infrastructure for grain export have stopped. What may have been news is that it can, and will, hit an aircraft where that one was.
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https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-warns-us-that-ukraine-will-be-its-second-vietnam-war/quote:The Kremlin’s spy chief Sergei Naryshkin warned the U.S. that Ukraine will turn into its “second Vietnam,” amid disagreement in Congress over funding for Kyiv. ...Russian language has irony as a concept, yes?
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PurpleXVI posted:...Russian language has irony as a concept, yes? And plenty of historical experience with this kind of war.
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PurpleXVI posted:https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-warns-us-that-ukraine-will-be-its-second-vietnam-war/ Definite articles, not so much, irony? Lots and lots.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/07/japan-to-provide-4-5-billion-to-ukraine/ Does Japan use NATO standards for its military? Like could it produce, without having to perform a major overhaul of its factories, artillery shells, tank ammo, small arms ammo, etc. that is compatible with the weaponry donated to Ukraine? I would take it South Korea is in the same situation?
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MH Knights posted:Does Japan use NATO standards for its military? Like could it produce, without having to perform a major overhaul of its factories, artillery shells, tank ammo, small arms ammo, etc. that is compatible with the weaponry donated to Ukraine? I would take it South Korea is in the same situation? I believe they work closely with the US, so I expect them to be mostly compatible?
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MH Knights posted:Does Japan use NATO standards for its military? Like could it produce, without having to perform a major overhaul of its factories, artillery shells, tank ammo, small arms ammo, etc. that is compatible with the weaponry donated to Ukraine? I would take it South Korea is in the same situation? Seeing as how Poland is buying S.K. tanks as the backbone of their armored forces, and the US is buying SK 155mm howitzer artillery to backfill stores sent to Ukraine, I would have thought that was a foregone conclusion.
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MH Knights posted:Does Japan use NATO standards for its military? Like could it produce, without having to perform a major overhaul of its factories, artillery shells, tank ammo, small arms ammo, etc. that is compatible with the weaponry donated to Ukraine? I would take it South Korea is in the same situation? Yeah most if not all Japanese and South Korean equipment uses NATO standards since they're so intertwined with the US military and, if push came to shove, each other. I know their small arms ammunition is all the same as the US uses so they can share supplies.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/07/japan-to-provide-4-5-billion-to-ukraine/ What's the spread we see this on the front lines? Unlike the T-14, it seems to be capable of reliably moving under its own power
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Catatron Prime posted:What's the spread we see this on the front lines? Over/under 2.5 gundams
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Cugel the Clever posted:Western cultural imperialism erasing indigenous patterns of arms and munitions manufacture In year 2039 the Ukrainian forces break the sixteen year stalemate with the introduction of gundams to the front line.
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07 DEC Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment: isw.pub/UkrWar120723 Key Takeaways ⬇️ 1/ Russian forces may be suffering losses along the entire front in Ukraine at a rate close to the rate at which Russia is currently generating new forces. 2/ High Russian casualties will likely prevent Russian forces from fully replenishing and reconstituting existing units in Ukraine and forming new operational and strategic reserves if Russian force generation efforts continue at current rates while the Russian military continues operations. 3/ Russia does appear able to continue absorbing such losses and making them good with new recruits, however, as long as President Vladimir Putin is willing and able to absorb the domestic consequences. isw.pub/UkrWar120723 https://bsky.app/profile/thestudyofwar.bsky.social/post/3kfytze2mk72a
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