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punishedkissinger posted:he's only the cook because he's familiar with the ingredients from the quadrant right? at least familiar enough to know which ones are edible or not Yeah, that's the hook IIRC. They are trying to conserve energy so limiting replicator use, and instead stocking up on fresh foods when the call on certain planets, with Neelix as their guide. But as said, this good hook (a local guide makes perfect sense) ceases to make sense once Voyager has traveled far enough. Then they were stuck with him.
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you would think that cooking for hundreds of people who are active on different shifts all day every day would be more strenuous. but instead neelix seems pretty idle most of the time.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:you would think that cooking for hundreds of people who are active on different shifts all day every day would be more strenuous. but instead neelix seems pretty idle most of the time. Perpetual Xl'uOx Stew
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And he tried to do a drug deal to get a map to remain useful. And Janeway said “hey it’s fine if you have no knowledge of the space we’re about to enter, you’re part of the crew now and you can stay as long as you want for some reason”
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:you would think that cooking for hundreds of people who are active on different shifts all day every day would be more strenuous. but instead neelix seems pretty idle most of the time. Haha sounds like maybe Voyager didn't think one of its premises through lol
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i feel like they gave him the Morale Officer job to try and phase him out of being cook.
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i guess they could have replicated some automated cooking machines but then never mentioned or showed them. that's pretty sensible, as it would pad out the prop budget for no particular benefit. like, who wants to see neelix's high tech automatic kitchen? poo poo, that does sound kind of interesting actually.
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punishedkissinger posted:i feel like they gave him the Morale Officer job to try and phase him out of being cook. delta quadrant's oldest profession
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gets a fancy machine that automatically breaks down plants and animal carcasses for cooking immediately removes his own lungs by accident
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neelix will continue until morale improves
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:lwaxana is rodney dangerfield and the enterprise is her country club. "I went to my wedding naked! The priest asked if anybody objected to this union and the groom did!" 
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:neelix will continue until morale improves Everyone will acknowledge everything Neelix says by screaming "YES, CHEF!"
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maybeadracula posted:Haha sounds like maybe Voyager didn't think one of its premises through I mean, that whole thing is a decent plot point of an entire episode. I don't think that means they didn't think that would never come up
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punishedkissinger posted:gets a fancy machine that automatically breaks down plants and animal carcasses for cooking even in the distant future of star trek there's no substitute to the reliable polytron
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Hell yeah got to Tuvix episode in Voyager rewatch. LMAO they spent weeks with Tuvix literally weeks. Then Janeway murders him. Also Neelix makes sense because cooking is just not a skill anyone on the ship really has because they're totally use to replicators. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Dec 10, 2023 |
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i'm confident that at least 1 starfleet officer can figure out the right setting and duration to properly phaser a leola root until it's cooked
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Neelix is basically a goon version of Alf.
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blatman posted:i'm confident that at least 1 starfleet officer can figure out the right setting and duration to properly phaser a leola root until it's cooked Riker is shown to be interested in cooking and so is Sisko , but the majority of humans like 99% are used to replicators and have grown up without cooking. Although that doesn't really make sense because replicators only existed after the TOS so like at most 100 years. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Hollismason posted:Hell yeah got to Tuvix episode in Voyager rewatch. LMAO they spent weeks with Tuvix literally weeks. Then Janeway murders him. there's probably a bunch of people on the crew who can cook a bit. if you can replicate meals you can replicate ingredients and have fun with it. but home cooking and cooking at scale are very different.
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I think its explained that Neelix has his cooking skills because he was on a ship as the cook ? I dunno where he got his "cook for shitload of people" skills or if its ever explained.
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if he had worked as a ship's cook then he had experience being a ship's cook. i do not see how that is particularly mysterious.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:if he had worked as a ship's cook then he had experience being a ship's cook. i do not see how that is particularly mysterious. I can't remember if this is true or not though.
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I wish they'd kept more of Neelix's original personality from when they first met him in Caretaker, the quirky shifty crook with the bubbly personality. Voyager's "I can steal that for you," guy. Like Quark but not an rear end in a top hat. Once he gets a comm badge and those awful future fashion suits he loses a lot of his edge. He turned into a naive dope when he should have been a cany ratfuck and you only briefly see that side of him from time to time across the show when the writers bother to remember it.
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O'Brien cooks for Keiko and tells her a fond memory he has of his mother's home cooking and she looks at him like he's grown a third arm on his forehead and goes "ew gross, meat"
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it wasn't even meat. it was a potato casserole and the part that really disgusted her was the capers.
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They go out of their way to point out that Sisko grew his own food to cook with and at one point he's cooking Chicken Paprikash which makes me think theres some place on DS9 where Sisko keeps some chickens that he'd kill for meals. No one mentions it though they all know.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it wasn't even meat. it was a potato casserole and the part that really disgusted her was the capers. Nah nah he was talking about his mum's cooking and Keiko's eyes popped out of her head at the idea of chopping meat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZTB5Jt6Xhw
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the scene where o'brien 'cooked' for her was from ds9. i guess he spent a long time wearing her down before she was willing to try something so exotic as seasoned, roasted vegetables.
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Riker cooked a terrible egg that only Worf liked
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I'm telling you all that Sisko kept basically a entire farm of animals on DS9 that he'd regularly slaughter.
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The second pylon was converted to a vertical livestock farm
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punishedkissinger posted:i feel like they gave him the Morale Officer job to try and phase him out of being cook. It's just like how in Space Station 13 somebody's gotta play the Clown.
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I thought he just replicated the ingredients but cooked by hand. I do, however, prefer the idea that he kept a giant assortment of animals.
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Grey Cat posted:I thought he just replicated the ingredients but cooked by hand. 
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If you want real, non-replicated meat in star trek they probably just grow whatever cuts they want since we're close to being able to do that now
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Tighclops posted:If you want real, non-replicated meat in star trek they probably just grow whatever cuts they want since we're close to being able to do that now That process was banned after the Meat Wars of 2034
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It doesn't matter how many members of Voyager's crew could cook, because they don't have time. The ship is short staffed. They can't take a guy off engineering to cook. It's easier to recruit a cook than an engineer.
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https://twitter.com/nocontexttrek/status/1733669732996317617
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Hollismason posted:No one mentions it though they all know. Eddington rather famously prefered cooked food.
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