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Electric Wrigglies posted:The Guardian agitating about a grand conspiracy (yes there is wankers like the Koch brothers but one is dead and the other irrelevant nowadays) theory flies in the face of that the vast majority of scientists come out in support of action mitigating climate change and that furthermore, this same percentage would likely be reflected in the people in regulatory positions and even an increasing section of investors. I guess that explains why we’ve seen such incredibly effective climate action from governments worldwide. Thank gently caress we don’t have to worry about bad actors in climate change anymore, I was worried for a bit.
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Spookydonut posted:its 5 now Holy poo poo, we're up to 3.3%! Recurring! If these trends continue... 
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Captain Theron posted:Yeah, there's no doubt he did it. There's like 4 other accusations about him out there, with at least 2 before the court in Queensland. I knew about one in QLD, but there's more?!? Why am I not surprised at all? Was it also Channel 7 that paid for War Criminal Ben Roberts? They really know how to pick em if so.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Was it also Channel 7 that paid for War Criminal Ben Roberts? They really know how to pick em if so. Yeah they're really showing their arses, Channel 7, supporters of rapists and war criminals
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I knew about one in QLD, but there's more?!? Yeah, The Shot covered them: 
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Electric Wrigglies posted:First, that is the Guardian so expect hilariously disingenuous interpretations in the name of moving the Overton window.  In non joke posting, thank you for the considered response, I am starting to suspect that we are talking past each other here because you keep saying the same things that I am saying and then saying you don't agree with me. I'm going to quote some parts from your post specifically to illustrate what I am talking about. Electric Wrigglies posted:... All are these are what I would characterise as the Fossil Fuel Industry being able to use the capital it controls (and thus allocates) to apply pressure to government to not take strong action to mitigate climate change. Businesses allocate the capital they control. Polical parties, states and nations need capital, so business can use that need to influence the decisions that parties, states, and nations take regarding the regulatory environment in which they operate. A good example of this is the pharmaceutical/healthcare industry in the US blocking healthcare reform. The US state could be paying less for better quality healthcare by reforming the system, but it does not because it would reduce profitability. See also in the US tax filings (though this may have finally changed). I think maybe you believe that I think that there is some grand conspiracy beyond this process of capital allocation/withdrawl? I assure you I do not, I see this as being a very normal component of capitalism. Businesses that have large amounts of capital allocate it in ways to ensure that they remain maximally profitable. The fossil fuel industry materially opposses action that would reduce fossil fuel profits, and materially supports (by investing in) places and actions that increase it. This is something I have seen happen from within the industry, it's not Dr. Evil planning to destroy the world, it's building in the places that are cheapest and most profitable to build and donating to political parties that will not reduce profitability. The problem in this specific case is that this is not a question of efficient allocation, we can not afford for the action to be as slow as the fossil fuel industry wants it to be. We are currently on track to blow past our CO2 emissions limit for 1.5C in the next 10 years and hit 2.5C by the end of the century*. The COP28 President (also the head of an oil and gas company) has said that there is 'no science' behind the demand to phase out fossil fuels**. This is a serious problem, I don't know what the solution is, but oil and gas companies are actively opposing solving it. Electric Wrigglies posted:I find it frustrating that whenever the detail of what is required starts to be climbed into, someone claps their hands with *without *climate *change *action *there is *no *jobs like Greta Thunberg was some sort of savant discovering a hidden truth. You pointed out already that is not you so sorry for tilting at windmills. Thanks for this, I understand the frustration of dealing with people who are entirely pigheaded about transition, but that isn't me. I try to be as realistic as possible, especially given my background in fossil fuels. I'm well aware that if we all took the moral step of stopping doing it, everyone would starve and our society would fall over, the only path to transition is political and regulatory. However those political and regulatory mechanisms are constantly opposed by the fossil fuel industries through the power granted to them by the capital they control. Also to clarify, I don't think I'm better than finance people, I hate finance ghouls who pursue maximised profit at all costs, vulture capitalists, etc. There's a significant difference. *https://www.newscientist.com/article/2344159-world-is-on-track-for-2-5c-of-global-warming-by-end-of-the-century/ **https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/4/cop28s-uae-president-defends-climate-science-comments
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Captain Theron posted:Yeah, The Shot covered them: Jesus christ
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Captain Theron posted:Yeah, The Shot covered them: Good lord, what piece of poo poo
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Now, now chemical castration is the much more moral option. The chemical of course being sulphuric acid applied topically.
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whats that chemical thats made by mixing sulphuric acid with something else, the one that eats its way through anything carbon paint that on his crotch
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Non Compos Mentis posted:whats that chemical thats made by mixing sulphuric acid with something else, the one that eats its way through anything carbon iirc its sulphuric and hydrochloric acid
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Non Compos Mentis posted:whats that chemical thats made by mixing sulphuric acid with something else, the one that eats its way through anything carbon Jezza of OZPOS posted:iirc its sulphuric and hydrochloric acid Sulphuric acid and hydrogen peroxide (H2SO4 + H2O2), aka piranha solution. Make sure you: - use 30% peroxide or higher or don't bother - wear quality PPE and avoid contact with your skin and eyes - add the peroxide SLOWLY and CAREFULLY since exothermic reaction does occur and if you dump that poo poo in all at once it will flash boil, splash your dumb arse and chemically flay you alive - dilute with lots and lots of water while disposing of it to avoid a buildup of gas in the drainpipes (you can safely flush piranha solution down the sink/toilet/whatever, just do it a bit at a time with lots of water) - store the ingredients separately, don't store solution you made because it gives off gas over time Source: I watch loads of chemistry videos on YouTube from cool channels like NileRed, NileBlue, ExplosionsandFire, CodysLab, etc. and learn all kinds of fascinating things. The very instant Non Compos Mentis mentioned it I figured "may as well post information and safety notices so they at least have the right chemicals".
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freebooter posted:I don't think most people are aware that we kick non-citizens out of the country once they're released from prison. (Which I think is fine in most cases - students, backpackers, short-term visa holders - but deeply hosed in the case of e.g. people who came here when they were kids and are now in their 50s but never became a citizen.) Yeah, didn't Australia basically sentence an alcoholic man to death by deporting him to Scotland in the middle of winter? Can't find the article, but I swear there was one a few years ago where old mate had moved to Australia when he was 3, didn't know anyone in Scotland, did something that got him deported, was instantly homeless and eventually died of exposure. There's also that guy who left the UK when he was 10 months old, has terminal cancer and less than a year left to live, yet the government wants to deport him anyway. (Iirc he was granted a bridging visa) birdstrike posted:We also tried to deport indigenous people! Yeah that was pretty fukt (for those who aren't injecting the news into their eyeballs on the reg, some indigenous guy had been raised in Australia on country his whole life, but they tried to deport him after a criminal conviction coz his dad was from overseas and therefore he was technically a citizen of some other nation).
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...ABC going in to bat for the Stage 3 Tax Cuts. Cool, thanks ABC.. 
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SecretOfSteel posted:...ABC going in to bat for the Stage 3 Tax Cuts. Cool, thanks ABC.. He says tax indexation is a good idea and he's right.
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SecretOfSteel posted:...ABC going in to bat for the Stage 3 Tax Cuts. Cool, thanks ABC.. The LMTO going away probably hit a lot of people hard.
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JBP posted:He says tax indexation is a good idea and he's right. Indexation only works if wages go up.
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hooman posted:Indexation only works if wages go up. Perfect Less flippantly it works where wages rise below the indexed rate because the sub-index rises are no longer pushed into the higher bracket. The idea isn’t new and the commonly stated reason it hasn’t happened is that it would stop treasurers claiming they’re cutting tax rates on budget night when they fiddle with brackets.
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hooman posted:Indexation only works if wages go up. They went up 4% last year. They are going up. So you're getting owned by no adjustments to tax since 2017 (I think) plus mortgage and cpi ownage. So your income is getting gobbled up across the board.
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Communities are rising up against the pokiesquote:Communities are trying to chase pokies out of Australian towns. Their victories are inspiring others
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https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ndroidApp_Other Labor leadership spill!
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Not really surprising, at least it will give time for the new premier to settle in before the next election to trounce the LNP again. Maybe we will get another election where Labor loses a another seat or 2 to the Greens while Labor picks up the same amount from the LNP.
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Lol the news is saying it will be Miles replacing her uncontested. Miles always comes off as a bit of a smartass in media appearances i don't know if he will save the ship. Queensland Labor has much stronger media performers than Miles.
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Anidav posted:
eh he got a lot of face time during covid and hes got better name recognition than any other state labor mp. ill be surprised if it isnt him
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My gut instinct, even before the change of Leadership, is that Labor would win again, but narrowly or possibly in minority government. I suspect the liberals will gain seats out of Brisbane but struggle in brisbane itself, and I think the greens will pick up a few inner Brisbane seats.
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JBP posted:They went up 4% last year. They are going up. So you're getting owned by no adjustments to tax since 2017 (I think) plus mortgage and cpi ownage. So your income is getting gobbled up across the board. Out of interest, do you know how those wage changes were distributed by income quartile?
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~15%-30% fully embracing crab bucket thought
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The federal CPSU just totally gave in to the stingy offer on the table for the APS. Hope the Victorian branch has a lot more of a spine
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Anidav posted:Lol the news is saying it will be Miles replacing her uncontested. all the media is saying fentiman is a contender too and it isn't at all certain it will be miles? The Lord Bude posted:My gut instinct, even before the change of Leadership, is that Labor would win again, but narrowly or possibly in minority government. I suspect the liberals will gain seats out of Brisbane but struggle in brisbane itself, and I think the greens will pick up a few inner Brisbane seats. lnp can form government just by sweeping outside of brisbane, which is possible, there's barely any marginals in brisbane to begin with. labor can win but they've been behind in polls recently and palaszczuk's popularity had crashed at last. hopefully whoever gets the leadership can turn things around though idk if miles could given his media performances lih fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Dec 10, 2023 |
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Atleast the last time the LNP won you saw Newman earned it through being a popular lord Mayor. This other opposition leader is lazy as gently caress and has basically let channel 7 run the campaign for him.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:How does anyone become popular as a lord mayor? Joke position Newman was popular because as Lord Mayor he was just seen as this dude in a hard hat, ex military engineer, who just liked building stuff (especially tunnels). It’s easy to be popular when your job is just delivering on concrete tangible stuff like that. The LNP has had total control of BCC for nearly 20 years now, and in spite of that it’s very tangibly the best run large city in the country. It’s when he moved to state government and had to deal in complex ideological stuff that he showed his true colours. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Dec 10, 2023 |
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The Lord Bude posted:The LNP has had total control of BCC for nearly 20 years now, and in spite of that it’s very tangibly the best run large city in the country. [angry victorian noises]
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GoldStandardConure posted:[angry victorian noises] sorry dude, you can’t run a city properly by chopping it up into a patchwork of powerless impoverished squabbling nimby fiefdoms (Melbourne isn’t half as bad as Sydney in this regard but it’s still poo poo compared to brisbane)
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Note that Brisbane City Council is equivalent to 30 plus local government areas if it was located in a another state and has budgets, over 4 billion dollars. In short it's quite powerful and holds significant influence.
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The Lord Bude posted:sorry dude, you can’t run a city properly by chopping it up into a patchwork of powerless impoverished squabbling nimby fiefdoms (Melbourne isn’t half as bad as Sydney in this regard but it’s still poo poo compared to brisbane) i don't live in melbourne lol when my partner said they preferred going to brisbane for holiday over melbourne, auspol declared them a non person. victorians very sensitive.
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