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Issaries posted:They are not immune to melee. You need to target their floortile, which is circled red. For some reason her face does that while holding any two-handed gun. No clue why.
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Jack Trades posted:What's the first typical "gently caress you" Owlcat(tm) encounter in the game? What ability are you able to make a joke out of? I didn't read them, but Abelard literally just sat his fat rear end down and kept using his "Reduce damage by TGH & gain TGH temp wounds" ability. The thing was a bunch of hit points as it kept eating/healing, but it was never a threat for me.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:01
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My big issue with combat right now is they love to set fights in huge arenas that take several turns for your slow as mollasses units to transverse with sniper squads at the other ends. Hope you brought along your own counter sniper squad or at least an officer whose only job is to spam the bonus range + ignore cover ability on your ranged guys. <- BTW its this ability that makes Argenta a blender. Another issue is the game lying and saying I have line of slight and then watching sadly as my shot slams into indestructible cover.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:02
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Sab669 posted:What ability are you able to make a joke out of? I didn't read them, but Abelard literally just sat his fat rear end down and kept using his "Reduce damage by TGH & gain TGH temp wounds" ability. The thing was a bunch of hit points as it kept eating/healing, but it was never a threat for me. You kill all the adds first and then it can't do anything anymore. It heals itself only if there are adds available to eat.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:04
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Makes sense, but I think I had it + Abe stuck in a little "corridor" where I couldn't even get around it to kill the adds. Or didn't want to open up a charge lane towards the rest of my party.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:05
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Also here's something fun: the electro priests you get offered to help you with the final fight in the monastery heal the heretic electro priests, making it harder to kill them and stop the countdown from the whole place blowing up. Thanks, Owlcat.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:06
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Kind of disappointed at Argenta's bolter damage  Level 8 atm so presumably better ones appear eventually
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Dec 10, 2023 17:08
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Is the warp meter bugged? I don't see it increasing with some powers, although I'm getting negative effects.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:09
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I had to lower the difficulty to Story, the fights just weren't fun anymore on Normal. In the beta the difficulty was all over the place but here it just becomes brutal for whatever reason after the first chapter.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:35
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Issaries posted:They are not immune to melee. You need to target their floortile, which is circled red. Yeah I did try targeting the exact same place I was able to target fine with my ranged abilities. Must have been bugged I guess, good to know that encounter can be easier in theory. For that Cassia bug it comes from equipping her with certain weapons. A buddy of mine triggered it using rifles.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:42
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For those of you doing 150 damage in a turn please share your builds & tips. I know there are some people who think nothing of making spreadsheets of builds and scoff at the idea that CRPGs are hard but I'm not one of them.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:51
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Issaries posted:On other news, I don't know what happened, but I don't like what they've done to my Cassia: House of Habsburg... IN SPACE!
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Dec 10, 2023 17:51
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Kobal2 posted:House of Habsburg... IN SPACE! She does have the strangely elongated limbs mutation, as well as toothy gills, talons, and whatever is going on with her projective empathy.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:57
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Goddamn this game is so good. I am tweaking the difficulty a bit back and forth. I'm really happy you have control over so many aspects of the game. The lore is taking center stage front and center and it's amazing. I HAVE A MY OWN VOID SHIP YALL.
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Dec 10, 2023 18:07
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Yeah, Cassia seems to have more mutations than what is commonly expected from a Navigator in her age bracket. I´m sure that it´s just fine and nothing to worry about.
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Wait, so she's not supposed to be a Habsburg?evilmiera posted:I had to lower the difficulty to Story, the fights just weren't fun anymore on Normal. In the beta the difficulty was all over the place but here it just becomes brutal for whatever reason after the first chapter. I've done it already at Rykad Minoris or whatever it's called, because playing all those back to back fights on regular difficulty just takes soooo looooong. I wouldn't mind bumping the difficulty up again for a boss encounter or something, but for all those chaff enemies? No thanks. I'd like to complete this game before my 50th birthday.
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Dec 10, 2023 18:11
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One more #Owlcat things: You get trophies from destroying enemy ships, which can be traded from your cargo to the Imperial Navy to get better ship parts. Except they automatically go to your inventory, not your cargo. You have to manually place them to cargo to give them to Imperial Navy. And no, there's no other use for them.  I got my first navy ranks after liberating all my worlds.
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Dec 10, 2023 18:12
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Can you set the first one you get to 'Always send to cargo' Or does this send them to the neather realm.
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Dec 10, 2023 18:14
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Cassia is explicitly the monster scion of a mutant tyrant who was at-best a controversial Paternova to her house. She's got a weird thing in her neck to stop her from driving your crew insane like she did to her servants on the space station. This is all text!
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inscrutable horse posted:Wait, so she's not supposed to be a Habsburg? I mean, she's the romance option for a male PC so... probably not ? Although what with the liberal transgay agenda gone woke (gone insane (GONE SEXUAL(IN SPACE!))) you never know.
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Are there any good source of Extractums other than the ones that get handed to you along the way in the story?
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Okay yeah Cassia loving slaps when you get more Navigator powers on her and use the Guardian staff. Just endlessly stacking buffs for someone (usually Abelard) and endlessly stacking willpower for her. Most of the companions so far seem quite good in their own right, though I’m only done with two of the areas in the first system so I don’t have them all— the worst is Argenta but she’s more feast or famine than anything. When her burst fire hits it obliterates poo poo, but when only one or two do she feels anemic. Hoping there’s some talents I haven’t noticed yet to help with that, or that I get access to some different weapons soon. The game is just continuing the long, storied tradition of 40k games somehow making bolters feel awful to use. 
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Bussamove posted:Okay yeah Cassia loving slaps when you get more Navigator powers on her and use the Guardian staff. Just endlessly stacking buffs for someone (usually Abelard) and endlessly stacking willpower for her. Most of the companions so far seem quite good in their own right, though I’m only done with two of the areas in the first system so I don’t have them all— the worst is Argenta but she’s more feast or famine than anything. When her burst fire hits it obliterates poo poo, but when only one or two do she feels anemic. Hoping there’s some talents I haven’t noticed yet to help with that, or that I get access to some different weapons soon.
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When I'm just starting out, is there any reason to not pick up everything I can from the reputation merchant people, based on my profit factor? Like, it doesn't seem to go down when I snag everything available to me, so I don't see the negatives. Especially since there also doesn't seem to be a limit on inventory (yet).Infinity Gaia posted:For some reason her face does that while holding any two-handed gun. No clue why. I saw a guy holding a perfectly flat 2D rifle in one fight lol.
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Sylphosaurus posted:I don´t know, Space Marine had some pretty sick Bolter action IMHO and Darktide is pretty good at it as well. Space Marine has some good feeling bolters, yeah. I always tried using them in Darktide but goddamn that racking animation when you pull them out after swapping from melee feels longer than some opening cinematics in the middle of a fight. But I haven’t played in a hot minute so they might have adjusted that.
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Arglebargle III posted:For those of you doing 150 damage in a turn please share your builds & tips. I know there are some people who think nothing of making spreadsheets of builds and scoff at the idea that CRPGs are hard but I'm not one of them. Here is generally what I did for Cassia to turn her into that kind of monster around level 17ish: 1. Up willpower then perception. 2. Take the "Notch of Purpose" and "Point of Curiosity" abilities. 3. Take perilous ways ([willpower bonus + 2 per cell moved] damage when forced to move), Mastery of Time (+5 willpower when a creature gets an extra go) 4. Equip a devastating staff (adds its value in damage to all impacted. Also allows to cast an ability twice in a turn, but it does damage to cassia too. The Strange Vitality talent heals for way more damage than it'll do so it is no big deal) As the fight goes on and my officer gives people extra turns Cassia's willpower gets higher and higher. 100-200 willpower is very doable. Her turns involve casting Point of Curiosity twice to herd enemies around, then either hitting them with her cone AoE to stun most of them or a single target attack I picked up whose name escapes me to nuke one enemy hard. I took grand strategist as her 2nd archetype only because it guarantees that she always goes first. This happens after my officer's Seize the Initiative so she goes twice before the enemies get any actions at all. Note that I also have talents that scales her wounds from willpower, dodge from perception and nerfs perception + agility of anyone in her line of sight so she's very survivable too. In general, I feel you can build a solid killing character by following these steps: 1. Make the characteristic you use to hit things high. 2. Make the characteristics your archetype scales on high. 3. Break the action economy by either getting additional turns or getting extra attacks per turn. 4. Make sure support character(s) that buff characteristics 1 and 2 are built to buff those as high as possible. FurtherReading fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Dec 10, 2023 |
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Issaries posted:They are not immune to melee. You need to target their floortile, which is circled red. Lol yeah that happens whenever you give her a rifle, very funny. For a second I thought they had just made navigators even freakier
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Where does one pick up Cassia? Maybe I simply haven't played enough. I'm doing the final (?) fight in the monastery. Henrix and Argenta were none too pleased with what I said to Aurora
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I just finished the first planet-side mission. Is there a way to fast-travel back to the ship?
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So, before retiring my Operative that I simply wasn´t feeling I landed in act one and after a few reloads I realized that the state of the different locations changes depending on what order you visit them, which IMHO is a far better solution than the time sensitive quest states that Owlcat had in the Pathfinder games. Has anyone found an "ideal" order to of when to visit the locations?
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Sab669 posted:Where does one pick up Cassia? Maybe I simply haven't played enough. I'm doing the final (?) fight in the monastery. You pick her up in the space station in that system. The monastery is the final fight for the rykas minoris rebellion. I did Cassia first so I am not sure where it makes you wait before the act finale. I think the prison planetoid might be optional.
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Aramoro posted:Can you set the first one you get to 'Always send to cargo' Or does this send them to the neather realm. The Ship combat loot UI is different. You can right-click and choose to 'add to cargo' for each individual stack. There's no always send to cargo option. Also the button for 'add to cargo' doesn't even work. They still went to the regular inventory.
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I did the prison planet and navigator’s station first, I feel like the actual planet is gonna be turbofucked next time I play. I also let the rabble in the lower decks try and police themselves and all the upper crust got mad at me about it. Suck it, nerds, Iconoclast4lyfe.
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Sylphosaurus posted:So, before retiring my Operative that I simply wasn´t feeling I landed in act one and after a few reloads I realized that the state of the different locations changes depending on what order you visit them, which IMHO is a far better solution than the time sensitive quest states that Owlcat had in the Pathfinder games. Has anyone found an "ideal" order to of when to visit the locations? From watching beta let's plays: Doing the prison planetoid first means the rogue trader heir there doesn't get mutilated by the warden. Doing the space station first means you can loot it for jewels for extra profit factor. There's an option to loot equipment instead, I dunno what that gives. I don't know what is different about doing the capital first as I haven't seen that path yet.
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Wow look at all this cover in front of this chaos space marine. Better put my guys behind it. Oh he... he just ran around the cover and his attacks are now hitting everyone lined up in a row. Three people died on turn one. Lesson learned.
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Issaries posted:They are not immune to melee. You need to target their floortile, which is circled red. Inbreeding is a motherfucker. Heavy Bolter Arch Militant Argenta is partially online. Needs a bit of support from my officer corps, but with a Backline + Fire At Will zone and some help getting to the first Heroic Act to trigger Steady Superiority, she can build two stacks of versatility a turn. I want to grab the Heavy Gunner (-1 AP to fire heavy weapons) and Breaking Point (+2 Damage and Ignore 2 Deflection) talents to finally round it out. 
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Sylphosaurus posted:I don´t know, Space Marine had some pretty sick Bolter action IMHO and Darktide is pretty good at it as well. This is Necromunda:Hired Gun erasure and I, for one, will not stand for it.
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Janissary Hop posted:Wow look at all this cover in front of this chaos space marine. Better put my guys behind it. Oh he... he just ran around the cover and his attacks are now hitting everyone lined up in a row. Three people died on turn one. Lesson learned. seems pretty lore accurate lmao
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Bussamove posted:I did the prison planet and navigator’s station first, I feel like the actual planet is gonna be turbofucked next time I play. Rofl this won't backfire at all.
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Philthy posted:seems pretty lore accurate lmao Reminded of that part in Eisenhorn where he and his elite human squad see a single chaos marine moving towards them, and Eisenhorn's first thought is a very calm (paraphrasing) "Me and my squad are going to die in the next couple of seconds but I can warn the other squads about this" and then while he is getting on his vox/radio or whatever, a loyalist space marine bursts in and tackles the chaos one at like super speed.
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