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Have you book highlighters considered the simple alternative of having an eidetic memory?
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 05:17 |
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The highlights are not really for me but for my all those blessed to read the book after me
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 05:22 |
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uninterrupted posted:i can't imagine getting through the preface then leaving a greasy copy of some Austrian school drivel on a park bench, and calling that experience "reading" Civilized Fishbot posted:The highlights are not really for me but for my all those blessed to read the book after me
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 05:51 |
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Civilized Fishbot posted:The fact that there's a long history of doing it doesn't mean it's equivalent to reading. Stupid take, is reading braille not reading? Or how about screen readers for posts? Different people read differently, and although my brain just does not gel with audiobooks, that doesn't mean my friends who do exclusively are illiterate. Touch grass
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 06:19 |
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It's only actually reading if the book was penned by monk scribes in a monastery scriptorium.
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 06:36 |
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tokin opposition posted:Stupid take, is reading braille not reading? Or how about screen readers for posts? Different people read differently, and although my brain just does not gel with audiobooks, that doesn't mean my friends who do exclusively are illiterate. Touch grass Having something read to you is a big difference from reading it yourself. The reader is the one who chooses when to move from one word to the next word. Obviously this is the case with braille just like with 2D letters. I've never used a screen reader and don't know what that's like. Your friends who exclusively have books read to them but don't read books themselves: it's obviously compatible with illiteracy - that's how life works for most children in a certain age range, they have books read to them but can't read themselves, because they're still developing literacy. I would guess that these friends are all fully literate and just don't read books (normal) and like audiobooks (normal). The're different mediums of communicating art or information. Engaging with them is very different - seeing and hearing work differently. Reading a transcript of human speech isn't hearing it, because the 2D (or 3D) text can't capture nearly all the nuance of pace, volume, and tone. It's not a value judgement between mediums, just appreciating how different they are Libertarianism is a 1-way road to Fahrenheit 451 Civilized Fishbot has issued a correction as of 07:08 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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I once burned a book out of this principle, an abridged copy of Tom Sawyer. It's already short and easy to read! gently caress you readers digest.
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 07:07 |
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Having something read to you is a big difference from reading it yourself. The reader is the one who chooses when to move from one word to the next word. Obviously this is the case with braille just like with 2D letters. I've never used a screen reader and don't know what that's like. I’d rather proscribe literature in favor of an oral tradition than agree with this
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 07:53 |
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Audiobooks count. Don't really work for all genres tho, obviously. Simple as that.
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 07:58 |
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audiobooks count, but for me personally, I take in content better with my eyes than with my ears. I also don’t enjoy podcasts for that reason. there’s nothing wrong with podcasts, loads of people really enjoy them and get a lot out of them, but I prefer to read text than listen to it. it doesn’t make me an intellectual, or superior. I go over sentences and passages several times pretty often. Honestly it probably makes me a weirdo, kinda dumb because I need multiple goes at the content, and possibly a Luddite of sorts. But it’s just how I do, and that is okay, for me.
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 08:12 |
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Shithouse Dave posted:audiobooks count, but for me personally, I take in content better with my eyes than with my ears. I also don’t enjoy podcasts for that reason. there’s nothing wrong with podcasts, loads of people really enjoy them and get a lot out of them, but I prefer to read text than listen to it. it doesn’t make me an intellectual, or superior. I go over sentences and passages several times pretty often. Honestly it probably makes me a weirdo, kinda dumb because I need multiple goes at the content, and possibly a Luddite of sorts. But it’s just how I do, and that is okay, for me. u dont like music?
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 08:36 |
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I only read full scores, and the occasional guitar tablature.
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 08:48 |
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fart simpson posted:u dont like music? People famously pick up the correct lyrics when listening.
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Orange Devil posted:People famously pick up the correct lyrics when listening. "'Scuse me, while I kiss this guy", sure. "Slow walking Walter, the fire engine guy"? Bullshit.
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 08:57 |
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Libertarians are the nemesis of Librarians
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 09:09 |
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FFT posted:A lot of mondegreens are a big reach, though. hey now don’t get wrapped up like a douche
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 10:42 |
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audiobooks are great because it's just so much more ~efficient~ to have them running in the background while doing more important things like coding javascript bing bong so simple
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 11:53 |
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Considering the books I would imagine he picks up and the general state of business literature, he is likely right on both counts
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 12:59 |
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i'm a visual-only person and have to see poo poo happen in my head to process it, so audiobooks as background noise are unusable for me because as soon as i have to think about something else, they're immediately tuned out completely. i can still hear it, but it might as well be white noise and make no difference this means that if i'm doing something else, or even if i just think about what's being said in the book instead of following it, i'll lose the thread immediately and have to scroll back, so i'd rather just read it at my own pace instead melodies are about the only thing i can "follow" in the background, and even that's only become possible in my late teens, after i've been playing a shitton of music for over a decade first
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 13:02 |
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Comrade Koba posted:audiobooks are great because it's just so much more ~efficient~ to have them running in the background while doing more important things like coding javascript that's right. got the expanse audibooks going at 4x speed in one ear and the latest Rogan at 3x (he gets unintelligible any faster) in the other. IDE open, drum and bass pounding, it's time to change the world.
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 13:26 |
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FFT posted:A lot of mondegreens are a big reach, though. that's loving smoke on the water?!
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 13:43 |
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FFT posted:A lot of mondegreens are a big reach, though. My mom listened to a lot of Eric Clapton when I was a kid and I misunderstood Layla as gay love, I was too young to even have any understanding of what gay was, but I can promise you I got a lot of concerned looks when I busted out singing it in the grocery store I guess that and the Lana del ray song where she goes “goddamn man child” but I heard “goddamn my own child” and the next line really did not work with that misheard lyric
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HashtagGirlboss posted:My mom listened to a lot of Eric Clapton when I was a kid and I misunderstood Layla as gay love, I was too young to even have any understanding of what gay was, but I can promise you I got a lot of concerned looks when I busted out singing it in the grocery store lol
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 14:19 |
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... Like a fool, I fell in love with you You turned my whole world upside down... Gay Love, got me on my knees, Gay Love Lmao
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FreudianSlippers posted:It's only actually reading if the book was penned by monk scribes in a monastery scriptorium. monks read books outloud
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 14:54 |
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i love to read essays (listening to podcasts)
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 15:02 |
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Truga posted:i'm a visual-only person and have to see poo poo happen in my head to process it, so audiobooks as background noise are unusable for me because as soon as i have to think about something else, they're immediately tuned out completely. i can still hear it, but it might as well be white noise and make no difference This is me during over half my work meetings on Teams.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:My mom listened to a lot of Eric Clapton when I was a kid and I misunderstood Layla as gay love, I was too young to even have any understanding of what gay was, but I can promise you I got a lot of concerned looks when I busted out singing it in the grocery store lol
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 18:16 |
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i dont get the issue with the pace of audiobooks being too fast because honestly, if audiobooks dont seem excruciatingly slow to you compared to just reading, you're probably subvocalizing when you read. so if we're gonna be rear end in a top hat purists about Reading then i think you should never get credit for REALLY READING anything, at all, ever. sorry. you're not even reading this post
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HashtagGirlboss posted:My mom listened to a lot of Eric Clapton when I was a kid and I misunderstood Layla as gay love, I was too young to even have any understanding of what gay was, but I can promise you I got a lot of concerned looks when I busted out singing it in the grocery store
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eSports Chaebol posted:i dont get the issue with the pace of audiobooks being too fast because honestly, if audiobooks dont seem excruciatingly slow to you compared to just reading, you're probably subvocalizing when you read. so if we're gonna be rear end in a top hat purists about Reading then i think you should never get credit for REALLY READING anything, at all, ever. sorry. you're not even reading this post
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 21:09 |
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it's only reading if you're spreeding *takes sip of soylent*
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 21:16 |
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Having something read to you is a big difference from reading it yourself. The reader is the one who chooses when to move from one word to the next word. Obviously this is the case with braille just like with 2D letters. I've never used a screen reader and don't know what that's like. this is correct and everyone who’s hassling you over it is just being hyper defensive that they’re too internet-brain-damaged to be able to sit still and read a book
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 21:57 |
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are ebooks not real reading? this is important.
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 22:01 |
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People learn and absorb things differently you dumbasses why do the hot takes always come from inside the thread
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 22:02 |
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homer begins to sing of the rage of achilles EPIC LEFTIST: get off tiktok lol
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 22:03 |
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Can you guys keep it down? I can barely hear my Bunraku narrator and accompanying shamisens over this squabbling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQrAAnes3PA
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 22:21 |
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YaketySass posted:Libertarians are the nemesis of Librarians Not really a hot take
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# ? Dec 11, 2023 22:50 |
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Graphical user interfaces were a mistake, we should have stuck with the CLI.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:My mom listened to a lot of Eric Clapton when I was a kid and I misunderstood Layla as gay love, I was too young to even have any understanding of what gay was, but I can promise you I got a lot of concerned looks when I busted out singing it in the grocery store Stav, Is that you?
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