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Even in the 90's a sympathetic story about a state worker at concentration camp was a razor thin edge to be walking on, he wasn't made an actual camp guard with a gun on purpose that's for sure. The key factor is that while on the surface it appears to be about redemption it is not at all about Marritza redeeming himself. At the end it zeroes in on that for something on the (horribly small Star Trek) scale of Bajor you can't just kill everyone responsible because everyone is responsible.
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It also gets at the idea (which thankfully continues to be explored throughout the series) that for true change to happen, we need people like that -- people who feel the guilt of what their society has done -- but unfortunately those voices are often marginalized to the point where they end up either staying out of the discourse or being removed from the equation altogether. And yeah, thankfully the season finale isn't too much of a letdown after that. It's where the show really starts taking advantage of its unique setting and the political implications. You're officially past the weird TNG reject plots at this point.
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In the first of today's episodes of DS9, "In the Hands of the Prophets," we get introduced to Vedek Winn, who I assume is going to be a recurring antagonist throughout the rest of the series, as she provokes a bunch of religious extremists into bombing a school as a smokescreen to set up the assassination of a rival religious leader, and gets away with it when her minion takes the fall after failing. Looking forward to learning to love to hate her. In "The Homecoming," Major Kira and Chief O'Brien manage to rescue W.T. Fits fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Dec 10, 2023 |
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W.T. Fits posted:In the first of today's episodes of DS9, "In the Hands of the Prophets," we get introduced to Vedek Winn, who I assume is going to be a recurring antagonist throughout the rest of the series, as she provokes a bunch of religious extremists into bombing a school as a smokescreen to set up the assassination of a rival religious leader, and gets away with it when her minion takes the fall after failing. Looking forward to learning to love to hate her. But yeah Duet is a banger of an episode and the start of DS9 ramping up from pretty decent to great.
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Today's episode of DS9, "The Circle," features lots of intrigue and politicking and skullduggery, but honestly, my favorite part is the scene in Kira's quarters where more and more of the cast keep piling in, talking over each other, until Vedek Bareil shows up, asks who all these people are, and after needing a moment to think of how to reply, Kira realizes, "They're my friends."   
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 Iconic! Sure, whatever.
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I don't recall that episode, judging by the uniform I guess its a later DS9 episode?
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In tonight's episode of DS9, "The Siege", Sisko, O'Brien, Bashir, Odo and a handful of officers (and Quark) remain behind on the station to hold out against the Bajoran military who arrive to seize control of it while Kira and Dax attempt to get proof of Cardassia's involvement to the leaders of Bajor's government. Lot of good moments in this one. I enjoyed the bit with Jake and Nog reaffirming their friendship before evacuating. I also appreciate that while Vedek Winn is a power-hungry extremist, even she has standards and the moment the possibility that the Circle is being manipulated by the Cardassians to allow them to resume the Occupation, she's one of the first voices to demand a full investigation. And finally, I would be remiss not to mention Bashir's epic "your mom" burn to Quark, leading to us learning that there's a Rule of Acquisition about never insulting a Ferengi's mother.
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Sir Lemming posted:
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Sir Lemming posted:
I watched a weird version of Insurrection once that didn’t have Frakes and Sirtis talking over it? Might have been a misprint or something.
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Sir Lemming posted:
not as iconic as Nemesis imho
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In the event of a water landing, I have been designed to serve as a floatation device
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Are you familiar with Gilbert and Sullivan?
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Sir Lemming posted:
My favorite Insurrection moment is the alternate commentary track where Sirtis and Frakes get increasingly blitzed and completely poo poo on the movie.
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I'd forgotten that existed. Or to watch it when I'd first heard of it. I'm instantly loving this. Quick, someone go bankrupt some TNG actors so they have to do this for more movies and episodes.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:My favorite Insurrection moment is the alternate commentary track where Sirtis and Frakes get increasingly blitzed and completely poo poo on the movie. Is this available anywhere online? It's reached almost legendary status, but I haven't that dvd or the interest in owning it, but I really want to experience their drunken commentary making GBS threads all over Frakes' movie.
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It used to be available on YouTube though I haven't checked in a while.
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there's at least one  release out there with it as one of the audio tracks
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Here is a highlight reel. https://vimeo.com/297517887
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Did I miss it or did they leave out when Frakes goes silent for a minute and says "I don't remember this part."
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Burning_Monk posted:Here is a highlight reel. I've heard goons rave about this for years and now I've finally watched it and it's genuinely as good as everybody says! Gotta find the full version
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I just watched "Message in a Bottle" and it was pretty good, but maybe someone with a better memory than me can fill in a gap: Did the EMHs kill all the Romulans? I know the plan they enacted was to use a gas to knock everyone out, and they were successful. Later in the episode though, they need more power and they shut off the life support because hey, they don't need that. Did they, uh, remember to move the unconscious Romulans to some place with life support?
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Turning off life support I've always taken to mean 'turn off oxygen generation/heat' so it's not like instant death you're gonna be fine for an hour or two before you have a problem
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One thing I like in TNG was that when life support was cut things usually got hot, since in space getting rid of heat is the harder thing.
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Gaz-L posted:Turning off life support I've always taken to mean 'turn off oxygen generation/heat' so it's not like instant death you're gonna be fine for an hour or two before you have a problem The size of Starfleet ships you'd have days at least. Possibly weeks. What would actually kill you is the ship getting too hot, assuming the cooling systems are life support. Space is a giant thermos. Next thing would be CO2 buildup. You'd never survive long enough to run down the oxygen in a Galaxy class.
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Given that they're both medical specialists and presumably programmed to do no harm (at the very least, Voyager's EMH is), I doubt they would have taken a course of action that would have put the unconscious Romulans in a life-threatening predicament, even if they were a hostile force. Speaking of life-threatening predicaments, in tonight's episode of DS9, "Invasive Procedures," Lex Luthor's dad (assisted by Tuvok pretending to be a Klingon for some reason) attempts to kidnap and join with the Dax symbiont, putting Jadzia's life in jeopardy. Good episode, lots of good character moments from Sisko, Quark and Bashir. That said, a bit disappointed that we got another Dax episode where Jadzia gets sidelined and has to be rescued by the rest of the crew.
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Well if life support included the holodecks, holodeck withdrawals have in server cases been known to be fatal within 48 hrs so that's probably what's going to take out most of the crew first.
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The EMH wouldn’t kill the Romulans but the ECH would mow them down without a second thought
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The EMH can't respect all life, otherwise they'd never disinfect anything. Maybe Zimmerman "forgot" to include Romulans as the kind of life that shan't be harmed.
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They use electroplasma to conduct power throughout the ship so if the power is on it gets pretty hot pretty fast without the a/c
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Everything on the ship being powered by plasma siphoned directly out of the warp core is one of those loving crazy things I never think about. Is the plasma going through the electronics themselves? Like is there plasma running through the light bulb next to my bed? What psychopath came up with this? Is it the same guy filling the ship with rocks?
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Grand Fromage posted:filling the ship with rocks Go on.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Go on. Starfleet ships are full of rocks so there's debris to hit you in the face when consoles explode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwNXQEX2eE&t=807s for example.
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The rocks are the plasma. It's special plasma that instantly petrifies in an emergency. It's not perfect but you'd rather get a face full of rocks over plasma, trust me.
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Grand Fromage posted:What psychopath came up with this? Is it the same guy filling the ship with rocks? Starfleet engineering motto: "We're the psychopaths that came up with that!"
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No wonder it seems like everyone in Starfleet is stoned all the time.
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Atlas Hugged posted:No wonder it seems like everyone in Starfleet is stoned all the time. I’m going to stone you for how terrible that joke is.
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Arivia posted:I’m going to stone you for how terrible that joke is. It's just a bit of earth humor.
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Lest we all forget that episode where the ship’s computer mixed THC into the oxygen supply. 1,000 parts per million.
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Atlas Hugged posted:It's just a bit of earth humor. lol that rocks
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