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Some random person on Twitter claims that artillery ammo production by BAE Systems in the UK will be drastically increased "in the near future": https://twitter.com/cameron19460429/status/1733670684700594436 I can't find a good source for this though, so not sure how true it is. What is true is that Ukraine needs the west to actually start making more ammo for them, the Russians have definitely already ramped up their production. It was also in the news recently that Finland will increase its artillery ammo production to aid Ukraine, however that won't be enough by itself
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Dec 10, 2023 14:48
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Apparently Russia is happy with the current US status. https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins-pals-think-the-gop-just-won-them-the-war-in-ukraine Propagandists are being pretty clear about where the problem is in the USA, and how they anticipate it helping Russia in this war.
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Dec 10, 2023 19:04
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Is there anyway Europe is able to step up support?
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Dec 10, 2023 19:06
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Gucci Loafers posted:Is there anyway Europe is able to step up support? Is Europe able to step up? Absolutely. But it would require money, time, and the will to do it. I'm not sure sure they have all of that. Some countries are more willing than others (some are a flat no, like Hungary) but it would probably still take a lot of time and the war might be over (not in Ukraines favor) by the time the production of arms gets underway. Many EU countries are already in the process of increasing arms production for things like artillery shells but it's not going to make up for losing US arms if and when that happens.
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Dec 10, 2023 19:30
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Considering the dogshit state the Russian army is in, I reckon that if US cuts out all support to Ukraine they will still be able to defend Ukraine (presuming Europe continues to support), but any hope of liberation for currently occupied territory will be lost.
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Dec 10, 2023 20:40
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Just about the entire Ukrainian state is paid for with foreign aid money: Pensions, soldier's wages, etc.
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Dec 10, 2023 20:43
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Keisari posted:Considering the dogshit state the Russian army is in, I reckon that if US cuts out all support to Ukraine they will still be able to defend Ukraine (presuming Europe continues to support), but any hope of liberation for currently occupied territory will be lost. On the one hand this benefits Russia because as far as most of its leadership class is concerned, this cost them nothing and can do it again for slightly more land whenever they think they have the advantage On the other, it's gonna be a long time before they have anything resembling an advantage again
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Dec 10, 2023 20:45
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In Finland there's this crazy putinist guy, who earlier in his life got a legit PhD and docenture from Uni Helsinki, but then went insane and was hired by (probably) Putin and started spewing massive amounts of Putin's propaganda. Article (in Finnish) about his latest claims The main interesting thing about this is that Russia, as is known, always accuses others of doing the exact same things it is doing itself; and one of the accusations is a planned terrorist strike against a western passenger jet. Says Bäckman: "The West plots to crash a Finnish or Swedish airliner near the Åland Islands. According to Bäckman, Russia could then be blamed for the crash, just as it happened with the downing of MH17 over Ukraine, giving it an excuse to occupy the Baltic Sea and Åland." So if you switch "The West" and "Russia" in the above, you get Russia's plan. Luckily Russia is not, realistically, in any position to be able to occupy Åland or anything else in the Baltic
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Dec 10, 2023 21:05
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DarklyDreaming posted:On the one hand this benefits Russia because as far as most of its leadership class is concerned, this cost them nothing and can do it again for slightly more land whenever they think they have the advantage I didn't mean that any treaty would be signed, just that it would likely stagnate into trench warfare. But yeah, we can't allow Russia to just consolidate and try this poo poo again in 20 years.
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Dec 10, 2023 21:18
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Just about the entire Ukrainian state is paid for with foreign aid money: Pensions, soldier's wages, etc. Ukraine’s economy is still functioning, though on a war footing. With all the support sent to Ukraine, stopping it now would almost guarantee no or very limited returns on said support. What is going on in Washington is political theatre. In regards to the NS pipeline, it is simple. If it were not blown up or some other act of god disabled it, Gazprom/Russia would still be required to pay Germany and any other EU states they had deals with for failing to provide what was stated in their contracts. Gazprom has by far benefited the most with the pipeline being blown up.
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Dec 10, 2023 21:21
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jaete posted:In Finland there's this crazy putinist guy, who earlier in his life got a legit PhD and docenture from Uni Helsinki, but then went insane and was hired by (probably) Putin and started spewing massive amounts of Putin's propaganda. Article (in Finnish) about his latest claims Why the hell would ”the West” need to fabricate an excuse to put military in… a Western country that is now part of NATO?
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Dec 10, 2023 22:27
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lilljonas posted:Why the hell would ”the West” need to fabricate an excuse to put military in… a Western country that is now part of NATO? The claim was about the Åland Islands specifically. https://peace.ax/en/the-demilitarisation-of-aland-in-a-nutshell/
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Dec 10, 2023 22:31
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/10/hungary-viktor-orban-republicans-ukraine-aid It's about Orban's support of Putin, his sabotage of the EU response, and the coordination of the far-right Internationale. For some reason I thought the Heritage Foundation was more of a Koch-like libertarian dystopia think tank, less of a MAGA one, but I guess I can't keep all the assholes straight. Not paywalled, so I'll just post the intro: quote:Allies of Hungary’s far-right prime minister Viktor Orbán will hold a closed-door meeting with Republicans in Washington to push for an end to US military support for Ukraine, the Guardian has learned. And one particularly gross excerpt: quote:Hungary has been portrayed by conservative media as an anti-“woke” paradise and model for the United States. Some far-right Republicans, such as Kari Lake and Paul Gosar, said they would like to see the “Hungarian model” transplanted to the US, especially when it comes to immigration and family policies. CPAC went to Hungary for the second time this year, and former Fox News host Tucker Carlson shot multiple episodes in Hungary touting Orbán policies.
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Dec 11, 2023 01:53
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Quixzlizx posted:Not paywalled, so I'll just post the intro: Probably worth mentioning that all these regressive "anti-woke" & "family oriented" authoritarian states like Hungary or Russia actually have piss poor birth rates that are lower than the countries supposedly living under the brutal yoke of the gay agenda like Scandinavia or France.
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Dec 11, 2023 02:37
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I've been away from news sources for a couple months, and I've lost track of where this whole situation is sitting. Could someone throw me a summary of the last couple months or link a reliable source that can provide a rundown?
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Dec 11, 2023 02:42
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GABA ghoul posted:Probably worth mentioning that all these regressive "anti-woke" & "family oriented" authoritarian states like Hungary or Russia actually have piss poor birth rates that are lower than the countries supposedly living under the brutal yoke of the gay agenda like Scandinavia or France. I'm sure they say that the birth-rates in wokeland are due to white replacement.
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Dec 11, 2023 02:58
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jaete posted:Some random person on Twitter claims that artillery ammo production by BAE Systems in the UK will be drastically increased "in the near future": Seems optimistic. The UK signed £2.4 billion 15 year deal for ammunition back in 2020 https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2020/11/30/bae-systems-gets-32-billion-deal-so-british-forces-can-reload/ "Figures provided by MoD estimate BAE will annually produce approximately 70 million rounds of small-arms ammunition, 100,000 large-caliber rounds, 40,000 medium-caliber shells and 75,000 mortar rounds." Additional funding in 2023 added £410 million to that. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-boosts-munitions-order-to-410m-amidst-ukraine-crisis/#comments "The expanded £410m contract will facilitate further investment in the defence sector. Key areas of investment include an additional 155mm machining line in Washington, Tyne & Wear, the establishment of a novel explosive filling facility in Glascoed, South Wales, and the revival of 30mm medium calibre manufacturing capabilities at both Washington and Glascoed locations." Maybe if you by "in the near future" mean when these new facilities are built and the new, not yet fully tested Next Generation Adaptable Ammunition - which BAE says will be cheaper and easier to produce comes into frutition. NGAA sales blurb at Defence and Security Equipment International 2023 https://www.edrmagazine.eu/bae-syst...-at-lower-costs "How far away is the NGAA? “We plan to demonstrate it in late 2023,” the speakers announced, EDR On-Line understanding that the demo will encompass all the major elements of the new round."
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Dec 11, 2023 05:29
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Question on Hungary. Does Orban's government actually represent the general public sentiment and general hostility towards supporting Ukraine?
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Dec 11, 2023 13:58
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Burns posted:Question on Hungary. Does Orban's government actually represent the general public sentiment and general hostility towards supporting Ukraine? In the State? Hell no, people in Budapest hate his loving balls. It isn't until you get into the suburbs or rural areas that he's actually liked.
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Dec 11, 2023 14:07
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country folk like him city folk hate him
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Dec 11, 2023 18:22
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IshmaelZarkov posted:I've been away from news sources for a couple months, and I've lost track of where this whole situation is sitting. It´s not primarily a summary but this Perun video does cover the broad strokes of the last few months: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIKiFAKMoi0
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Dec 11, 2023 18:58
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Tatarigami with his insights on the current fronts: https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1734305286989533596#m Russians on the offensive along several fronts exploiting limited Ukrainian reserves seems to be the summary. Did not realize that Mari’nka is in serious trouble.
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Dec 11, 2023 23:44
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Burns posted:Question on Hungary. Does Orban's government actually represent the general public sentiment and general hostility towards supporting Ukraine? Depends on what you mean because the general reaction is not that dissimilar than you would see in the US for example. What I mean is that if people are Anti-Ukraine that's mostly because the media said so and currently almost every traditional media is run by actors close to the state. So people who are anti-Ukraine are because they consume state media, people who are pro-ukraine are so because they consume international media. It doesn't matter that they are a neighbouring state, the war feels like a far off thing and while there are some historical conflicts and issues with Hungarian expats in Ukraine most people outside of crazy nationalists and conspiracy theorists don't really care.
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Dec 12, 2023 12:06
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Cross posting: https://twitter.com/cvetko35/status/1734625122529550455 There have apparently been several rallies like this, with women marching and demanding an end to the war which is devouring their sons and husbands and fathers.
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Dec 12, 2023 18:53
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There probably wouldn’t be a mobilization and so much death if Russia just went back across the border and stopped slaughtering the Ukrainian people in their own country?
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Dec 12, 2023 19:01
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Cool vatnik repost bot you got there.
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Dec 12, 2023 19:06
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ummel posted:Cool vatnik repost bot you got there. yeah wtf is this lol
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Dec 12, 2023 19:15
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Dandywalken posted:yeah wtf is this lol An Obvious troll?
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Dec 12, 2023 19:20
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Cross posting: I'm surprised, such protests are usually broken up quickly by the police
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Dec 12, 2023 19:21
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ohh I see, it's in Ukraine
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Dec 12, 2023 19:21
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Cross posting: I posted about that protest, it's from a couple of weeks ago. They are not regular and not high in numbers. They also don't demand 'an end to the war', they demand demobilisation, just like wives and relatives of the mobilised in Russia.
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Dec 12, 2023 20:24
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Possible evidence of GLSDB use in Ukraine. Apparently there were more delays. https://youtu.be/O1jTFp1lcZY?si=iE8397IuwnvfeTB3
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Dec 12, 2023 20:42
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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/zelensky-biden-visit-12-12-23/h_fb4626cce0c7f77ad27221f3e0a9512a CNN notes the shift in terms from 'as long as it takes' to 'as long as possible'.
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Dec 12, 2023 23:58
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MikeC posted:https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/zelensky-biden-visit-12-12-23/h_fb4626cce0c7f77ad27221f3e0a9512a In the context of the need for the Republicans to end their obstruction. Far more interesting is that Biden said We want Ukraine to win the war , a clarity that was gone for a while from the WH.
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Dec 13, 2023 00:21
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If true, that seems impactful https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-intelligence-attacks-paralyses-russias-134100691.html quote:: "During the special operation, military spies managed to break into one of the well-protected key central servers of the Federal Taxation Service (FTS of the Russian Federation), and then into more than 2,300 of its regional servers throughout Russia, as well as on the territory of temporarily occupied Crimea.
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Dec 13, 2023 01:11
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They're claiming to have destroyed the primary and backup databases for most/all of Russia. God drat. And that they got a copy of stuff for themselves  quote:In addition, Internet traffic of tax data on the scale of the whole of Russia ended up in the hands of the military intelligence of Ukraine. Wonder what interesting nuggets might be in there. Nervous fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Dec 13, 2023 05:32
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I'm particularly amused because before this war everyone was terrified of Russian cyberwarfare and talking about how it could be used to paralyze their opponents. That's aged about as well as the talk about Russia having the second strongest army in the world.
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Dec 13, 2023 06:15
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Bremen posted:I'm particularly amused because before this war everyone was terrified of Russian cyberwarfare and talking about how it could be used to paralyze their opponents. That's aged about as well as the talk about Russia having the second strongest army in the world.
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Dec 13, 2023 06:43
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Cross posting: from where, dare i ask
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"In priority frontline sectors, we have the following ratio: one of our drones to five or seven enemy drones", says some Ukrainian army guy This seems pretty concerning - even if Ukraine gets more aid etc, how would they attack into such a mass of drones? Maybe just have to... go around? As I understand it anti-drone tech isn't exactly great yet on either side, so not sure if a remedy even exists. Here's some random guy also saying that drones have already become a big deal especially on the Russian side (short thread): https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1734328740610511296
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