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Raskolnikov38 posted:so wait, it’s now impossible to scramble more than a jet or two at like 5 minutes notice? Basically yeah. We have a QRF North with 2x Typhoons, a QRF South with 2x Typhoons and a QRF Falkland, and that's our whole complement to deal with unforeseen air threats. Mostly they just scramble to intercept private pilots whose transponders have died. Nothing else is even kept armed, unless they are going to the training range. Pistol_Pete posted:It's the UK: we don't HAVE more than a jet or two available anyway, so it doesn't make a deal of difference. also this QRF North sometimes has to go and wave off the Tu-95s the Russians have been sending over to probe our airspace since the Cold War, but this is quite ritualised by now. It gets in the papers sometimes like it's a huge provocation, but mostly they literally just wave at each other and everyone goes home, I feel sorry for the poor guys who've come all the way over from Russia as a formality, stuck in the ancient bone-shaking turboprop plane for hours just to get turned around and go back the way they came.
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(noosphere from mechanicus playing on the background) the troops investigate every home under the leaden skies searching for their objective. they know that their person is here; born in the timeframe who had contact and familiarity with the Old System, and they had proof. "65 isn't that old I suppose", the man with the flannel and a shirt with the cover of "Turn On The Bright Lights" from the band Interpol mused to himself. The platoons were getting close to his place. He gets a little nervous, but it's alright, can't be him; then the troops come below, he listens to their steps on the stairs. What he has done? A couple of firm knocks on the door. He is paralyzed, cannot move; they break in. The sergeant looks very happy. "Hey Steve, we've been looking for you." He delivers a warrant of conscription. "STEPHEN SMITH --- AOL COMPUSERVE INTERNET/WINDOWS XP COURSE". Maybe they could now manage to put the goddamned correct data into the missile batteries
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Raskolnikov38 posted:so wait, it’s now impossible to scramble more than a jet or two at like 5 minutes notice? Depends on the jet and mission. Some of the most simple missions from a scramble perspective are things like putting a couple fighters with a pre-loaded pure air to air loadout into the sky, operating in a general area they had already planned to (stuff like standing NORAD aerospace control alert missions). But you can't just make a phone call and 5 minutes later have aircraft ready for complex air to ground strike up in the air, hitting a dynamic surface or ground target. Regardless, "5 minutes" is like pilots literally sitting inside the cockpit or 10 feet away, fully dressed just waiting to go, and that's very rare for any nation at all to pull day to day (this mission consumes the aircraft and crew just about as much as flying the airplane). 10 or 15 minutes gives you a LOT more leeway even to have a person a whole 150 yards away doing training or operations or something instead of just sitting around pissing in a bottle or a porta-shitter next to the airplanes. mlmp08 has issued a correction as of 15:29 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/MSCSealift/status/1734935132640096558 Looks like poo poo
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it hasnt even been accepted into service and its already filthy and pitted with rust, the navy'll love it
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predistressed just how the kids like their jeans will def help with recruitment
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Frosted Flake posted:Do you think the whitewall tyres are the same as the standard tyres but with appliqué, or do they have a production line and supply chain for whitewalls? Regular (new) tires sprayed with a mask typrically
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why don't they just upgrade the planes to ssd
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ram dass in hell posted:why don't they just upgrade the planes to ssd
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The USNS Cody was only launched in March 2023.
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It’s funny when you do see a block of a system (plane, radar, command center, whatever) transitioned over to even a comparatively bulky, ruggedized SSD or chips from legacy cold war or zip / HDD tech. Open a 4 foot tall panel and it’s instead turned to spare storage with a computer box the size of a shoebox mounted inside. or with space saved from removing some ancient computer, they’ve added a whiteboard inside
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Ardennes posted:The USNS Cody was only launched in March 2023. they named a ship Cody? lol
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my boats tyler and braden
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USS Kayleigh
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They all look like that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearhead-class_expeditionary_fast_transport
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Lostconfused posted:They all look like that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearhead-class_expeditionary_fast_transport quote:The ship is unstable in rough seas and at high speeds. At 10 knots in calm sea states the hull can roll up to four degrees to each side, while conventional ships would roll very little; this increases if the ship goes faster or in rougher conditions, raising the possibility of seasickness.[10] To achieve its top speed the ship has to be traveling in waters not exceeding sea state 3 (waves up to 1.25 m (4.1 ft) high). At sea state 4 it can travel at up to 15 knots, at only 5 knots in sea state 5, and has to hold position in any higher sea state. This reflects the ship's purpose of operating close to shore rather than in "blue-water".[18]
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mawarannahr posted:nice ackstually it has a 20 knot secret top speed, allowing it to outrun any chinese missile
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readiness problems? what if we took a small fraction of the mic grift fund and used it to generously raise enlisted pay across the board and reform military life to make it more appealing? ...no, surely it is better to make autonomous ships and have contractors maintain them....
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i would simply design a boat that was seaworthy
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Griz posted:the Italian thing can shoot down anti-ship missiles and now they have a guided shell with 40km range Going by this thread I assume the guided shell is useless
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i think all shells should cost five thousand dollars… five thousand dollars per shell… you know why? cause if a shell cost five thousand dollars there would be no more war. yeah! every time somebody gets invaded we’d say, ‘drat, they must have done something ... poo poo, they've got fifty thousand dollars worth of shells dropped on their rear end. and people would think before they started a war if a shell cost five thousand dollars. man i would invade your loving country…if i could afford it!!!
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Cookie Cutter posted:Ah, there is also a USAF base at Lakenheath in Suffolk that has F-15s and F-35s, I don't know what state of readiness they are in, but it wouldn't surprise me if they had their own armed/quick response force of some kind NATO.txt
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Justin Tyme posted:readiness problems? what if we took a small fraction of the mic grift fund and used it to generously raise enlisted pay across the board and reform military life to make it more appealing?
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lol the boat is built by some bloody aussies quote:Austal USA is an American shipbuilder based on Blakeley Island in Mobile, Alabama. It is a subsidiary of the Australian shipbuilder Austal, operating under a Special Security Arrangement which allows it to work independently and separately on some of the most sensitive United States defense programs despite its foreign ownership.[3] AUKUS! *click*
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Cookie Cutter posted:Eurofighter is a bit like this as well. It can take a fair while to load mission and map data - I spent countless hours shivering in a cold HAS on night shift hunched over a ruggedised Windows XP terminal getting the designated flyers ready for the next morning. I've got a brilliant idea, next generation ultra stealth fighter with intrgrated Google Maps to save time on downloading mission data. That'll be two and half trillion dollars please
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that's the same company that built the horrible LCS that dissolved in sea water
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Griz posted:that's the same company that built the horrible LCS that dissolved in sea water critical support for aus scamming america
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Raskolnikov38 posted:so wait, it’s now impossible to scramble more than a jet or two at like 5 minutes notice? not like you need to scramble a jet when its mission profile mainly consists of bombing weddings mawarannahr posted:nice loving lmao forever
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Cerebral Bore posted:loving lmao forever im the most honest guy building a slower 1500 ton cargo boat that also costs more than what china charges for a 100K ton cargo vessel
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I wonder what the Russian and Chinese fighter planes have for uploading mission data or whatever
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Slavvy posted:I wonder what the Russian and Chinese fighter planes have for uploading mission data or whatever telegram/wechat attachment
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brokenwookie posted:I'm reading it as much worse; 2,500 sorties in 9 weeks (63 days.) Navy's goal of 4,800 in 30 days (~ 4 weeks.) only quarter bad.
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mawarannahr posted:nice thats weird why would a transport meant for expeditionary warfare be unstable in high seas quote:The design is a derivative of the Hawaii Superferry, also built by Austal USA.[17] yeah it's because your Spearhead-class Badass Definitely Military Spec Expeditionary Fast Transport is actually this  but it doesn't stop there because why, you ask, would you choose to base an expeditionary fast transport design on an obsolete passenger ferry? quote:Ferry operations were suspended in March 2009 after the Hawaii Supreme Court ruled that a state law allowing the Superferry to operate without a second complete environmental impact statement was unconstitutional.[2] The company went bankrupt as a result of these actions preventing service in Hawaii.[3] On July 2, 2009 a Delaware Bankruptcy Court granted the company's motion to abandon both the ships Alakai and Huakai, ending all possibilities that the company might return to Hawaii;[4] the ships were bought by the US Maritime Administration in 2010.[5] The United States Navy eventually purchased the craft for a total of $35M, a small fraction of their original $180M cost.[6] Oh yeah it's the secondary fallout from the US government doing an incestuous reach-around to bail Austal and a company called Hawaii Superferry out of their decision to launch a passenger ferry service using boats that can't meet state environmental regulations back in the 2000s, rejecting those boats for military sealift service, and then subsequently leasing them back to a ferry operators in places with less stringent maritime environmental laws 
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The Oldest Man posted:thats weird why would a transport meant for expeditionary warfare be unstable in high seas Is it possible that shuttering all state shipyards, and the only remaining shipyards that aren't overseas being limited to ferries had some sort of... consequences?  We're truly the stupidest society.  e: It's very funny that they just painted the ferry grey and that seems to be the extent of it. Surely crossing the pacific in wartime will be nbd.
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Frosted Flake posted:e: It's very funny that they just painted the ferry grey and that seems to be the extent of it. Surely crossing the pacific in wartime will be nbd. For the USNS Guam that's literally true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Guam For the new ones they did some nice cost+ modifications like painting a circle on the back for helicopters that *checks notes* tripled the cost loving incredible grift that they can claim it has 80% parts commonality with the original ferry design as some kind of "we used proven designs" benefit and simultaneously jack the unit price up by 300%
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Delivering ships that just work on time and on budget doesn't seem like a strategy that delivers maximum value to the shareholders. Better to invoke those additional payment clauses and make sure the purchaser is welded to your hip for ongoing maintenance at premium prices.
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The Oldest Man posted:For the USNS Guam that's literally true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Guam "USNS Guam (T-HST-1), formerly Hawaii Superferry's Huakai, is a United States Navy high-speed transport vessel. The ship was completed in September 2008 and was intended to start Hawaiian service in May 2009, though delivery postponements saw that planned service canceled. In the Hawaiian language, huakaʻi means "journey". The design of the Spearhead-class expeditionary fast transport is 70 percent in common with the Hawaii Superferries, both built by Austal USA." So, obviously this one shipyard and the ferry line are politically connected. What's the deal here?
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