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YOLOsubmarine posted:It’s easy to blame McDaniels because that’s two years in a row of QBs looking way worse under him than they did immediately before. Garappolo looked like complete poo poo this year. One year of Mac Jones looking middling is the only thing McDaniels has to his name and I think it’s fair to call that a fluke at this point. Jimmy never really looked right after the foot injury unfortunately McDaniels was a bad coach but Carr also played like poo poo. Both can be true
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Nodoze posted:Jimmy never really looked right after the foot injury unfortunately Carr played like poo poo because McDaniels is a bad coach. He’s an average talent so he’s not good enough to overcome bad coaching. Garappolo looked like poo poo because he’s also an average talent who was playing in a lovely offense. McDaniels was a net drain on the Raiders.
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The patriots are kinda intriguing for the whole. Do you really want to follow the greatest coach of all time or at least the modern era? Thems some big shoes to fill.
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Bill has graciously made sure no one will expect anything from the Patriots without a massive roster overhaul. I'd be more worried for whatever QB gets drafted there having the pressure of following Brady (as everyone pretends Mac Jones never happened).
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I just don't want Marvin Harrison to end up a patriot
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You never want to be the guy that follows the Guy, but as long as we avoid a chip kelly style outing I'll be happy
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They could turn it around pretty quick if they get the right coach/GM in and nail this draft. They have a lot of work to do obviously, but they have a poo poo load of money available and a high draft pick
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Phobeste posted:You never want to be the guy that follows the Guy, but as long as we avoid a chip kelly style outing I'll be happy Kelly's first year was really entertaining and inadvertently led to a Super Bowl though.
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Nodoze posted:They could turn it around pretty quick if they get the right coach/GM in and nail this draft. They have a lot of work to do obviously, but they have a poo poo load of money available and a high draft pick The Texans show that it’s possible to have an immediate turnaround (until all your players abruptly die). You have to nail everything though and do we really expect the Krafts to do that? Firing Bill means you have to rebuild EVERYTHING, the whole front office was built in his image as well. Maybe you hit on DeMeco/Stroud or Zac Taylor/Burrow but it seems equally or more likely to get Gase/Darnold or Reich/Young or McDaniels/Jimmy or Hackett/Russ or …… I’m glad they’ll be taking the swing. Just tempering my expectations as there’s a high chance it fails because this poo poo is hard.
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I just hope they get a former coordinator and not a guy from the minors that poo poo never works
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Nodoze posted:They could turn it around pretty quick if they get the right coach/GM in and nail this draft. They have a lot of work to do obviously, but they have a poo poo load of money available and a high draft pick All they need to do is land a top 10 QB, a top 10 Coaching staff, and totally rebuild the roster on offense. Do that and they'll be in the mix in the AFC.
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Phobeste posted:I just hope they get a former coordinator and not a guy from the minors that poo poo never works Graziano says it might be Mayo: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10100945-patriots-rumors-jerod-mayo-replacing-bill-belichick-seen-as-most-likely-outcome
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SKULL.GIF posted:Graziano says it might be Mayo: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10100945-patriots-rumors-jerod-mayo-replacing-bill-belichick-seen-as-most-likely-outcome So continuing to suck it is
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McDaniels can finally get his wish to coach the Patriots again!
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God it would be so funny if the Patriots promoted Belichick's weird doofus son.
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New England getting owned by a Patriots Way Belichick disciple would be disappointing but also extremely appropriate
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After Bill is canned, will Steve Belichick ever work in pro football again?
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I mean the defense is really good with all their best players injured, so yeah probably gonna get a job.
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He did, Mayo is the official DC, but Steve's been the LB coach since 2020 and was the secondary / safeties coach before that, and those groups have generally played much higher then their talent level. He may bomb out without daddy around, but he'll definitely get another chance.
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Hmm is the defense playing well because of noted defensive mastermind Bill belichick or his weird son who makes dumb faces and was handed his job despite having no idea how go do it
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Docjowles posted:The Texans show that it’s possible to have an immediate turnaround (until all your players abruptly die). You have to nail everything though and do we really expect the Krafts to do that? Firing Bill means you have to rebuild EVERYTHING, the whole front office was built in his image as well. I've said it over and over. You have to start with the assumption that any first time HC or GM is bad until they prove otherwise. Same with rookie QBs. The Patriots need ALL THREE. It is highly unlikely they get it all right first try.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Hmm is the defense playing well because of noted defensive mastermind Bill belichick or his weird son who makes dumb faces and was handed his job despite having no idea how go do it It is impossible to kno
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R.D. Mangles posted:After Bill is canned, will Steve Belichick ever work in pro football again? Steve Belicheck would be far from the only garbage coordinator coasting off his father's success in the NFL.
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R.D. Mangles posted:After Bill is canned, will Steve Belichick ever work in pro football again? Turns out all those “Belichick to the Chargers, Bears, or Washington” clickbait articles didn’t specify which Belichick it is, and one fan base is in for a big surprise.
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Kalli posted:He did, Mayo is the official DC, but Steve's been the LB coach since 2020 and was the secondary / safeties coach before that, and those groups have generally played much higher then their talent level. He may bomb out without daddy around, but he'll definitely get another chance. Something tells me Bill might enjoy talking shop with his son even after he's retired.
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Bill is the one who taught Tom to kiss his sons.
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sexy tiger boobs posted:Bill is the one who taught Tom to kiss his sons.  When it's been too long since Dad kissed your on the mouth
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what is all this "hope they turn it around" nonsense? gently caress that, i want the Pats to suffer 1000 years of darkness or have to take up Miami's old spot of perpetual mediocrity. no good things for Boston fans and certainly not for the goddamn Pats
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Has any division ever had a worse collection of coaches than what the NFCS has had this season?
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Has any division ever had a worse collection of coaches than what the NFCS has had this season? I nominate the 2009 NFC West. Spagnuolo, Whisenhunt, Jim Mora, Singletary.
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This is a fun game to play. I don't think they win but 2009 AFC West: Josh McDaniels, Todd Haley, Tom Cable, Norv Turner. When you make Norv the best head coach by far on the list you are putting a little work in.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I nominate the 2009 NFC West. Spagnuolo, Whisenhunt, Jim Mora, Singletary. oh christ
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Grittybeard posted:This is a fun game to play. I don't think they win but 2009 AFC West: Josh McDaniels, Todd Haley, Tom Cable, Norv Turner. Yeah but Todd Haley gave us some all-time classic gifs so it's hard to argue we didn't at least get some entertainment out of that.
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Grittybeard posted:This is a fun game to play. You can narrow the candidates down by thinking about eras. The AFC North/Central is probably right out thanks to the Steelers, ditto the AFC East (Belichick, Levy, Shula). NFC North/Central (Ditka, Holmgren, Green etc). So for the last few decades, that leaves the two West divisions, the two South divisions, and possibly a few in-between years for the NFC East. For the NFC East I think 2015 comes closest but Garrett and Coughlin both had decent bodies of work outside these two years. 2015: Jay Gruden, Chip Kelly, 6-10 Coughlin, 4-12 Garrett. 1997: Jim Fassel, Norv Turner, Ray Rhodes, Barry Switzer, Vince Tobin.
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2018 NFCN probably gets saved by McCarthy’s season this year. Besides big Mike, Zimmer, Nagy, and Patricia e: huh, a Mike, another Mike, and a Matt and a Matt Pontius Pilate fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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2002 NFC North: Mike Sherman, Mike Tice, Dick Jauron, and Marty Mornhinweg.
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