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Mr. Nice! posted:in crypto news we can all enjoy: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/crypto/sbfs-lawyer-says-client-was-worst-witness-hes-ever-seen Dude seems decent on the whole, for a multi-millionaire lawyer who owns a jet. Lmao that he let his friendship with the parents convince himself the SBF "had no intent to do crime". This pic of SBF is incredible tho 
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lol sorry everyone i told Expo70 to go full power cuz i wanted to see what would happen
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Shame Boy posted:lol sorry everyone i told Expo70 to go full power cuz i wanted to see what would happen Don't apologize, this is a neat development.
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kalensc posted:Dude seems decent on the whole, for a multi-millionaire lawyer who owns a jet. Lmao that he let his friendship with the parents convince himself the SBF "had no intent to do crime". i refuse to believe that's not a photoshop of his head on someone else, it's completely out of scale
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lolquote:The verdict was inevitable, Mills says, but he doesn’t believe the trial was fair. “I think he is innocent because he didn’t form the intent to do anything wrong,” he says. wired: sam did not form the intent to do anything wrong
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kalensc posted:Dude seems decent on the whole, for a multi-millionaire lawyer who owns a jet. Lmao that he let his friendship with the parents convince himself the SBF "had no intent to do crime". there's better sbf pictures out there imo, the one where he's sitting with his wingtips untied and there's a bunch of garbage surrounding him on a plane (not to be confused with the pic of him sitting in a pile of garbage in like a server room or something)
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FAUXTON posted:Mfer wants to make the AC from I have no mouth, and I must scream but with TRUST written on every nanoangstrom of its circuitry Big "media literacy is dead" energy in this post. Ellison's entire thesis is he already thinks humans *ARE* AM and that like all technology all it does is amplify us, that's the entire point of the story. it doesn't work specifically because Ellison is an emotionally stunted child king who is completely obsessed with externalized authority because he cannot act with authority towards his own life. All these guys are always playing waiting-games of projection. "I cannot grow until arbitrary, constantly marching condition is satisfied". they externalize their inadequacy as the fault of the world, and then whenever anybody else actually has external problems they attack that violently to try and protect their own egos as it reminds them of their own failures. Its why they crave distance from everybody else, and its why they're all lonely. everybody from Ellis to Buck Minster Fuller is "obsessed" with "resolving" existential anxieties, so they can put off growing as people. this is the cult of the bestand. quote:Bestand is stockpiling. Row upon row of big box houses, waiting to be inhabited. Terabyte after terabyte of memory. Stockpiling is the art of zeugma -- the yoking of things you hear in phrases such as "wave upon wave", or "bumper to bumper". Stockpiling is the dominant mode of social existence. they are selfish boy kings who have no concept of induced demand, and are shocked when people want to be near them, viewing closeness as threat to their existential mission. he who thinks his ignorance will shield him from pain, not realizing the crushing debt that catches up and crushes every one of these guys around the time they turn 50 which is why they all go bonkers. Its the root cause of the midlife crisis. With this in mind: I don't think our friend is building AM. btw the radioplay is the best version because at some point Ellison got a huge smack to the face of realism when he had to do it with other people and seriously revised it. edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FJ8pTK8N8I He is the voice of AM here. If your only experience of the story is the game, you are experiencing a completely lobotomized version of the story that buys into Ellison's bullshit, instead of exposing his worst tendencies to become a good interesting piece of literature by peeking at the mind of an existentially lonely frightened man. edit: oh nm you were joking, I'm too in the ExpoZone to notice lmao sorry Shame Boy posted:i refuse to believe that's not a photoshop of his head on someone else, it's completely out of scale behold, facial lens distortion   remember every 1990's grunge band did this in their videos? they'd also do fisheye on the guitar for some reason, from an angle the audience found incomprehensible. good times. Expo70 fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Xathal posted:I own the Truth Beam trademark, and have patents pending on the technology, so I have some legal standing to prevent such scurrilous behaviour. Trivial for dorks like us sure, but will it be trivial for Uncle Dave who just saw a video of Biden saying he loves communism on Facebook and is thinking about sharing it? In order for this to have any practical utility it needs to be something that grandma can do easily.
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haveblue posted:buttcoin ✓ This post has been Truth Beam® verified!
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cool we have a new statpedia guy who's going to post about his dumb idea and then wonder why nobody is interested
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Sweevo posted:cool we have a new statpedia guy who's going to post about his dumb idea and then wonder why nobody is interested i'm interested! i mean the idea's unworkable and if it ever did take off it would immediately acquire torment nexus attributes, but i'm interested in how weird it is at least!
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Expo70 posted:Big "media literacy is dead" energy in this post. imo these people are at their core lazy - emotionally and intellectually - so they delegate social interaction to various collected baubles and gadgets because having a dog is too much effort, finding and learning a satisfying hobby is too much work, and finding a friend requires too much attention. Folks who hide behind walls like that have their "map" of the world fade away to be replaced with "HERE BE DRAGONS" because to endure anything else would question the walls they spent so much money erecting. They're defending their purchase because it's the lowest cost option. It's not a fear of personal growth so much as it is a fear of making the effort understanding others, the effort learning new things, and the effort in going somewhere different. You aren't wrong on the existential anxieties being a driver of that behavior but I don't believe the anxiety is the cause so much as a displacement of laziness into a sort of questioning bargain - imagine someone asking "what if I shower and still don't have friends?" and concluding they need to have stronger and stronger cologne. That's laziness, not anxiety, they're trying to one weird trick their way through personal hygiene and social interaction. You can shower and still be an rear end in a top hat, and you can type exquisitely-proofed blocks of text but still be spewing nonsense.
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Shame Boy posted:i'm interested! i mean the idea's unworkable and if it ever did take off it would immediately acquire torment nexus attributes, but i'm interested in how weird it is at least! Maybe this is an thing we should actually discuss with him. I think if he sees an alternative, that at least would be interesting, but to know the conversation happened and was communicated in good faith would in turn be valuable.
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FAUXTON posted:You can shower and still be an rear end in a top hat boy howdy
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FAUXTON posted:imo these people are at their core lazy - emotionally and intellectually - so they delegate social interaction to various collected baubles and gadgets because having a dog is too much effort, finding and learning a satisfying hobby is too much work, and finding a friend requires too much attention. Folks who hide behind walls like that have their "map" of the world fade away to be replaced with "HERE BE DRAGONS" because to endure anything else would question the walls they spent so much money erecting. They're defending their purchase because it's the lowest cost option. It's not a fear of personal growth so much as it is a fear of making the effort understanding others, the effort learning new things, and the effort in going somewhere different. the thing I don't often see is people like us reaching out to them and forcing them to grow up showing you know how the magic trick works and then teaching that to others to humiliate them is the fastest way to break the pyramid scheme of their self-concept you do it with kindness, and by giving them actual experiences instead of trying to explain ideas to them using language which because they have no token or matching symbol on their end, its jibberish to them understanding only happens by creating experiences which can match words, because all words do is describe experiences what they don't understand is half of human experience is pain, thus to be illiterate to pain is to be illiterate to humanity its psychological variolation a vaccine of pain, of pain and of course the paranoid who deal only in sets and not in measurements fear all pain equally so they hate that idea
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like here's a hypothetical: this thing takes off and now everyone knows if there isn't a Truth Beam stamp on it, you can't trust it. a cop shoots a kid in the back while the kid is running away and then plants a gun on him. someone records it, but the only thing they have access to is an old camera that is not Truth Beam Enabled or whatever, and now there is an automatic assumption that that video isn't real, regardless of any other factor. maybe you do have a Truth Beam Enabled camera, which means when you go to record it sends out a beam of light that the cop immediately sees, realizes he's being recorded and beats the poo poo out of you. i guess in theory it could be done with IR instead, but then i 100% expect every cop in america to be wearing flashy weird pattern IR detection devices within a year. or hell maybe it creates this entirely new online caste system, where only the people educated and/or wealthy enough to afford to buy one or build one themselves and understand how to use it are allowed to arbitrate our shared understanding of objective reality as a society sorry if this seems overly negative, we've just seen a hell of a lot of "solve a social problem with technology" proposals become torment nexuses here in yospos. for example, buttcoin 
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Shame Boy posted:like here's a hypothetical: this thing takes off and now everyone knows if there isn't a Truth Beam stamp on it, you can't trust it. a cop shoots a kid in the back while the kid is running away and then plants a gun on him. someone records it, but the only thing they have access to is an old camera that is not Truth Beam Enabled or whatever, and now there is an automatic assumption that that video isn't real, regardless of any other factor. i don't think this is overly negative at all: almost every solution to a problem only solves a small problem from one side of the problem, and then creates a bigger one which it then fails to solve the real foresight is in undermining the problem instead of projecting a solution onto it that's literally the root-cause of most of Morton's hyperobjects. urgency occludes the future those who hold the torch always forget that they are spared the horror of survival more stand in the shadow of the light, than those behind the torch people forget that while ideas cannot be destroyed, they can be judged, sentenced and executed. history is defined by putting humans before ideas.
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Expo70 posted:almost every solution to a problem only solves a small problem from one side of the problem, and then creates a bigger one which it then fails to solve if you mean sweeping, general solutions to societal / social problems in particular, sure. like i don't think "polio vaccine" created bigger problems than it solved, for example
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Expo70 posted:the thing I don't often see is people like us reaching out to them and forcing them to grow up sure, but their laziness is going to be more self-reinforcing than you're letting on, because it's the lowest cost option. It's not just the foundation you're needing to kick away at, it's all the little habits reinforcing it like rebar - you get past the laziness and get to a breakthrough on "wanting to grow" and then in comes the bigotry they fostered because it justified isolation, or the performative shut-in's germophobia they developed because it justified not taking out the trash. Kindness alone isn't a panacea to this because it is in essence treating fake symptoms. A real germophobe would have more of an issue letting a stranger in to take out their trash, for example. It's not your job to face down their lies for them, they have to have the breakthrough actually forced on them - make them break down their own lies through brute force because they can't lie fast enough to keep up with your efforts at helping them. It's exhausting, though, which is why it's rarely worth the effort unless they're an older relative. on the internet, though, nobody knows you're a dog, basically.
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Shame Boy posted:like here's a hypothetical: this thing takes off and now everyone knows if there isn't a Truth Beam stamp on it, you can't trust it. a cop shoots a kid in the back while the kid is running away and then plants a gun on him. someone records it, but the only thing they have access to is an old camera that is not Truth Beam Enabled or whatever, and now there is an automatic assumption that that video isn't real, regardless of any other factor. there are things in forensics that kind of do some of the things the truth beam claims to exhibit one - matching the electricity mains hum to a recording to establish when it was taken https://robertheaton.com/enf/ exhibit two - same thing as exhibit two but the difficulty is notched up and they try to timestamp smartphone recordings based on the electric network frequency of lights in the video https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.15003
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in the end though it's possible to create arbitrary pixels and speaker oscillations the instant we know they're a way to tag something, or just lie that this is forensically valid to confuse people [see: bite mark analysis] trusting a system like this means the people who are already experts in faking evidence just get more techniques
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4lokos basilisk posted:there are things in forensics that kind of do some of the things the truth beam claims to see, this is an example of taking an idea to a relatively sensible and intentional conclusion, because they aren't claiming to be authorities of some universal concept so much as just saying they can put a timestamp on something based on an interpretation of data using a method they developed. It's not creating that negative inference by absence that "this is the truth" would. It's also not something dreamt up off-meds by someone who admits to the genuine belief that marketing should come before product.
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Mr. Nice! posted:what in the gently caress is going on itt I think I might be having a stroke
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a quick note for folks in here, if a rereg person comes back and posts, please: -ignore them -do not react to them -do not post about them -do not quote the spam posts and just wait until it can be handled. sometimes this can be a few hours. thanks!
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4lokos basilisk posted:there are things in forensics that kind of do some of the things the truth beam claims to yeah i know those things and i am terrified that someone will use them to doxx me some day lol
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Shame Boy posted:lol sorry everyone i told Expo70 to go full power cuz i wanted to see what would happen kalensc posted:Don't apologize, this is a neat development. i agree too. something different
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Programmer Humor posted:i too prefer analog computers. they just have a warmer sound, you know mechanical computers are where it's at. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loI1Kwed8Pk
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FAUXTON posted:sure, but their laziness is going to be more self-reinforcing than you're letting on, because it's the lowest cost option. It's not just the foundation you're needing to kick away at, it's all the little habits reinforcing it like rebar - you get past the laziness and get to a breakthrough on "wanting to grow" and then in comes the bigotry they fostered because it justified isolation, or the performative shut-in's germophobia they developed because it justified not taking out the trash. Kindness alone isn't a panacea to this because it is in essence treating fake symptoms. A real germophobe would have more of an issue letting a stranger in to take out their trash, for example. It's not your job to face down their lies for them, they have to have the breakthrough actually forced on them - make them break down their own lies through brute force because they can't lie fast enough to keep up with your efforts at helping them. It's exhausting, though, which is why it's rarely worth the effort unless they're an older relative. the trick is using their laziness against them: that the long-term expenses will doom them beyond that its just finding a moment of weakness laziness is conservation. if there's no day to call in those debts, its all for naut and futility is the one thing they can't handle. every wally has his day Expo70 fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:in crypto news we can all enjoy: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/crypto/sbfs-lawyer-says-client-was-worst-witness-hes-ever-seen lol that the articles turns into a handjob for sbf's dipshit lawyer after a couple paragraphs
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Zopotantor posted:mechanical computers are where it's at. cool, i'm going to chain a few of these together to process some 4k videos
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Expo70 posted:the trick is using their laziness against them: that the long-term expenses will doom them yeah, like a torpedo under a submarine, just pit the lies against each other - take "this is great content" and then see how much of that great content they can gorge on before they say stop because they weren't being serious
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FAUXTON posted:yeah, like a torpedo under a submarine, just pit the lies against each other - take "this is great content" and then see how much of that great content they can gorge on before they say stop because they weren't being serious Eh, all exposed remains even if unrecalled. If every man is an island, be the ocean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alDq5hAUoHY Expo70 fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Dec 13, 2023 |
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see here now, when I click on the buttcoin thread I expect to read dumb stuff about a goofy computerized rube goldberg contraption that arose from a profound misunderstanding of human beings and the concept of trust (buttcoin), not dumb stuff about a goofy computerized rube goldberg contraption that arose from a profound misunderstanding of human beings and the concept of trust ("Truth Beam")
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Blotto_Otter posted:see here now, when I click on the buttcoin thread I expect to read dumb stuff about a goofy computerized rube goldberg contraption that arose from a profound misunderstanding of human beings and the concept of trust (buttcoin), not dumb stuff about a goofy computerized rube goldberg contraption that arose from a profound misunderstanding of human beings and the concept of trust ("Truth Beam")
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the fundamental concept of currency is based in an assumption of trust this convergence was unavoidable everything can be ruined
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Expo70 posted:everything can be ruined Welcome ... to Something Awful Dot Com.
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