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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Konar posted:

Love that Ad blocking browser extensions are also just businesses now, they make deals to pass ads through and try to beg users for donations when the extension gets updated or something.

Your whole loving product was created to subvert how websites make money online and now you're begging for it, loving losers

Just stick to ublock

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Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Less people driving today. Cars are too expensive. Delivery apps are popular because of that. It helped during covid also, it was cool to see someone drop off a pizza on the deck. I was immobile for 2 months after a surgery so paying for doordash made it worthwhile. They have their uses. These days I do pickup because I have my own car and fully mobile again. But I think I'm becoming the exception, not the norm going forward. A lot of kids cant even afford to move out of their parents place anymore, either. Maybe we're being europeanized.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

ProperCauldron posted:

I don't understand how people use delivery apps.

What's a better system?

You <-----> restaurant

OR

You <----> corporation designed to make owners rich <----> restaurant

Previously not every restaurant did delivery (most didn't), so you had to have current local knowledge about who did delivery and what their range was if you wanted to order something. Also their range may or may not have been public information and it was subject to change arbitrarily.

Kagrenak
Sep 8, 2010

withak posted:

Previously not every restaurant did delivery (most didn't), so you had to have current local knowledge about who did delivery and what their range was if you wanted to order something. Also their range may or may not have been public information and it was subject to change arbitrarily.

There's literally a Seinfeld subplot about this issue even.

CaptainCrunch
Mar 19, 2006
droppin Hamiltons!

withak posted:

Previously not every restaurant did delivery (most didn't), so you had to have current local knowledge about who did delivery and what their range was if you wanted to order something. Also their range may or may not have been public information and it was subject to change arbitrarily.

Gone (for the most part) are the days where one would maintain a kitchen drawer stuffed with the fliers of all of the good restaurants that delivered to your address.
The flyers > App Delivery.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I still have all those flyers Becuase I refuse to use apps

Minorkos
Feb 20, 2010

My non-computer-touching friend often complains and asks me, a computer toucher, why <tech thing> he uses is becoming shittier, like he expects me to give him a reasonable explanation, but I just explain the insanity involved and we both wind up feeling more depressed about it

Minorkos fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Dec 13, 2023

Slotducks
Oct 16, 2008

Nobody puts Phil in a corner.


you can just throw them this link:

https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
Sour Patch Kids suck now.

They've been this way a few years, but they added the new flavor, Blue Raspberry, and it sucks. But the worst part is the texture. They seemed to have gotten a LOT softer. I want the chewiness!

The Sour Patch Kids Watermelons still have the old texture, but then you only get the one flavor.

And I'm pretty sure we've mentioned how Sour Warheads have just progressively gotten worse and worse since we were kids. I remember they initially advertised as, like, a FULL MINUTE of intense sour (probably only like 30 seconds, but still) and I counted one from some leftover halloween candy someone brought into the office...barely five seconds.

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Minorkos posted:

My non-computer-touching friend often complains and asks me, a computer toucher, why <tech thing> he uses is becoming shittier, like he expects me to give him a reasonable explanation, but I just explain the insanity involved and we both wind up feeling more depressed about it

I was informed in a development standup this morning to expect tech to act bad the next few days because Mercury is in retrograde and multiple people nodded their heads and said "oh yeah that is right"/

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill

A Strange Aeon posted:

This is a 'good' example where ai fucks up what should be a simple article about the 10 best Damned songs by also including songs by the Cure, AC/DC, and Nas:

https://singersroom.com/best-the-damned-songs-of-all-time/

There's a guy's name at the bottom of the article but considering how poor quality it is, I'm assuming even the name is ai generated.

It's like "content" is this generic thing now that can't exist for its own sake or have any actual qualities, it can only serve advertising.



quote:

#10 “Don’t Cry Wolf” is a song by British new wave band, The Damned. The song’s lyrics speak of a person who is being warned not to make false accusations or create unnecessary drama by “crying wolf”. The metaphorical warning references the fable of the boy who cried wolf, in which a young boy repeatedly lies about the presence of a wolf, causing people to ignore him when a wolf actually appears. The song’s catchy melody and upbeat tempo stand in contrast to the cautionary message of the lyrics, creating a sense of tension and irony. “Don’t Cry Wolf” serves as a reminder to always be truthful and genuine in our actions, and to be aware of the consequences of crying wolf.

edit: More evil AI writing poo poo:

https://futurism.com/sports-illustrated-ai-generated-writers

Sports Illustrated Published Articles by Fake, AI-Generated Writers
We asked them about it — and they deleted everything.

tldr: it was the ownership company, The Arena Group

SI has a Union and they're very upset
https://x.com/si_union/status/1729245677690012152?s=20

A happy ending!!


Arena Group fires CEO in wake of Sports Illustrated AI articles scandal


https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/dec/12/arena-group-ceo-ross-levinsohn-fired-sports-illustrated-ai-articles

flesh dance
May 6, 2009



I was watching videos of a rapper who died a few years back and now youtube is recommending AI "songs" from him that people are apparently generating

gently caress you gently caress AI who loving wants this

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



On the train, playing a downloaded Spotify playlist. Keep losing service and the (downloaded) songs stop playing. I had to set Spotify to offline mode to keep it playing.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



The Slack Lagoon posted:

On the train, playing a downloaded Spotify playlist. Keep losing service and the (downloaded) songs stop playing. I had to set Spotify to offline mode to keep it playing.

I had this once and it turned out the album had been removed from spotify so even though they were downloaded I couldn't play it, so I went to offline mode and still couldn't play them because even though the data was still on my phone the drm or whatever had been updated to say I couldn't play it.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
the only AI I want is AI generated celeb porn

the xxx files

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Philthy posted:

the only AI I want is AI generated celeb porn

the xxx files

Is this not good enough for you?

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Quote-Unquote posted:

I had this once and it turned out the album had been removed from spotify so even though they were downloaded I couldn't play it, so I went to offline mode and still couldn't play them because even though the data was still on my phone the drm or whatever had been updated to say I couldn't play it.

Hoist the black flag already. What are you waiting for, being treated like that?

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck
Enshittification: Throwback Edition! They got rid of all the punny porn titles and just subtitled everything The Porn Parody.

Are those still a thing? Were they ever a thing?

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

deep dish peat moss posted:

I used to get my groceries delivered and it kind of owned because it would be a $10ish delivery fee and the items weren't marked up. $10 to save whatever time it takes to go to the store and shop was worth it and I didn't have a car so it saved me a ton of headache and hassle.

These days it probably costs way more though

My wife and I tried getting groceries delivered when we had covid and we ended up having to to the grocery store in person, twice, to get all the stuff we had already paid for.

aardwolf
Apr 27, 2013

Philthy posted:

the only AI I want is AI generated celeb porn

the xxx files

SCULLY: My primary finding is that the victim died in a state of shock.

MULDER [casually dropping manila x-file folder on to desk]: Have you ever heard of the Female Orgasm?

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Hitting save as I Microsoft 365 now defaults to a random drive location instead of the original file location. What in the actual gently caress, who thought that was a good idea?

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Rochallor posted:

Enshittification: Throwback Edition! They got rid of all the punny porn titles and just subtitled everything The Porn Parody.

Are those still a thing? Were they ever a thing?

The only porn parodies these days are all based on the comedy smash hit Step Brothers.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Outrail posted:

Hitting save as I Microsoft 365 now defaults to a random drive location instead of the original file location. What in the actual gently caress, who thought that was a good idea?

My workplace has done a bunch of microsoft integration and now it requires constant vigilance and effort to make sure that my computer actually performs the specified operation for things like saving, editing, and emailing files.

One might imagine that this erosion of some of the most fundamental office tasks would be considered a problem, but so far when it has caused fuckups everyone just shrugs as if it's some immutable law of nature.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
Enshittification is kind of a dumb word.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

credburn posted:

Enshittification is kind of a dumb word.

I hate it because it makes it harder for people to ever take it seriously.

Skinnymansbeerbelly
Apr 1, 2010
Automotive design has the best word for the phenomenon: decontenting

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

credburn posted:

Enshittification is kind of a dumb word.

That's the privilege of futurists and sci fi writers. They get to name things. Cory Doctorow got there first unfortunately

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

credburn posted:

Enshittification is kind of a dumb word.

We used to come up with better words, but everything is cheaper these days.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Philthy posted:

Less people driving today. Cars are too expensive. Delivery apps are popular because of that.

This does not compute, delivery apps are insanely expensive for anything more than like, one meal a week tops

Descend to slumber
May 12, 2001



Heath posted:

This does not compute, delivery apps are insanely expensive for anything more than like, one meal a week tops

When a person is working 12 hour days in an unfamiliar town and getting a per-diem then delivery apps become relatively useful. That said, I don't recommend the lifestyle because it will lead to unmanageable burnout and tremendous misery.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Descend to slumber posted:

When a person is working 12 hour days in an unfamiliar town and getting a per-diem then delivery apps become relatively useful. That said, I don't recommend the lifestyle because it will lead to unmanageable burnout and tremendous misery.

:hmmyes: when I used to travel a lot for work I use Uber instead of renting a car and use DoorDash et al. for every meal. The unimaginable burnout/tremendous misery is p. spot on

also wtf happened to Google - I used to be able to punch in a celebrity name and go straight to their wiki page. Now Google's AI keeps trying to read the Wiki to me

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

AARD VARKMAN posted:

I hate it because it makes it harder for people to ever take it seriously.

How about disfunctionalization

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
I was looking at cars the other day, I've always liked Toyota Camries but now apparently a bunch of the functionality is locked behind a stupid app subscription? Are you kidding? Apparently Lexus is the same way, maybe other manufactures too but I didn't check. Things like remote start or using GPS maps you don't just pay a set price now but have to pay a monthly fee. Insanity, and cars are more expensive than ever now!

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Original_Z posted:

I was looking at cars the other day, I've always liked Toyota Camries but now apparently a bunch of the functionality is locked behind a stupid app subscription? Are you kidding? Apparently Lexus is the same way, maybe other manufactures too but I didn't check. Things like remote start or using GPS maps you don't just pay a set price now but have to pay a monthly fee. Insanity, and cars are more expensive than ever now!
Why do you start your car remotely?

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

mawarannahr posted:

Why do you start your car remotely?

Someone here doesn't live in the upper Midwest or Northeastern parts of the US

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Dr.Smasher posted:

Someone here doesn't live in the upper Midwest or Northeastern parts of the US

I live where it's just as cold and remote starting is like the laziest cheapest hackiest solution, bad for the car and environment. I can't believe people live where it's cold like that and haven't developed something better.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Original_Z posted:

I was looking at cars the other day, I've always liked Toyota Camries but now apparently a bunch of the functionality is locked behind a stupid app subscription? Are you kidding? Apparently Lexus is the same way, maybe other manufactures too but I didn't check. Things like remote start or using GPS maps you don't just pay a set price now but have to pay a monthly fee. Insanity, and cars are more expensive than ever now!

As family IT, this will send me to an early grave. Time to check my late grandfathers’s car that my mom is getting because if it has that poo poo I’m going to start seeing if and if an aftermarket solution may be feasible.

My mother does not need an app to listen to NPR and the occasional podcast. No one does. The woman who relied on printed out Mapquest and Rand McNally until the second Obama term does not need to be hassled with an app to listen to The Splendid Table. And I especially do not need to fiddle about with fixing said app when (and not if, let’s be real) it goes tits up.

I am far from a technophobe or Luddite, but I am also disgusted at everything somehow being connected to an app or the internet. I can use Bluetooth with my washer and dryer, for what reason, who loving cares. loving ridiculous.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
App stuff has proven to be pretty ephemeral as it is too. I had a Fitbit in 2015 because work was just giving them out, and by 2021 the hardware was all poo poo and Google bought them and they are being imploded. Less than 7 years and all that poo poo is e-waste now, and usually within 3 years of purchase anyway. There will be weeks when an app just doesn't work. The Taco Bell app was that way for me, just immediate crash, and they didn't fix it for a week. I tried to get my mom a fitness band that was comparable to fitbit, and the biggest brand is Huawei, which is lol is now under embargo in the west and you can't get their app for a product from a year or two ago.

Like nothing about the app store ecosystem is about longevity. Products go in and out all the time, updates just break poo poo, they abandon apps. At least something hardcoded can't have all functionality shaved away when they feel like revenue is lagging.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
I’m hoping the argument about e-waste does turn the tide towards companies pulling this hyper obsolescence via app bullshit. It’s easier to buy less poo poo when the current poo poo isn’t outdated or rendered to barely useable due to apps. Also who needs a loving app for everything, outside of genuine accessibility needs (which is ANOTHER reason why instant obsolescence is hosed).

Like I totally do not expect my current phone to work when iOS 69 or whatever but I would like it to work as long as physically possible, not as long as Apple shitcans basic functionality.

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duncandisorderly
Nov 24, 2023

Pennywise the Frown posted:

She just didn't know how. I stared at her blankly for a while and said to put water in the pot and apply high heat and wait until it boils. But I don't know if she understood what boiling was.

I'm guessing that there was something about this lady which somehow cancelled out this absolutely colossal personality defect...

first test of a potential mate is whether they can accomplish a decent cup of tea.


where I worked in madrid, eleven years ago, we had a fingerprint scanner at the public door of the office. sometimes it actually worked, but it never let anyone in that wasn't supposed to be there. this was the streaming start-up I've mentioned elsewhere.

people who go to the supermarket without taking an empty bag of their own (whoever actually does the bagging) need their loving heads examining.
you can keep several carrier bags in your coat pocket or backpack & never know they are there until you need them.

up to me, empty bags at point-of-sale would be $100 each & indestructible.

I queued to use a manned checkout yesterday & remembered why I'd stopped. lady in front of me, with small daughter
("this is a shop, not loving disneyland!")
is paying in cash. this always makes me suspicious- people who do such a big shop but pay cash are trying to evade/avoid something. usually it's tax. a lot of them are shopping to stock a small shop of their own, & use the supermarket as a sort of cash-&-carry, without the same major discount, but maybe it was an emergency.
nothing against this, as a rule- it is supported by the local circumstances, but when she started counting the pennies out & arguing with the checkout bloke about what she'd already handed over, which was still right there in his hand, I started grumbling.
("I did not come here for a loving day out!")

why did I join this queue instead of self-checkout like I usually do? because of this thread, dammit. I thought I'd try it & see.
I do not believe that the checkout staff are fulfilled by what they do. I think this kind of 'occupation' is why we invented robots.

I like the idea of there being staff dotted about the place to help people with transactions that the robot is loving up for some reason, & definitely to help people get stuff into their bags & gently caress off out of the shop quicker, especially if there are children or other things slowing this process down.
but "eggs on top" common sense is seemingly in short supply, so what is to be done?

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