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mcmagic posted:How did Hackett get there? Did he teleport into the building and just start running meetings and people felt bad to tell him to leave? Maybe not teleport but Aaron Rodgers used his mind-crystal magiks to convince at least several people to bring him
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3 DONG HORSE posted:Maybe not teleport but Aaron Rodgers used his mind-crystal magiks to convince at least several people to bring him Saleh hired Hackett before Rodgers was a Jet. He also hired him as OC, something he never was working with Rodgers before, not Rodgers' personal coffee getter.
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mcmagic posted:Saleh hired Hackett before Rodgers was a Jet. He also hired him as OC, something he never was working with Rodgers before, not Rodgers' personal coffee getter. That's uh, the order of operations one must follow to sign Rodgers, no? The Broncos did the same idiotic thing.
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Simplex posted:I'm actually really curious what quarterbacks were out there and/or available that people think would improve the quarterback situation for the Jets, Steelers and Patriots. Jets could have made a run at a competent backup in the offseason like Minshew or Brissett. They're career backups for a reason but they're not deer in the headlights hopeless like Wilson. As mcmagic keeps saying, the fact that Wilson was the ONLY backup plan is malpractice Pats were always gonna be poo poo so whatever. Signing some JAG to compete in camp with Mac wouldn't have changed anything. Even Mahomes needs some baseline level of competence around him and what New England has is even worse than KC. Steelers probably needed to give Pickett one more chance to prove he wasn't poo poo. Unfortunately, he is in fact poo poo so they gotta figure something out next year. Unlike NE they have some solid weapons, and are finally out from under the dead weight of Matt Canada, so they could probably turn it around pretty quickly.
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Saleh also announced before free agency and before the team had Rodgers that Wilson would be QB2. Which pretty much meant any reasonable backup wouldn't sign with them to be 3rd string QB. Now it probably wasn't Saleh's choice, but he definitely deserves some of the blame for going along with that decision and then the decision to not make a single move at QB, other then Simiean, after Rodgers was hurt. Fire Saleh, fire Hackett, keep as much of the defensive staff as possible and get a promising coach from the offensive side of the ball.
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3 DONG HORSE posted:That's uh, the order of operations one must follow to sign Rodgers, no? The Broncos did the same idiotic thing. I don't believe that 1) They needed to have Hackett in the building to get Rodgers to come to the only team that was trying to trade for him. 2) Even if you believe that I don't believe that Hackett needed to be EXACTLY the OC and not some glorified coffee getter with a title just to make Rodgers more comfortable. If you're the HC and you make a complete incompetent your OC you get to be held responsible for that no matter what kind of excuses there are for why you hired him.
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syzpid posted:Fire Saleh syzpid posted:keep as much of the defensive staff as possible These are probably mutually exclusive.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Pete Carroll needs to Pokémon-go to the Where is this coming from?
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The Jets would have a decent defense with any staff tbh. They have good players on defense. I don't care if they keep that staff or not. I want them to hire a new HC and let him hire who he wants.
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I don't know about that, just look at the Packers of the last like 4-5 years. Always hyped as having all these excellent players up and down their defense, always mid as hell
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Benne posted:WEEK 15 UPDATE Theres a universe where Dallas get bounced in the first round of the playoffs again and Jerry axes McCarthy leading to the bad timeline: Bill Belichick to the Cowboys
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Kalli posted:I don't know about that, just look at the Packers of the last like 4-5 years. The Jets have better players than the packers do on defense tbh. They have also made the playoffs most of those last 5 years.
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Kalli posted:I don't know about that, just look at the Packers of the last like 4-5 years. Maybe their players ain't that good.
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sirtommygunn posted:Where is this coming from? As a reminder, Pete has final say over all personnel decisions. He’s the de facto GM.
Carroll is a better coach than many of the poo poo tier nepotism idiots around the league but he’s also not a great coach. Generally, he beats bad teams, competes with okay teams and loses to good teams. Seattle will never again be a contender with him at the helm. I’m not even saying “ringz or nothing”, I am saying making a team that could plausibly contend for a title. When I evaluate Pete I think of the Bill Belichick quote about how it’s easy to go .500 in the nfl and if you aren’t then something is drastically wrong. I’m not impressed that Pete generally was able to be on the right side of .500 when he had Russell Wilson. There aren’t enough quality franchise qbs for every team to have one, so any team with a quality franchise qb should easily get to .500 in most situations. I also evaluate Pete with the framing of “is the coach doing more with less? Or less with more?” Typically I think it is the latter. Seattle could absolutely do worse than Pete but they could also do better. I want to gamble for a winner rather than stay in the doldrums of mediocrity. Edit: he is funny and charismatic tho Ornery and Hornery fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Dec 14, 2023 |
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And most damning: Pete has a losing record of all his Seahawks games before Russell Wilson and a losing record of all his Seahawks games after Russell Wilson.
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Dobbs is now down to 3rd string/inactive. We can probably end the "JETS COULDA HAD DOBBS" whinging as any decent performance he put out was probably a fluke. Much like Zach Wilson against the Houston Texans. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1735380821899448411?s=20
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Diva Cupcake posted:Dobbs is now down to 3rd string/inactive. We can probably end the "JETS COULDA HAD DOBBS" whinging as any decent performance he put out was probably a fluke. I'm about coaches finding ways to score points and win games. It's a results based business.
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a neat cape posted:Got a good feeling about tonight I'm looking forward to the Chargers inexplicably winning out to make sure Staley gets one more year to prove himself and I'll gladly take the L to get the ball rolling.
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mcmagic posted:I'm about coaches finding ways to score points and win games. As a Jets fan, are you sure you actually are? Just saying.
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Nervous posted:As a Jets fan, are you sure you actually are? Just saying. What should I do? Make excuses and talk around that not happening?
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Black Sunshine posted:I'm looking forward to the Chargers inexplicably winning out to make sure Staley gets one more year to prove himself and I'll gladly take the L to get the ball rolling. Absolutely the worst thing for the team going forward is for them to win now that Herbert's not there Given how the year's gone in the league, I can't even rule it out either
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mcmagic posted:I'm about coaches finding ways to score points and win games. It's a results based business. I’m envisioning a coach suiting up to kick field goals himself since his kicker sucks.
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Erainor posted:I’m envisioning a coach suiting up to kick field goals himself since his kicker sucks. I remembered Staley played qb and tennis in college, but for some reason I thought he had also played soccer and was going to suggest that he’d finally found his niche. But alas, he’d probably suck at that too
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a neat cape posted:Got a good feeling about tonight Congrats.
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a neat cape posted:Got a good feeling about tonight
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Docjowles posted:I was going to write up a longer reply til I saw who I was responding to. Super Bowl appearance followed up by AFCCG, seems pretty good???? What did the Raiders do in that span, and versus the Bengals in the playoffs specifically? I’ll wait. Zac Taylor went 6-25-1 in his first two seasons. How is that immediate success?
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a neat cape posted:this was the good feeling I was talking about btw You deserve happiness.
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a neat cape posted:this was the good feeling I was talking about btw I legit expected Staley to be perp-walked out by security for that first half, but yeah I haven’t felt so good about such a game ever. The suffering is almost over.
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a neat cape posted:this was the good feeling I was talking about btw I was too busy earlier today to challenge that claim and say the Raiders would lay an egg and ruin it for you couldn't have been more wrong
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