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Powered Descent posted:The Family Circus Awesome joke, Bill. And also very clearly not a comic strip recycled from the 1950s as evidenced by the very modern clothing.
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Bil Keane is dead, op Contemporary Family Circus has always been a 50’s/60’s/70’s throwback.
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NJ.com with something about what Patrick McDonnell is up to.quote:“I just did a book signing and a woman came up to me crying talking about Guard Dog,” McDonnell, 67, tells NJ Advance Media. Mutts, in which Guard Dog has a name now. I think we should all know by now where "Sparky" comes from. Santa's Victory Christmas (December 15, 1942) Yes. That unmistakable character totally identified with Christmas...the Picture Book Man. Sally Forth Skippy (which I totally forgot yesterday, so December 6-7, 1935) Peanuts (December 17, 1976) Crankshaft Rip Haywire Because of technical issues, Li'l Abner couldn't come to the thread today. Thimble Theater (July 19, 1940) Out Our Way (July 26-28, 1943)
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Darthemed posted:Retail quote:So, they're in Portland, Maine? Surely flying would be cheaper at that point.
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Kennel posted:Dustin The famously chatty Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come
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It's still surreal how Phantom wasted all of our time. The thread put up with 3 years of Old Man Mozz's prophecy, and the Phantom being a huge dumbass every step of the way, and then the author decides to just.. give up. Phantom and Diana didn't just completely drop the ball at the last second, they actively stopped trying to avert their bad future altogether. Now they're trying to gaslight readers into thinking it's fine to let things happen as-is just because Phantom interpreted Kit's answer of when he decided to come back home as this vital clue that he's off the hook. They've pretty much rolled out the red carpet for fate to come in and kick their asses.
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Bad Machinery
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amigolupus posted:It's still surreal how Phantom wasted all of our time. The thread put up with 3 years of Old Man Mozz's prophecy, and the Phantom being a huge dumbass every step of the way, and then the author decides to just.. give up. Phantom and Diana didn't just completely drop the ball at the last second, they actively stopped trying to avert their bad future altogether. Now they're trying to gaslight readers into thinking it's fine to let things happen as-is just because Phantom interpreted Kit's answer of when he decided to come back home as this vital clue that he's off the hook. It's so weird, you'd think if you're going to do a years-long storyline about a horrible, seemingly unavoidable fate, you'd come up with a dramatic twist to avert it. Phantom goes "oh! Maybe we averted it already? Ah well!"
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The Demons of Baseball
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Willo567 posted:I just wanted to talk about a part of a comic strip i I grew up with, and it's the comic strips thread. I'll drop it I think my issue with Calvin and Susie hooking up is it’s just plain trite and cloying. It’s cheesy. And also to me Calvin and Susie are children and always will be, like the Peanuts kids or most other kids in comic strips. They don’t grow up and I don’t want to see what happens when they do. But, on a larger scale, the old “boys abused girls they liked when they were kids” was a lot more acceptable to me than it is now. When I was a kid, that was a common sentiment, and kids acted accordingly, but in a way it dismissed and even encouraged abuse and the idea of associating that with affection. It’s really a very unhealthy thing to teach kids. I still love C & H but that aspect of his and Susie’s interactions is off putting to me now, because it was obvious Calvin liked her and didn’t know how to handle that, and no one ever stopped to teach him, or teach her that she didn’t have to put up with Calvin’s bullying. Strips are products of their time and it often shows, sometimes obviously with for example casual racism and sexism in older strips, sometimes less obviously with the way characters interact, like with this or the family dynamics in foob. I wouldn’t have batted an eye at that family 20 years ago. Now? Eeeeesh. It’s all way more than you are intended to read into that comic strip but that’s what we do here.
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Murdstone posted:I don’t want to chase you out of the conversation. The flip side is shipping Charlie Brown and Lucy. Good grief.
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Selachian posted:I think fiberglass hulls were still relatively new back then, so mass-produced plastic hulls isn't an unreasonable assumption. But the car/boat hybrid doesn't look likely. Can you imagine how many people would drive their cars into the water trying to dock with the boat hull? The best the 60s could come up with: Best the 80s could come up with: PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Dec 15, 2023 |
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Copper Ma is incredibly crafty, getting pneumonia/hit by a car in order to defeat the Cowboys.
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Murdstone posted:I think my issue with Calvin and Susie hooking up is it’s just plain trite and cloying. It’s cheesy. And also to me Calvin and Susie are children and always will be, like the Peanuts kids or most other kids in comic strips. They don’t grow up and I don’t want to see what happens when they do. Kris Straub hit the nail on the head with his "Adult Calvin" strip
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Mr. Squishy posted:
It's honestly a really weird day. Saint Lucia is a catholic saint but all the nordic countries are protestant and have been so for a very long time. She and St. Olav are also the only saints we celebrate. Part of the day is also to eat buns called lussekatter, lusse cats, but they aren't shaped like cats. They're shaped like the letter S. They also have to be yellow and traditionally that is achieved by using saffron. I actually celebrated the day in the kindergarten I work in on wednesday. The kids had fun and the parents got some nice pics and videos of their kids walking and singing. The buns even tasted good.
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Some Guy TT posted:The Demons of Baseball Literally me October 16, 2004
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Pickles Hagar the Horrible Zits
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instead of jumping copper ma was struck by lightning and filled with BASEBALL POWER
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Murdstone posted:But, on a larger scale, the old “boys abused girls they liked when they were kids” was a lot more acceptable to me than it is now. When I was a kid, that was a common sentiment, and kids acted accordingly, but in a way it dismissed and even encouraged abuse and the idea of associating that with affection. It’s really a very unhealthy thing to teach kids. Certainly some of the C&H comics have ages poorly, but saying that Calvin abuses Suzy is a tremendous leap that strains the definition of "abuse" and needlessly holds the behavior of children to an adult standard. Calvin and Suzy are six years old.
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Schwarzwald posted:Certainly some of the C&H comics have ages poorly, but saying that Calvin abuses Suzy is a tremendous leap that strains the definition of "abuse" and needlessly holds the behavior of children to an adult standard. They both really liked each other and he was way too mean to her too often and it didn’t have to be that way and shouldn’t have, but it was more or less expected behavior at the time. That’s what I’m arguing.
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Murdstone posted:That’s fair. It’s a strong word. Maybe bullying, but that doesn’t quite feel right either.
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I mean, yes, but that's not a mistake on the comics part to be corrected; that's a major part of the premise. There is a lot to criticize about Calvin's behavior. It's frequently very bad, and it's absolutely not fair to Suzy for her to be targeted. Calvin's parents should have done a lot more to guide Calvin. But his upbringing could be improved in a lot of different ways, and I think the comic is very upfront about that. Mom and Dad may be caring and supportive, but they're not always attentive and they don't seem to understand how understimulated their child is or recognize the trouble he has with school. Calvin is frequently left to fend for himself with very little guidance. I think this is something people are likely to overlook if they've first read it as a kid, but Calvin's relationships with other people being troubled is a purposeful element of the comic. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Dec 16, 2023 |
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John Allison posted:Time travel is a really stupid thing to write about. After all, history is a mystery. That's why those two words rhyme - it's no coincidence. Scary Go Round (September 20-22, 2004)
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JethroMcB posted:Kris Straub hit the nail on the head with his "Adult Calvin" strip Yeah, what I think people usually find off-putting about "Calvin grows up and marries susie and they have a kid named Bacon" bullsit comics isn't about the dynamics of kids bullying or abuse or whatever is going on in the above posts, it's that, at best, this is saccharine and maudlin, and at worst, it's loving boring. "What if cartoon kid become cartoon adult" is not an interesting premise in and of itself. There's no story-based need to see how Calvin turned out, and even as a creative writing exercise "I think Calvin would marry literally the only girl in the cast and they would have a precocious kid and start over again" is also loving boring and lazy. It's a premise that doesn't work, because Calvin and Hobbes is essentially about childhood. Part of this is a response to an increase in media that overly spoon-feeds every part of the character too the audience, and an annoyance with people who won't let just let stories end. But I think it's particularly egregious with C&H because the ending was already left intentionally open-ended, and it is to most fans, absolutely perfect. You're adding closure onto something that doesn't need it, and that closure is basic and inane. These fanfic codas or epilogues are not better than "Let's go exploring." And just to be clear, if you're reading these threads from over a decade ago, you probably saw a post combining all these fanfic comics into one narrative. That post was made by me, and it is some dumb cringy bullshit. Breaking Cat News Phoebe and Her Unicorn Wallace the Brave Heart of the City Curtis gently caress you, Barry, you're supposed to have like a 12-grade intellect, and gently caress you Barry's mom for enabling this little baby poo poo.
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Jucika "440 - Jucika And The Ventilator" Jucika's power moves are the best. "441 - Jucika Picks" Murdstone posted:I don’t want to chase you out of the conversation. Seconding all this. I think Calvin and Susie is... eh, it's fine, but that's all it is. It's a very safe option that works best if you have a very strong feeling about the sentiment of a lifelong soulmate that can be traced back to childhood interaction. Otherwise it precludes a life in which Calvin can do any number of things, including finding people who resonate with his (80s-90s childhood) weirdness and subtle isolation as he grows as a person. I liked all the chat in the thread of how Calvin doesn't make friends with other kids, it flew over my head reading C&H for the first time. I get the feeling that mirrors a lot of us here, myself included, so seeing Calvin slide down the storytelling assembly line to mirror his parents with the first girl he ever met is a bit dull. Does Calvin have a happy life if he's grounded by his sensible wife who was also his childhood friend/rival? Sure. Is it annoyingly twee if he gives birth to an identically precocious bratty boy who he can pass Hobbes onto? Very. In conclusion Calvin needs to go to high school or college and meet a bunch of other nerds and an alt/goth girl/partner, thanks for coming to my C&H Ted Talk. Doomykins fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 15, 2023 |
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I think Hobbes should marry Cathy
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We Are Reproducing This is the last essay in the book, and it seems she stopped including them in later collected volumes as well. So that’s about as straight an explanation we get of her whole relationship situation for a bit.
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RE: Calvin & Susie, I agree that the whole pairing is cliché, though it comes from the economy of characters in the Calvin & Hobbes strip were there's maybe 10 recurring characters. As for Calvin's treatment of Susie, I find it tempered by the fact that usually Susie gets the upper hand or Calvin gets some sort of comeuppance.Strontium posted:Intelligent Life My eyes usually roll past Intelligent Life, but this strip was featured on The Comic's Curmudgeon (the first time for that particular comic), who pointed out the problem. Will Reddick address it? Probably not.
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Kazinsal posted:Scary Go Round (September 16-17, 2004) I do like how important characters get introduced to the Tacklefordverse seemingly randomly. Or maybe seemingly random characters end up being important later down the line. And in this case, random character's seemingly unimportant younger sister ends up being one of the key characters.
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Pogo 12/24-26/51 Archie 12/31/48 - 1/1/49 Only two Archies today to get lined up with the calendar again properly. Tom Corbett, Space Cadet 12/10-12/51
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Kennel posted:Or maybe seemingly random characters end up being important later down the line. It's absolutely this one.
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Doomykins posted:I think Calvin and Susie is... eh, it's fine, but that's all it is. It's a very safe option that works best if you have a very strong feeling about the sentiment of a lifelong soulmate that can be traced back to childhood interaction. Which is itself a little odd. It's actually very rare in the real world for people who grew up together to hook up as adults. People might marry their high school sweetheart, but almost never their elementary school crush. It's been suggested that this is caused by the same brain wiring that keeps you from being attracted to your own siblings.
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Calvin and Susie were already married and divorced in the same strip, on multiple occasions checkmate child shippers
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Powered Descent posted:Which is itself a little odd. It's actually very rare in the real world for people who grew up together to hook up as adults. People might marry their high school sweetheart, but almost never their elementary school crush. It's been suggested that this is caused by the same brain wiring that keeps you from being attracted to your own siblings. wasn't there something about that with old European arranged marriages where they'd put the kids together at like age 5 or 7 so they could grow up together, and there was usually a very low birth rate between those couples? And yes, we have seen Calvin and Susie marry and divorce many times in strip. He left to become Tarzan after she had a rabbit baby. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck it sounds like I combined two Holbrook strips there.
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Cowslips Warren posted:wasn't there something about that with old European arranged marriages where they'd put the kids together at like age 5 or 7 so they could grow up together, and there was usually a very low birth rate between those couples? Yeah the Westermark Effect, which basically states that people tend to not be attracted to people they lived with as children. It's been cited as one of the causes for the decline of the French House of Valois, although from what little I've read most scientists think it' wrong.
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Professor Wayne posted:I think Hobbes should marry Cathy Ack!
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It won't work out, Cathy is already having Ray Smuckles's baby
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riderchop posted:Zippy The Pinhead I appreciate this thread for enabling me to get all of th' references in this Zippy.
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riderchop posted:Zippy The Pinhead Al is lit
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Safety Dance posted:Thank god They're probably in RI because Feuti but they are probably taking into account getting TO I95 and maybe breaks for gas and meals and toilet
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