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ContinuityNewTimes posted:Hoo boy I bet he'll be super embarrassed by this hypocrisy! hypocrisy ... their secret weak point, you catch them on that and they explode into pixie dust, never to do harm again works like a charm, u catch them and go "you claim to be about america liberty freedom, but you want to put all minority in forever jail. four pinnochios." and their reign of terror is over
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Halloween Jack posted:Why is Satan's head a disco crab? It's in the bible I think.
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The Lone Badger posted:So literally "you cannot even imagine how bad the poo poo I did was"? Yes, that's what they tried. The problem is that they never bargained for a defendant that would refuse to submit to discovery and an accounting audit to establish ability to pay. If Rudy had done that, damages would likely have been limited to a maximum of 10% of his net worth. Now he's gonna try to knock it down to that range on appeal, and get skull-hosed because he already waived that angle when he pled and waived discovery. At every level, Rudy and his representation completely hosed up this case. His last resort, after what he did, was bargaining an out of court settlement to drop the suit. They anted up, waived any right to look at their cards, and then pushed all their chips in. It's really stunning, but I'd by lying if I said an appeals court doesn't bail him out somehow. Appeals courts don't like these kinds of payouts to plaintiffs. They'll find something. That said, the plaintiffs are still likely to get millions. I just doubt they get anywhere near 148 million. They'll likely get enough money to never have to work again. They'll be lucky if either of them get millions in the double digits. Rudy is going to appeal and immediately declare bankruptcy.. or maybe he doesn't. He's a loving loon, and he should be under conservatorship. Rudy is hosed either way. He didn't have enough money to pay counsel prior to this. It's likely he has stuff that can be liquidated, but that's basically the end of it. He'll end up with a little bit set aside to pay for the nursing home for the next 10 years, and that's about it. His lawyers and his creditors are gonna eat him first, leave some for these plaintiffs, and then that will be that. ErIog fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Dec 18, 2023 |
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Do court-ordered judgements get priority over other creditors in the same way unpaid tax does?
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The Lone Badger posted:Do court-ordered judgements get priority over other creditors in the same way unpaid tax does? I believe someone in another thread mentioned that it'd likely be order of first incurring the debt.
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ErIog posted:That said, the plaintiffs are still likely to get millions. I just doubt they get anywhere near 148 million. They'll likely get enough money to never have to work again. They'll be lucky if either of them get millions in the double digits. Rudy is going to appeal and immediately declare bankruptcy.. or maybe he doesn't. He's a loving loon, and he should be under conservatorship. As an aside, they have settled out of court with, I think, 2 other entities for undisclosed amounts so even though Rudy is going to continue to gently caress around and try not to pay out a dime they aren't relying on him.
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Murgos posted:As an aside, they have settled out of court with, I think, 2 other entities for undisclosed amounts so even though Rudy is going to continue to gently caress around and try not to pay out a dime they aren't relying on him. I did not know that part. That makes Rudy's decision to take this to a trial where he immediately pleads to avoid discovery even stupider then. They showed they were willing to entertain other avenues to address the harm, and Rudy runs his defense case like he's working for the plaintiffs to get max payout.
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ErIog posted:I did not know that part. That makes Rudy's decision to take this to a trial where he immediately pleads to avoid discovery even stupider then. They showed they were willing to entertain other avenues to address the harm, and Rudy runs his defense case like he's working for the plaintiffs to get max payout. "I work both sides! That way, I can never lose!" It would be awful if Rudy was put in such a precarious financial position that he'd have to flip on Trump. (Assuming there is any room for anyone to still flip on Trump.)
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The Question IRL posted:"I work both sides! That way, I can never lose!" No, he's pretty much screwed as there is only limited amounts of venues he can earn money on. He's too extreme now for Fox News, so OAN is it and they don't exactly pay too much. He'll never flip on Trump at this point because he's got nothing left but desperate hopes Trump dumps more money and fundraisers on him.
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Cimber posted:No, he's pretty much screwed as there is only limited amounts of venues he can earn money on. He's too extreme now for Fox News, so OAN is it and they don't exactly pay too much. He'll never flip on Trump at this point because he's got nothing left but desperate hopes Trump dumps more money and fundraisers on him. What if he gets locked up for a week and the prosecutors offer him some booze to help with the dts if he flips on trump? I feel like this must happen all the time.
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Cimber posted:No, he's pretty much screwed as there is only limited amounts of venues he can earn money on. He's too extreme now for Fox News, so OAN is it and they don't exactly pay too much. Speaking of which, he was on Newsmax last night and surprise! He defamed them all over again.
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If I just keep committing various torts and crimes, they'll never be able to prosecute me because they won't be able to catch up.
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Halloween Jack posted:If I just keep committing various torts and crimes, they'll never be able to prosecute me because they won't be able to catch up. Up until he gets slapped with a gag order, then he goes on Newsmax to complain his first amendment rights are being violated, and all around the country Uncle Chester nods sagely in agreement.
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I tried to give AM radio a listen. I got very angry at the host and guest talking about how we're in the worst time for America and we must fight back. I turned it off. I think it's better that I don't listen to these monsters peddling hatred and rage. They're a Lot of names I'm unfamiliar with, but when Gorka has a two hour block of time to peddle rightwing cellphone services and MyPillow Christmas shopping.... I have to ask, how is this business model viable! Do AM stations really have low overhead, so much so that they can pay Gorka syndication fees?
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I find people really underestimate how big the radio audience still is.
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Cimber posted:Up until he gets slapped with a gag order, then he goes on Newsmax to complain his first amendment rights are being violated, and all around the country Uncle Chester nods sagely in agreement. You'll be safe as long as you have your Radical Left Insurance. 
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Halloween Jack posted:If I just keep committing various torts and crimes, they'll never be able to prosecute me because they won't be able to catch up. Ah, the SBF gambit. Hope that they store crimes as a 32-bit integer -- if I keep criming, it'll overflow to 0 and they'll have to let me go free!
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I'm wondering what legitimate insurance company would actually insure the kind of people who would both a) actually buy this and b) actually need it. It sounds like inviting a bunch of insane people to bankrupt you.
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Panfilo posted:I like to give people like this hypotheticals like "Would you support universal healthcare and lower taxes?" Truly a modern ultima gypsy.
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Halloween Jack posted:If I just keep committing various torts and crimes, they'll never be able to prosecute me because they won't be able to catch up. For every page of indictments they write each day, just commit double that amount of crime while they’re writing them.
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OgNar posted:You'll be safe as long as you have your Radical Left Insurance. Not sure if thats a real thing or not. Worse is the fact that I am entertaining the possibility that it _might_ be a real thing.
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Rudy is creating his own reality, and while you're studying that reality, he'll just create other new realities for you to study. He is history's actor, and everyone ITT will only study what he does.
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OgNar posted:You'll be safe as long as you have your Radical Left Insurance.
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OgNar posted:You'll be safe as long as you have your Radical Left Insurance. It's an extremely questionable pseudoretainer legal referral service, as far as I can tell; the kind of situation where they'll argue any possible scenario doesn't actually fall under the plan, and the services provided are likely to be trash. It's clearly built off of a similar model focused entirely on gun charges that was (and afaik still is) a major profit center for the NRA.  
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OgNar posted:You'll be safe as long as you have your Radical Left Insurance. Ten bucks a month to say the n word? What a steal
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HootTheOwl posted:Ten bucks a month to say the n word? What a steal Twitter Blue already exists
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Hey! It's X Premium now! 
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Panfilo posted:Twitter Blue already exists 
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HootTheOwl posted:Ten bucks a month to say the n word? What a steal
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A Bad King posted:I tried to give AM radio a listen. I got very angry at the host and guest talking about how we're in the worst time for America and we must fight back. The way the Limbaugh show worked was that, as a station, you got the show for free, but the catch is they get to sell the great majority of advertising time. This deal also lets them tell advertisers "hey look, we're carried on 2,000 stations" or whatever to squeeze higher ad rates out of the advertiser. For your local podunk millionaire who owns 870 WKKK or whatever, it's basically just another passive income stream.
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I was listening to a video about the recent Moms for Liberty controversies and one thing that really stuck out to me about conservative political organizations, particularly women centric ones, is the fact that in a conservative organization an individual has a much more clearly defined role in the social hierarchy. So for instance, being a mother has strict bioessentialist parameters attached to it. Doesn't matter if you're a good mom or a bad mom, a smart mom or a stupid mom, you're still a MOM. That is going to be very attractive to a certain demographic that might not have much going for themselves. For a value system that supposedly throws a lot of weight towards "merit" they actually recruit much more on the notion of passive  that the individual has very little control over.So for a conservative woman who feels scared, stupid, and uncertain of herself, these organizations give her a sense of place and purpose. Who cares if you weren't motivated enough to go to college, it's just an indoctrination center anyway! So what if you don't have much of a career, that's not what women are built built for, play on your strengths! Contrast this with more egalitarian leftist organizations which emphasize that motherhood isn't defined by your gender assigned at birth or even gives it any undue significance beyond other members of the community. The same kind of person might not feel as unique or "special" if they feel nothing inherent to them really stands out it is important.
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These organizations are definitely for MOMS whose children don't go to school in this district, and are no longer school age, and are no longer speaking to them.
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Burning_Monk posted:https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1737267694028648838 "For transparency, here's me when I had a spine before Der Furhrer asked me to remove it"
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Although personal insecurity about one's own achievements may certainly play a factor, I think the larger aspect of the current moral panic (of which Moms for Liberty is an offshoot) is an attempt to wrest back a perceived loss of control on the part of parents. Like, back in the 80's and 90's, the Satanic Panic had a whole bunch of people saying goofy bullshit, sure. But it had the undeniable subtext of parents, scared about their perceived diminishing importance and authority over their children, forcibly taking it back on both a personal and societal level. They were terrified that they were losing control, so they either consciously or subconsciously played along with the idea of the Generational Satanist boogeyman in order to justify their actions. Like, the standard advice that "experts" gave was to go through all of your childrens' belongings and throw out/destroy anything that smacked of Satanism. Once you take away that fabricated justification, that's a great reminder to your child that you're the one in charge, and that they aren't allowed to have any aspect of themself that's private. The same pattern is happening with Moms for Liberty and other conservative movements. They're generally aware that society is generally less bigoted-by-default than when they grew up, and most kids nowadays have lives on the internet that they keep mostly private from their parents. So, they willingly believe in groomers and the "trans industrial complex" boogeyman in order to justify taking more control over their children, whether monitoring their online presence or what media they consume. It's okay that they do that, you see, because otherwise the kids might get brainwashed into being trans! Pulling them out of school, forbidding them from reading Heartstoppers and banning them from talking to certain friends is a reasonable protection!
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The reason parents in the 80s felt that sense of diminishing importance was because the bottom was dropping out of white working-class prosperity and women had to enter the work force en masse, leaving their children to be raised by the television. So they were paranoid about what was on television. I'm not entirely sure about the underlying economic reasons at work here.
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