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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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The invisible youthful big beautiful unicorn one is bold for implicitly sidelining the canonical green great dragon

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Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe

Data Graham posted:

The invisible youthful big beautiful unicorn one is bold for implicitly sidelining the canonical green great dragon

wait if great green dragon feels more right does that mean I have brain cancer or something

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Benagain posted:

wait if great green dragon feels more right does that mean I have brain cancer or something

No, "great green dragon" is the correct ordering, "green great dragon" is the example used to demonstrate the adjectives have an implicit ordering in english (because that one feels wrong).

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

I enjoyed the language memes far, far more than the angry politicial ones, and I hope this rechristening heralds the dawn of a glorious new era of linguistics memes.

Meskhenet
Apr 26, 2010

ToxicFrog posted:

No, "great green dragon" is the correct ordering, "green great dragon" is the example used to demonstrate the adjectives have an implicit ordering in english (because that one feels wrong).

See i read that as


there are multiple green dragons, im talking about the great one.

then

there are multiple great dragons, and now im talking about the green one.

2 different subsets of dragons

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Lemme skip ahead a lil

Mark Forsyth posted:

Hyperbaton is when you put words in an odd order, which is very, very difficult to do in English. Given that almost everything else in the English language is slapdash, happy-go-lucky, care-may-the-Devil, word order is surprisingly strict. John Ronald Reuel Tolkien wrote his first story aged seven. It was about a "green great dragon." He showed it to his mother who told him that you absolutely couldn't have a green great dragon, and that it had to be a great green one instead. Tolkien was so disheartened that he never wrote another story for years.

The reason for Tolkien's mistake, since you ask, is that adjectives in English absolutely have to be in this order: opinion-size-age-shape-colour-origin-material-purpose Noun. So you can have a lovely little old rectangular green French silver whittling knife. But if you mess with that word order in the slightest you'll sound like a maniac. It's an odd thing that every English speaker uses that list, but almost none of us could write it out. And as size comes before colour, green great dragons can't exist.

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=27890

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo

Meskhenet posted:

See i read that as


there are multiple green dragons, im talking about the great one.

then

there are multiple great dragons, and now im talking about the green one.

2 different subsets of dragons

If you're talking about Great Dragons, sure but that's different

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Meanwhile, hyperbation is what happens when you watch 4D VR porn

ButterNBacon
Feb 17, 2004

Flashback Friday: Two years ago exactly, Nancy Reagan bj memes were all the rage.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005


That’s a lot of memes. Surely that’s all of them. I bet there aren’t any more, are there?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

You forgot to skip far enough ahead to where they rule is shown to be bullshit for everyone except grammar pedants.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

root beer posted:

That’s a lot of memes. Surely that’s all of them.










































CainFortea posted:

Remember who?

Haven't seen bike tory post in a while. The man up and vanished like a voiceless anal fricative in the wind!

Indecisive
May 6, 2007


mystes
May 31, 2006

nobody wants to work not work anymore

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

There are two ways to pronounce “the” so it’s at least a little more complicated

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

please dont post memes to make me angry

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

You forgot to skip far enough ahead to where they rule is shown to be bullshit for everyone except grammar pedants.

oh this is one of those rules that pedants absolutely don't know: a natural usage rule

but also they suck at the rest of the rules

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Bloody Hedgehog posted:

You forgot to skip far enough ahead to where they rule is shown to be bullshit for everyone except grammar pedants.

It's not a rule in the sense that if you order the adjectives differently it's ungrammatical, it's a rule in the sense that if you order them differently native speakers will go "huh, something feels off about that sentence but I can't put my finger on what".

space uncle
Sep 17, 2006

"I don’t care if Biden beats Trump. I’m not offloading responsibility. If enough people feel similar to me, such as the large population of Muslim people in Dearborn, Michigan. Then he won’t"


Bloody Hedgehog posted:

You forgot to skip far enough ahead to where they rule is shown to be bullshit for everyone except grammar pedants.

Look at this short bad silly wrong post.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Jokes on them, I’m too neurotically scared of anything new/making a mistake to ever voluntarily leave any job, no matter how much I hate it. Hiring me is like picking up a cursed object in a horror movie; losing me will come at great cost.

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

mysterious frankie posted:

Jokes on them, I’m too neurotically scared of anything new/making a mistake to ever voluntarily leave any job, no matter how much I hate it. Hiring me is like picking up a cursed object in a horror movie; losing me will come at great cost.

(nods managerishly) sounds like you're a real team player! You're hired!!

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

Tree Bucket posted:

(nods managerishly) sounds like you're a real team player! You're hired!!

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Tree Bucket posted:

(nods managerishly) sounds like you're a real team player! You're hired!!


MANAGER: frankly your performance isn’t great and it shows in your review.
ME: that’s fair. I’m a c+ performer, at best.
MANAGER: and you’re ok with this?
ME: I was not aware you could be ok with things.

E-flat
Jun 22, 2007

3-flat
The IPA meme bothers me because it’s not all that accurate. The word “which” is roughly [wɪt͡ʃ] and not [wɪtʃ]. It’s not properly an affricate without the tie bar, fight me :colbert:

Here are some memes from my field. They’re all from instagram sorry



















BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

euphronius posted:

There are two ways to pronounce “the” so it’s at least a little more complicated

Yeah, but that's based on the following sound, same rule as a/an: vowel sounds and history get the /i/, consonants get /ə/.

Spyderizer
Feb 18, 2004

Takes No Damage posted:

Haven't seen bike tory post in a while. The man up and vanished like a voiceless anal fricative in the wind!

Our government just announced they've cut funding for cycleways, he's probably just out with his petrol can and matches.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

mind the walrus posted:

Got linguist friends and they are lolling like pigs in poo poo rn. Thanks.

This implies queefs are voiceless bilabial fricatives.

Can we get a linguist to confirm this?

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Actually, I would argue that a fart is in fact an anal stop, possibly affricated and probably coarticulated with the buttocks.

VROOM VROOM
Jun 8, 2005
Anyone who thinks a fart is voiceless hasn't heard mine

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

mysterious frankie posted:

Jokes on them, I’m too neurotically scared of anything new/making a mistake to ever voluntarily leave any job, no matter how much I hate it. Hiring me is like picking up a cursed object in a horror movie; losing me will come at great cost.

.............gently caress, it's me :(

Laserjet 4P posted:

This implies queefs are voiceless bilabial fricatives.

Can we get a cunning linguist to confirm this?

Bro... it was right there.

VROOM VROOM posted:

Anyone who thinks a fart is voiceless hasn't heard mine

They all thought anal fricatives were voiceless but im dummy thicc and the

Spyderizer posted:

Our government just announced they've cut funding for cycleways, he's probably just out with his petrol can and matches.

It's a bit extreme to go all Buddhist monk over something like that :kingsley:

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
My rear end has glossolalia

crab hat CRAB HAT!
Feb 19, 2008
Doctor Rope

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

Linguistics nostalgia: a thesis student once got mad at me because I pointed out he was assigning the wrong IPA characters to my dialect (which he didn't speak and interviewed me for as a test subject).

VROOM VROOM posted:

Anyone who thinks a fart is voiceless hasn't heard mine

A fart is a vowel though since the air flows out unobstructed? Also if you can whisper a fart, it's voiceless.

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!
Voiceless but deadly

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:

Voiceless but deadly

Voiceless deadly butt

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Pope Hilarius II posted:


A fart is a vowel though since the air flows out unobstructed? Also if you can whisper a fart, it's voiceless.

It really should be analyzed [sic] as three segments I guess, a stop in each end and either a voiceless vowel thing or a fricative depending on the amount of sound.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012




Buttchocks
Oct 21, 2020

No, I like my hat, thanks.

Milo and POTUS posted:

My rear end has glossolalia

speaking in dungs

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Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Milo and POTUS posted:

My rear end has glossolalia

I will not be borrowing your lipsmackers even if it’s the dr pepper flavor

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