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SolarFire2 posted:They are really doubling down on the Sequel Era, I'm curious to see how it goes for them. Obviously there's a lot of hate for the sequels on 'The Internet' but I wonder if that will translate to consumer indifference. I guess we'll see when the Rey movie comes out. I do wonder if there will be an interest resurgence in 10+ years as all the children who grew up with the sequels come of age. As someone who was a teenager through the prequel trilogy, who spent the better part of the last 20 years in this forum discussing with you guys just how bad they were compared to the originals, it's been really fascinating to watch the younger Millennials/ Gen Z re-contextualise the series into memes and references, obviously generated from their own fond memories / nostalgia. You sense a real cultural love for those movies that simply did not exist in the same way when they were new.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The obvious problem of the Star Wars Sequel Hotel is that it’s ‘fun’, when everyday life for the characters of Star Wars is largely mundane and even tedious. The movies just elide that stuff with, y’know, editing (or just not writing those scenes in in the first place). Yeah, the prudent thing to do would've been to just build a Star Wars themed hotel, but they were trying to create a LARP thing, and I think you can make the same argument about any RP experience. The everyday life of a Sword Coaster does not involve getting tadpoles in their brains, fighting goblin hordes, and loving bears. The everyday life of a Citadel resident only involves Shepard insofar as they hear her voice on ads for shops in the promenade.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The obvious problem of the Star Wars Sequel Hotel is that it’s ‘fun’, when everyday life for the characters of Star Wars is largely mundane and even tedious. The movies just elide that stuff with, y’know, editing (or just not writing those scenes in in the first place). Pretty much this, I'd even go so far as to say the legitimate form of a star wars hotel is a dirty abandoned motel in the middle of nowhere.
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Dec 15, 2023 00:36
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Gargamel Gibson posted:When you gently caress one of the Ugnaughts at the Star Wars hotel do they scream in ecstasy in Ugnaught or in English? Neither. They speak Huttese.
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Dec 15, 2023 01:57
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FunkyAl posted:Pretty much this, I'd even go so far as to say the legitimate form of a star wars hotel is a dirty abandoned motel in the middle of nowhere. playing video poker in a vegas tiki bar is the most retrofuture activity possible
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Dec 15, 2023 02:15
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What a Star Wars hotel needs: -A cantina where I can get drunk. An animatronic alien band (not this DJ droid business). You need to figure out how to have aliens hanging out there too. Maybe rotate some mannequins around. I know there’s one inside the park, but it really should have been hotel thing. -Doors that go “puh-SHHHH”. They probably aren’t allowed to make automatic doors close all that fast, but if it sounds the same then it’s all good. -an industrial area that’s got droids doing poo poo in it. Red lights, some steam shooting up. Give it a feeling like I’m not supposed to be there. Stick an ice machine in there maybe. I’m really not sure why it had to be a spaceship at all. Seems more like a trek thing. Tell ‘em it’s the abandoned castle of Bobo the Hutt or something.
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Dec 15, 2023 02:31
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A spaceship means you don't have to worry about exteriors as much. Plus spaceships they are very Star Wars.
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Dec 15, 2023 02:36
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star wars hotel is one thing but i want a dune hotel (hulking stone structure with rising damp and zero furnishing)
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Dec 15, 2023 02:37
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Bogus Adventure posted:Neither. They speak Huttese. I'm out.
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Dec 15, 2023 02:37
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I want to eat at one of those little tables in Jabbas throne room where I can see music, dancing and someone falling to their death through the floor.
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Dec 15, 2023 03:20
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I wanna eat at Dexter Jettster's greasy spoon diner
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Bogus Adventure posted:I wanna eat at Dexter Jettster's greasy spoon diner You wanna cuppa Jawa juice?
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Dec 15, 2023 03:28
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Kart Barfunkel posted:You wanna cuppa Jawa juice? Only if it's served by a sassy droid waitress on wheels
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Dec 15, 2023 03:32
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banned from Starbucks posted:I want to eat at one of those little tables in Jabbas throne room where I can see music, dancing and someone falling to their death through the floor. I once captured a huntsman spider and fed it to my pet lizard, I never felt more like Jabba the Hutt.
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Luxury space hotel is just an aesthetic that you’d probably expect to belong in the Star Wars universe but not something we’ve ever seen, because we mostly see imperial / military installations, rebel hideouts and dodgy spaceports. Closest probably is the Casino planet in TLJ and that always looked very different from anything we’d seen before.
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Dec 15, 2023 05:00
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Well, Bespin is pretty swanky. Just make a Cloud City Motel.
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Dec 15, 2023 06:34
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Jerkface posted:Empire has to palling around with the first order commander guy (the actor who did this at our show was great and he was having a blast with all the kids). That's definitely one of the take aways I had from especially the Rise of the Resistance ride at Galaxy's Edge: Disney has a lot of staff that play alarmingly good fascists that are both child-friendly and unhesitatingly accommodating in whatever you need.
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Dec 16, 2023 07:07
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Jehde posted:That's definitely one of the take aways I had from especially the Rise of the Resistance ride at Galaxy's Edge: Disney has a lot of staff that play alarmingly good fascists that are both child-friendly and unhesitatingly accommodating in whatever you need. I mean, somehow that's incredibly unsurprising.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Gz_E5HOSs
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Kart Barfunkel posted:What a Star Wars hotel needs: And literally zero Jedi, they were apparently so rare that 20 years after the fall the galaxy at large doesn’t believe in them and even after the empire falls (at the hands of a Jedi) they are apparently an urban legend.
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Dec 16, 2023 14:11
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Sorry, its the The First Law of Star Wars Galaxies (both the game and general concept) As any star wars property last longer, the fraction of force sensitives characters in the property approaches one.
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Dec 16, 2023 16:30
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I just dont understand how the galaxy at large doesn’t just immediately attack and destroy any force user population. They are never ever anything but trouble, even after 10 000 generations of peace keeping it took just one to result in untold billions of deaths.
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Dec 16, 2023 16:33
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Extra row of tits posted:I just dont understand how the galaxy at large doesn’t just immediately attack and destroy any force user population. "You don't really want to attack us." *waves hand* "We don't really want to attack you."
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Dec 16, 2023 16:36
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BiggestBatman posted:Sorry, its the The First Law of Star Wars Galaxies (both the game and general concept) Extra row of tits posted:I just dont understand how the galaxy at large doesn’t just immediately attack and destroy any force user population. Star Wars RPG where everyone has to roll a 1d100 ten times at the end of every session, and if they get the same number twice in a row, they turn Force Sensitive, causing every faction to turn hostile if they know you're traveling with a force-sensitive
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Grendels Dad posted:"You don't really want to attack us." *waves hand* Turbo lasers site from orbit.
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Dec 16, 2023 18:35
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Extra row of tits posted:Turbo lasers site from orbit. Vader kills a dude across a long distance phone call because he was mildly annoyed. You want to man the laser, be my guest.
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Dec 16, 2023 19:10
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I bet using TFU rules a Jedi could reflect the bolt back with their lightsaber...
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BiggestBatman posted:Sorry, its the The First Law of Star Wars Galaxies (both the game and general concept) That’s an extension of the same Hotel problem: something interesting has to be happening at all times. So, Obiwan can’t just be hanging out on the desert as a weirdo hermit, studying footprints and practicing his bird calls while not owning any method of transportation; he’s gotta head out on a rollicking interplanetary adventure while also overcoming the PTSD that he didn’t have previously. Even within the films themselves, Rey apparently gets embroiled in deadly combat on a daily basis - before she’s even called to adventure. None of the OT characters lead very eventful lives before - or even during - the adventure. Leia basically just transports stuff from place to place, and says “diplomatic immunity” if the cops pull her over. She kills a few fascists during the prison break, and that’s enough action to last her many years.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:That’s an extension of the same Hotel problem: something interesting has to be happening at all times. So, Obiwan can’t just be hanging out on the desert as a weirdo hermit, studying footprints and practicing his bird calls while not owning any method of transportation; he’s gotta head out on a rollicking interplanetary adventure while also overcoming the PTSD that he didn’t have previously. This really reaches its head in Ep IX when instead of quietly sneaking their way through that Imperial ship (to....free Chewbacca or something? I forget) by disguising themselves or something their plan is to sprint forward effortlessly shooting everyone they see like the Doomslayer
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Extra row of tits posted:I just dont understand how the galaxy at large doesn’t just immediately attack and destroy any force user population. Because all it takes is one Sith ghost you forget to exorcise and you've got a Sith Empire on your hands and you need Jedi to beat them down.
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Trying to exterminate super-powered individuals is how you get enslaved by robots, you fools who haven't read X-men comics.
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Wolfsheim posted:instead of quietly sneaking their way through that Imperial ship (to....free Chewbacca or something? I forget) by disguising themselves or something They couldn't disguise themselves because Abrams and Terrio had already decided they wanted Rey & Kylo to have a Force Skype duel during that part of the movie, and all the concept art for the fight had her in her default outfit rather than a Stormtrooper disguise. Terrio admitted that a lot of stuff in the movie is just from he and Abrams coming up with a list of cool images to see in a Star War and then contriving reasons for those things to happen - and it was probably just easier to not have them change clothes at all than to ruin the image by making Daisy Ridley fight in clunky Stormtrooper armor or trying to write some excuse to have her change out of the armor partway through the mission.
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Shanty posted:Vader kills a dude across a long distance phone call because he was mildly annoyed. You want to man the laser, be my guest. Vader was directly looking at him and already pissed. Snoke got shanked because he was looking at the person standing beside the guy that popped him.
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Robot Style posted:They couldn't disguise themselves because Abrams and Terrio had already decided they wanted Rey & Kylo to have a Force Skype duel during that part of the movie, and all the concept art for the fight had her in her default outfit rather than a Stormtrooper disguise. Terrio admitted that a lot of stuff in the movie is just from he and Abrams coming up with a list of cool images to see in a Star War and then contriving reasons for those things to happen - and it was probably just easier to not have them change clothes at all than to ruin the image by making Daisy Ridley fight in clunky Stormtrooper armor or trying to write some excuse to have her change out of the armor partway through the mission. Rey just flexes and the armor shatters off her like when The Rock removed his cast in Fast and Furious.
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I mean, they did want to try and sell the possibility of Rey going dark, and having all the white armor shatter off her, leaving her in the black undersuit could be a pretty cool visual metaphor.
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NGL, writing down a bunch of cool scenes you want to happen and then writing a story to tie them all together isn't the worst way to write A Star Wars Story.
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mllaneza posted:NGL, writing down a bunch of cool scenes you want to happen and then writing a story to tie them all together isn't the worst way to write A Star Wars Story. There's a lot about the premise of the sequel trilogy that doesn't sound terrible on paper. Like the multiple directors thing sounds like it could be interesting and then oh no.
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mllaneza posted:NGL, writing down a bunch of cool scenes you want to happen and then writing a story to tie them all together isn't the worst way to write A Star Wars Story. That's kind of how Lucas did the latter two prequels. He had the art department working on stuff really early on and would just ask them to illustrate different concepts he was thinking about, then put the best ones in the script.
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mllaneza posted:NGL, writing down a bunch of cool scenes you want to happen and then writing a story to tie them all together isn't the worst way to write A Star Wars Story. You can write a powerful scene and work backwards from there, filling out your world, plot and characters based on how what course of events would result in that scene happening. The problem is that that isn't really what JJ is doing. JJ is creating awesome visuals - 'Trailer Moments'. And he does a bunch of these each movie; if they are hard to reconcile, too bad. He doesn't appear to give too much thought to plot or characters. That's how you end up with the weird contradictory stuff like quantum chewie and zori bliss making it to Exegol. Everything is subordinate to the *current* scene rather than subordinate to the narrative.
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Yeah, and as a result those set pieces are all built on foundations of sand and keep actively undermining each other. No one's willing or allowed to actually sit down and try to map out how it all fits together.
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