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I bought the 30k Salamander one off of ebay. Edit: what a lovely snipe
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 04:19 |
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I dont know much bout Emperors Children What special Units would they have other than Noise Marines?
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 05:23 |
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Hihohe posted:I dont know much bout Emperors Children their 40K gimmicks to date are pretty thin. noise marine weapons on everyone and everything, including characters, dreadnoughts, and tanks. a power bottom masochist who eats sadists' souls and steals their bodies. literally ghost rider. fabius bile, who's now more of a chaos undivided guy. their 30K gimmicks are even weaker. swordsmen but fancy. terminators with fancy spears. noise marines again.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 05:32 |
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Yeah, fancy swordsboys, noise marines and other sonic weapons, weirdo mutants and augmentations. Can't be that much worse than World Eaters got
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 05:33 |
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I like EC in 30k because there's nothing that special about them, but they want to be seen as special. It's just the narcissist/perfectionist team. Their costumes are extremely awesome and that's enough for me. I guess their other traits are speed and finesse which is absolutely fine in the pantheon of "like to break wall" and "like to build wall" teams. In 40k I reckon they could retain the focus on sonic weapons but extend it out to give them rules for those big saucer eyes to see all the colours and enhanced senses for pain or whatever. Bring in some of that Hedonites action and make them a travelling circus type deal with a mixed army of wild cultists, daemonettes and marines since they don't tend to be very organised and just follow the party.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 05:47 |
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30k EC also got the first "late-war" list, which includes all the above plus mechanics for getting Stupified, which is basically +1S, a FNP, and some morale stuff. It's basically when the drugs kick in. I'm still trying to figure out how it works with the main book though, since you lose access to a ton of other stuff. S6 shred chain bayonets seems like a hilarious thing to explore though, so I'll probably try these maniacs soon. E: they're pretty great in 30k in that all their unique stuff is flavorful and good.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 05:53 |
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Very fast, high damage and mostly can't take a punch sounds very EC in 40k. Which makes them sound like Eldar, welp
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 06:11 |
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moths posted:30k EC also got the first "late-war" list, which includes all the above plus mechanics for getting Stupified, which is basically +1S, a FNP, and some morale stuff. It's basically when the drugs kick in. it's kinda dumb that they got the first list for being actual chaos marines before word bearers, though, but 30K is just haphazard like that. pretty sure we still don't have rules for blackshields, too. Eej posted:Very fast, high damage and mostly can't take a punch sounds very EC in 40k. it's also pretty much what CSM does right now. i am not eager to have GW make another chaos marine army when TS, WE, and DG could really benefit from more stuff. ideally not more one-off characters, in the case of TS and DG, and not more elite melee infantry in the case of WE. Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Dec 18, 2023 |
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Eej posted:Very fast, high damage and mostly can't take a punch sounds very EC in 40k. I mean they do love the hell out of the god the Eldar created.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 06:25 |
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Oh my God, are they all just fanboys that want to LARP as elves!? I always thought about them as punk-rock marines. Like sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll. But maybe that's strong enough theme in today's age. Lostconfused fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Dec 18, 2023 |
# ? Dec 18, 2023 11:37 |
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/12/18/warhammer-amazon-contracts-signed-the-news-every-warhammer-fan-has-been-waiting-for/ Can't wait for the show announcement in three years time, the first trailer three years after that and then watching the show a year later.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 12:12 |
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/12/18/warhammer-amazon-contracts-signed-the-news-every-warhammer-fan-has-been-waiting-for/ I couldn't give less of a poo poo about this.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 12:17 |
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I wonder who they're going to cast as Henry Cavill.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 12:35 |
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Eediot Jedi posted:I wonder who they're going to cast as Henry Cavill. By the time it gets made Cavill will be old enough to play Yarik without makeup.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 15:35 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:Yeah, fancy swordsboys, noise marines and other sonic weapons, weirdo mutants and augmentations. Can't be that much worse than World Eaters got I’m still holding out for world eaters havinf a better range once the new codex drops. I wanted to make my second army based around Angry Ron and his pissed off kids, but then the entire range was four models and I mostly am into it to paint a variety of cool guys, so that fell apart.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 17:07 |
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I would have expected some new named Epic Heroes so far this edition; Admech definitely need like a purist foil to Cawl's radicalism, and some SM successor chapter heroes would have been nice.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 17:18 |
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Custodes could do with new models (not characters please), but mostly because the current ones are a bit too stunty. Realistically, I expect some of the FW resins to be converted into plastic, which is also good enough. I don't think Custodes actually need more units, rules-wise. They could just tweak the rules so they are all viable.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 17:46 |
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Cease to Hope posted:it's also pretty much what CSM does right now. i am not eager to have GW make another chaos marine army when TS, WE, and DG could really benefit from more stuff. ideally not more one-off characters, in the case of TS and DG, and not more elite melee infantry in the case of WE. Please, for the love of god, no more TS characters. Give me something else that gives Cabal points so I don't feel so bad about taking non-marine things.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 18:12 |
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I could see WE getting a Butcher-Surgeon character, and maybe even the lore accurate long range troops Teeth of Khorne. Everyone wants Red Butcher terminators but I don't see that happening when Eightbound kind of already fill that role. Thousand Sons could use a vehicle or demon engine or something. My CSM wishlist is a detachment that expands on traitor guard and gives access to some IG tanks for some Iron Warriorsy goodness.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 18:18 |
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Omg could GW release at least a single Space Marine kit with a shotgun being held with one hand? Just one hand on the grip and without the other on the pump. Just once. Right or left handed, I don't care.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 20:18 |
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Eej posted:Very fast, high damage and mostly can't take a punch sounds very EC in 40k. With the whole perfectionism thing, I’d always imagined giving them a set of units that are total specialists; best in class at a specific thing, but utterly useless at everything else.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 20:19 |
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Super Waffle posted:I could see WE getting a Butcher-Surgeon character, and maybe even the lore accurate long range troops Teeth of Khorne. Everyone wants Red Butcher terminators but I don't see that happening when Eightbound kind of already fill that role. Thousand Sons could use a vehicle or demon engine or something. My CSM wishlist is a detachment that expands on traitor guard and gives access to some IG tanks for some Iron Warriorsy goodness. Every legion needs cool terminators though. Let em take a wider variety of stuff than the Eightbound and that would be good enough to differentiate them. Super Waffle posted:I would have expected some new named Epic Heroes so far this edition; Admech definitely need like a purist foil to Cawl's radicalism, and some SM successor chapter heroes would have been nice. I'm surprised we have seen more Supreme Commander type units. After The Silent King came out I had assumed we would be seeing big faction leader models on a semi-regular basis but they've been rare so far.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 20:25 |
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I’d be nice to have a better version of the goofy Enhanced Marines for the EC. You could probably just use Primaris.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 20:28 |
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AndyElusive posted:Omg could GW release at least a single Space Marine kit with a shotgun being held with one hand? Just one hand on the grip and without the other on the pump. Just once. Right or left handed, I don't care. Might be a pain to track down from bitz sites (and not be in a useful pose for you) now but the old Scout Bike set has a one handed shotgun -
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 20:36 |
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So close.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 20:38 |
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A grip of noise varients for existing stuff is the easy win (new noise marine sculpts, bring back the noise dreads or at least make noise helbrutes, etc.), corrupted Palatine Blades melee focused Legionaries or Chosen, Phoenix Guard terminator sculpts, Eidolon character model (probably happening), a new Lucius (probably happening), and whatever else the people paid to think of units can come up with. This gives EC about as much new stuff as World Eaters got Edit: And maybe don't remove as many core CSM units this time like you did from WE, and give them back to those guys as well Nazzadan fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 18, 2023 |
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CottonWolf posted:With the whole perfectionism thing, I’d always imagined giving them a set of units that are total specialists; best in class at a specific thing, but utterly useless at everything else. That just makes them even more like Chaos Eldar!! Improbable Lobster posted:Every legion needs cool terminators though. Let em take a wider variety of stuff than the Eightbound and that would be good enough to differentiate them. Honestly I don't think WE need a heavy melee brawler unit. I think they would rather have bikes, an actual Havoc squad, Raptors, etc. I know Red Butchers are a thing and would sell a lot but I don't think they meaningfully expand their roster in a unique way.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 20:48 |
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Eej posted:That just makes them even more like Chaos Eldar!! For Emperor's Children I hope that their inevitable Sonic Dreadnought is also a way for them to revisit the Helbrute via a new model and an add-on sprue since the sculpt is kind of showing its age. Maybe they could also do the Teeth of Khorne (with Plasma Cannons) and Sunkillers (probably with Volkite and Multi-meltas) as add-ons for the Havocs kit. Basically just make more add-on sprues for things like they've done with the Legionaries Kill Team squad and the upcoming Night Lords Kill Team because that seems to be working very well for them.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 21:24 |
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what’s been going on in this game the past six months
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 21:41 |
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Nazzadan posted:A grip of noise varients for existing stuff is the easy win (new noise marine sculpts, bring back the noise dreads or at least make noise helbrutes, etc.), corrupted Palatine Blades melee focused Legionaries or Chosen, Phoenix Guard terminator sculpts, Eidolon character model (probably happening), a new Lucius (probably happening), and whatever else the people paid to think of units can come up with. This gives EC about as much new stuff as World Eaters got D O O M R I D E R
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 21:44 |
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John Romero posted:what’s been going on in this game the past six months they made a new edition, reset everyone's rules, and it's honestly been really good (except for balance for the first few weeks)
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:07 |
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With Custodes going out on Secret Service missions, would they be one of those situations where like they might clash with Guardsmen because nobody talks to each other, and then the Guardsmen (win or lose the battle) all get executed afterwards for knowing about / fighting the Emperor's most special boys?
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:08 |
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my under cover secret police force nade of gigantic hulking super dudes, who are bigger than space marines
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:13 |
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Like all things in 40k, I'm sure the punishment for even thinking about the Custodes is death.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:17 |
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I just wanted to point out that the new scouts have boltguns and not bolt rifles, which I think is a first for a post-primaris SM model
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:22 |
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Nazzadan posted:A grip of noise varients for existing stuff is the easy win (new noise marine sculpts, bring back the noise dreads or at least make noise helbrutes, etc.), corrupted Palatine Blades melee focused Legionaries or Chosen, Phoenix Guard terminator sculpts, Eidolon character model (probably happening), a new Lucius (probably happening), and whatever else the people paid to think of units can come up with. This gives EC about as much new stuff as World Eaters got Geisladisk posted:they made a new edition, reset everyone's rules, and it's honestly been really good (except for balance for the first few weeks) Plague Marines only being available as 5 or 10 man units was really funny, as far as early gently caress ups go.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:28 |
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SuperKlaus posted:With Custodes going out on Secret Service missions, would they be one of those situations where like they might clash with Guardsmen because nobody talks to each other, and then the Guardsmen (win or lose the battle) all get executed afterwards for knowing about / fighting the Emperor's most special boys? Probably; theres a story about a Custodes ship returning to Terra, making a beeline for the palace, and being challenged at every increasingly secure checkpoint. The security codes given were so astronomically high that every security officer that authorized them was turned into a servitor after the ship landed.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:30 |
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Super Waffle posted:Probably; theres a story about a Custodes ship returning to Terra, making a beeline for the palace, and being challenged at every increasingly secure checkpoint. The security codes given were so astronomically high that every security officer that authorized them was turned into a servitor after the ship landed. They've got Rogal Dorn's long lost jockstrap on board.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:34 |
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roubute you have to stop. you smoke too tough, your swag too different, your bitch is too bad. chaos will corrupt you
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:36 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 12:31 |
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I always thought that the 40K universe was supposed to be big and messy enough that anyone can end up fighting anyone for any reason. And a lot of factions have baked in reasons for it. Like Chaos will fight anyone because it's chaos, Eldar for their mysterious farseer reasons, anyone in the Empire just shouts heresy and starts blasting, and so on.
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# ? Dec 18, 2023 22:36 |