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Faracapes only availability for years was DVD sets of not that many episodes that were like $100, it's not a surprise it generally is not cared about
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Farscape's a real treasure, had great fun going through it a few years back. As for the first season, I thought Crais was kinda bland, didn't really rate him at the time. Certainly early Scorpius blows him out of the water. But in later seasons when he sticks around and bonds with Talyn, he has quite a neat overall arc.
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I have been slow dripping Farscape over the past few months, in S3 now, it's an incredible show. Full agree with the above post about Crais. Watched the episode of Disco S3 today that seems to be the soft pilot for the Starfleet Academy show, it was one of the better ones. Adira finally got some time onscreen outside of the romance arc, Book and Culber bonding was nice, oh and then there's the stupid main plot where Michael once again saves the day by proposing a committee, that she alone is uniquely qualified to serve on to mediate the deal. Lmfao come oooonnn. So I'm onboard for an Academy show with Tilly and could care les about the main plot. It bothers me tremendously how stagnant the Federation of 1000 years in the future is. They could have set the show 200 or 500 or any time at all in the future and it wouldn't matter. Nothing has changed beyond some better UX and transporter tech. It's just uninspired.
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Dec 19, 2023 01:43
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my bony fealty posted:better UX Highly arguable.
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my bony fealty posted:It bothers me tremendously how stagnant the Federation of 1000 years in the future is. They could have set the show 200 or 500 or any time at all in the future and it wouldn't matter. Nothing has changed beyond some better UX and transporter tech. It's just uninspired. I definitely agree, but I feel like this might be a matter of practicality in the worldbuilding. Star Trek is already supposed to be the shining future, with all the cool tech that we dream of having. The 24th century already has answers to every real-world problem the writers could think of, so where do you go from there? Go too far, and you risk building a setting that's too alien to be readily understandable. I think that the biggest mistake is putting it in an entirely different millennium, just because seeing a 3 in front of the year instead of a 2 feels so different. Setting something in the 3100s makes it sound like it should be a hyper-futuristic transhuman utopia where everyone's a shapeshifting immortal made out of programmable matter, while the 2900s still feels like it could be tricorders and transporters, but really tiny and convenient.
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Kesper North posted:Can we just have more Farscape? I miss Ben Browder acting in things. He was the best actor in the loving awful Bigfoot movie Hoax.
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8one6 posted:He was the best actor in the loving awful Bigfoot movie Hoax. He's been the best actor in so many terrible things! A lot of wasted talent there imo. But we'll always have Farscape, at least until our media overlords can run DRM on our forebrains.
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Dec 19, 2023 07:30
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The Finn posted:Hoping very much for this again The next one should be part of a Lower Decks season
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Future Federation just being the 24th century with smaller transporters and smoother ships feels uninspired, but it makes sense in universe. There seems to be a real limit to how far pure technological advancement can go, in previous series even the groups that have been spacefaring civilisations for thousands of years tend to just have faster ships or bigger space stations or transporters with better ranges. The real jump comes when they get sick of being in a rut and all ascend or some poo poo like that.
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The programmable matter stuff is a pretty big leap. .I guess technically that is basically just replicators but better, but the applications like Book's morphing ship were cool
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Dec 19, 2023 13:57
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Most of the applications of programmable matter is just stuff that they did with holograms anyway though. Was book's morphing ship even programmable matter stuff? It just came apart into segments.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:The programmable matter stuff is a pretty big leap. Books morphing ship was rubbish. Why did it even have that feature? What advantage did it actually give it in practical terms? Did we ever see what happens to the cockpit when it morphs? I don't think we did.
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It didn't even morph it just flew apart and then megazorded back into itself
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Farscape is a pretty interesting funhouse mirror version of Trek. It's the exact opposite in that conflict between the crew is the heart of the show, to the point that when the characters do some growth and deal with their bullshit the writers throw some massive curveballs to shake everything up. But when the crew is in a space crisis they usually pull together and have the same sort of 'what the gently caress? -> planning session -> do the thing' approach of say TNG. Sometimes D'argo gets mad and starts killing people but hey whattya gonna do.Senor Tron posted:Future Federation just being the 24th century with smaller transporters and smoother ships feels uninspired, but it makes sense in universe. The Voth are the standard bearers here. Millions of years in space and mostly using Bigger Ships. The Koala does not favor them. It's really for the best, you can't tell much of a story if your tech is so advanced that you might as well be Q; just wave your hand and the problem vanishes.
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Senor Tron posted:Future Federation just being the 24th century with smaller transporters and smoother ships feels uninspired, but it makes sense in universe. Yeah, and 99% of the ancient stations and ships are always powerful but not that much more powerful than what Federation operates, and something that capable crew reverse engineers in matter of hours. We of course know that the writers cannot go too over the top before science turns into magic, but canon-wise there seems to be a stage where everyone gets more or less stuck.
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maybeadracula posted:It didn't even morph it just flew apart and then megazorded back into itself It felt like they wrote it, expecting to come up with something during Post, then didn't, so yeah they just made it do the above. It should have morphed into a mech, piloted by Grudge.
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Grudge should have transformed into the ship itself.
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So I remember quite a few pages back people were wondering what "TNG" would be in the LD universe. Well, there's now a canon answer from the newly-published Cerritos handbook: "Those Newer Guys." And ENT is "Earth's Newbie Travelers."
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BIG HEADLINE posted:So I remember quite a few pages back people were wondering what "TNG" would be in the LD universe. It wouldn't surprise me if TNG inside Trek itself literally just stands for The Next Generation.
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One hundred years for one generation? Seems very... SPACED out lol
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nine-gear crow posted:It wouldn't surprise me if TNG inside Trek itself literally just stands for The Next Generation. That really only makes sense if your starting point is TOS
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maybeadracula posted:That really only makes sense if your starting point is TOS The dorks in the Lower Decks writers room would find a way to make it work somehow.
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Dec 19, 2023 23:33
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So when does the second season of Prodigy come out?
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maybeadracula posted:That really only makes sense if your starting point is TOS Not even there, really, since there's at least one generation skipped between those eras. (The crew of the -C would be the next generation from the TOS position.)
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wokow6 posted:So when does the second season of Prodigy come out? Early next year, still no firm date.
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TNG? Oh, you mean the Troi 'n Geordi era.
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https://x.com/variety/status/1737249153023885767?s=46&t=GxZoSKgPzb_-zyUnvLFKvg
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Yeah I bet it was a hard R
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I caught so much poo poo from these threads at the time for saying how much I did not want this movie to happen at all and everything we’ve heard about it since has felt like absolute vindication. What a terrible idea for a Star Trek script.
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CPColin posted:Yeah I bet it was a hard R "I wonder why when we play Twain on the Holodeck that there's one word in particular that the Universal Translator doesn't and/or won't translate. They sure used it a lot back then, whatever it was." (Another fun fact from the Cerritos Handbook: apparently Caitian curse words are so profane that the Universal Translator doesn't bother parsing them, everyone just hears (bleep). I suppose that's another way of saying we're never going to get uncensored media.)
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Yeah that's all real fukkin dumb but it's dumb to begin with to start with the premise of we're going to make an r-rated movie instead of having an actual story worth telling
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I really want to read that drat script
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On the one hand that sounds extremely poo poo for a star trek film but otoh I have liked pretty much everything Tarantino has done and I would love to see how stupid it would get.
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Thranguy posted:Not even there, really, since there's at least one generation skipped between those eras. (The crew of the -C would be the next generation from the TOS position.) Clearly, TNG stands for The Next Generation following the crew of the Enterprise-C, who are venerated as exemplars of Starfleet values. TNG had big shoes to fill.
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Professor Beetus posted:On the one hand that sounds extremely poo poo for a star trek film but otoh I have liked pretty much everything Tarantino has done and I would love to see how stupid it would get. Yeah, Tarantino should just make a loving sci-fi movie at this point. Dude's already made a western, what's one more schlock genre before he retires?
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Thranguy posted:Not even there, really, since there's at least one generation skipped between those eras. (The crew of the -C would be the next generation from the TOS position.) They're counting in Vulcan generations, maybe? Wingnut Ninja posted:TNG? Oh, you mean the Troi 'n Geordi era. Scrap that, this is exactly how LDS would do it
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Thank gently caress we were spared this fate.
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Professor Beetus posted:On the one hand that sounds extremely poo poo for a star trek film but otoh I have liked pretty much everything Tarantino has done and I would love to see how stupid it would get. I mean that's the thing, Tarantino is a talented enough writer/director he can actually get a lot of his idiot ideas to work really well. It may not of been the a good Trek movie but I can almost guarantee it would of been an entertaining movie. At the very least it would of been fascinating to see. If another director tries to do his script though it would undoubted suck to an incredible degree.
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I bounced hard off Hateful Eight and OUATIH, especially the latter, so that combined with Tarantino’s style and general sensibilities not meshing at all with Trek just made his potential movie seem like a disaster waiting to happen.
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