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Smith sucks rear end but “backing Ridder” feels relatively low on the list of reasons to bury him. Why isn’t the GM catching heat for this? Or does he have roster control? You can fairly criticize Smith for the Falcons looking like poo poo in every phase of the game. A terrible offensive scheme. And constantly giving touches to idiots like Jonnu Smith and Mack Hollins and Tyler Allgeier over guys anybody with eyes can see are insanely talented when they get opportunities. But like what is he supposed to do at QB when he’s got the choice of Mariota, Ridder, and Heinecke lol, none of them was ever going to work out
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Febreeze posted:Sirianni has taken the Eagles to the playoffs 3 years in a row, a super bowl last year, you are a lunatic if you think he's gone even if the rest of the season goes badly keep in mind that there were people in this thread who said Shanahan's seat should be hot after the niners started 3-4 last year. this thread hungers for coach blood, reason doesn't enter into it
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Docjowles posted:Smith sucks rear end but “backing Ridder” feels relatively low on the list of reasons to bury him. Why isn’t the GM catching heat for this? Or does he have roster control? Smith needs to go. The FO is spending incredible resources on blue chip players that should make the team better and he is just straight up unable or unwilling to develop an offense that takes advantage of their talent. A team can't be successful with that kind of a schism between the FO and HC.
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Dec 19, 2023 17:00
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Also Ridder was only a 3rd-round pick, you're not married to him. The GM has plenty of leeway to find another guy if the mid-round rando didn't work out.
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Dec 19, 2023 17:03
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Sirianni is a nobody who was hired to be a yes man and just guide the stacked roster to wins. Was carried by coordinators up until this year when they left and now the emperor is fully clothed.
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Dec 19, 2023 17:16
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Dropping a Penix or Daniels or whatever decent rookie qb into the Falcons seems like they’d immediately be substantially better. Ridder really holds the team back.
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Dec 19, 2023 17:23
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Ridder’s no look red zone pick into triple coverage was really something to behold
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Dec 19, 2023 17:25
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It's loving incredible that the Jets lost to the Ridder Falcons
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Dec 19, 2023 17:39
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mcmagic posted:It's loving incredible that the Jets lost to the Ridder Falcons Is it? Why does it surprise you that your awful team with a bad coaching staff and garbage QBs lose?
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Dec 19, 2023 17:40
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Is it? Why does it surprise you that your awful team with a bad coaching staff and garbage QBs lose? Because they are supposed to have an elite defense
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Dec 19, 2023 17:42
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https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1737140981479477584?t=nNn8SFYAgYtVgNTHi0L79A&s=19The Athletic posted:Year after year, the Steelers have been among the league’s highest spenders on defense, produced record-setting sack numbers and relied on timely turnovers to carry a failing offense. But just like in 2019, the questions at QB remain unanswered, and the offense further devolves into an anchor holding the team back. I don't think he's gone this year even if they lose our but the fact Tomlin is getting these articles doesn't bode well.
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the jets defense is as good as they are demoralized (very)
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mcmagic posted:Because they are supposed to have an elite defense It's 2023, you can't win games with just defense if your offense is an abortion.
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Benne posted:lmao he's not even close to warm. Y'all are more reactionary than Steelers fans. I suspect the ownership group will demand that he clean house of his staff, like they did to Cowher twice in his tenure.
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A fun game Every NFC South win outside of the NFC South this year Buccaneers: @Vikings, Bears, Titans, @Packers Falcons: Packers, Texans, @Jets Saints: Titans, @Patriots, @Colts, Bears, Giants Panthers: Texans Packers, Texans, Titans, Bears, you've all lost twice to NFC South teams, be embarrassed.
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mcmagic posted:Because they are supposed to have an elite defense they lost 13-8 lmfao
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D-LINK posted:I suspect the ownership group will demand that he clean house of his staff, like they did to Cowher twice in his tenure. So many teams would be better off if they could operate like the Steelers and Ravens and had better institutional control, such that the HC didn't slowly usurp power over the entire organization. The Patriots would be a lot better off if they could tell Bill that he needs to hire actual coaches and not just his children and former players and doesn't get to control the roster. You're starting to see the same problem in KC with Reid. Same stuff that led to his departure in Philly.
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I feel like HCs and GMs should have a ten year term limit with the same team. Doesn't matter how great, keep it moving.
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Near the end of his Philly tenure Reid was doing stupid poo poo like making his oline coach the DC and no one could tell him otherwise. Sound familiar?
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Woozie66 posted:I feel like HCs and GMs should have a ten year term limit with the same team. Doesn't matter how great, keep it moving. CC: Brian Cashman
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Near the end of his Philly tenure Reid was doing stupid poo poo like making his oline coach the DC and no one could tell him otherwise. Sound familiar? lol I forgot about that
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Near the end of his Philly tenure Reid was doing stupid poo poo like making his oline coach the DC and no one could tell him otherwise. Sound familiar? I have been a known Tomlin hater and I have no idea if his next stop would be great or a disaster lol
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Smith needs to go. The FO is spending incredible resources on blue chip players that should make the team better and he is just straight up unable or unwilling to develop an offense that takes advantage of their talent. A team can't be successful with that kind of a schism between the FO and HC. Just to be clear I totally agree with this. But the thrust of that Athletic article seemed to be that Blank is mostly mad at him for drafting Ridder which was confusing because he is not the GM??? Why isn’t he on the hot seat for the myriad other ways in which he’s an awful coach Or maybe just bad reporting, the Athletic isn’t exactly at the top of their game these days
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mcmagic posted:Because they are supposed to have an elite defense The Jets scored 8 points and gave up less than 200 yards of offense. the defence wasn't the problem!!!
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:The Jets scored 8 points and gave up less than 200 yards of offense. the defence wasn't the problem!!! The Panthers' D was better against the Falcons!
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mcmagic posted:The Panthers' D was better against the Falcons! Should probably also mention it was a muddy, windy poo poo hole game
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You seriously cannot blame the defence for losing a game where the offense scores 6 total points
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The transitive property of the NFL states that Zach Wilson singlehandedly beat the Eagles and Bills and... This is dumb.
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Diva Cupcake posted:The transitive property of the NFL states that Zach Wilson singlehandedly beat the Eagles and Bills and... The real tragedy is that they won that Giant game.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:You seriously cannot blame the defence for losing a game where the offense scores 6 total points Turns out I can because I am a movie stereotype ethnic parent and anything less than perfection is failure.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:You seriously cannot blame the defence for losing a game where the offense scores 6 total points The point was more than the Jets are like the worst team in the NFL if they can't beat the Ridder Falcons no matter how the game went.
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triple sulk posted:lol I forgot about that Teams just let coaches get more and more power as they grow successful until the HC screws up the secret sauce. Reid, just this year, hired his remaining son to the coaching staff. Someone in KC should be intervening there. The history of Reid's children working for him is... bad, very bad.
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mcmagic posted:The point was more than the Jets are like the worst team in the NFL if they can't beat the Ridder Falcons no matter how the game went. Packers lost to them too
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Febreeze posted:Sirianni has taken the Eagles to the playoffs 3 years in a row, a super bowl last year, you are a lunatic if you think he's gone even if the rest of the season goes badly Everybody's now seeing on full display what we've been bellyaching about since September, a team that's simply not good enough. There's too much talent on the offense to be this anemic, so maybe they change OC this offseason, but then what? If things continue to stagnate, how many coordinators can Nick run through before he gets got? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they will fix all this by the end of the year or next season, but next season is going to be the test here.
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Phobeste posted:That's signalling they're interested in belichick and would give him full roster control imo Why not. Josh McDaniels is already available and Matt Patricia will be soon, you can get the whole gang back together. I'm so so so sorry Herbie
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Nervous posted:Why not. Josh McDaniels is already available and Matt Patricia will be soon, you can get the whole gang back together. I could not possibly care less if Bill brought McDaniels with him.
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I mean McDaniels is a really good OC with a long, long career of building an offense around great QB's. And he'll never ever get poached as a HC candidate ever again. He's like the perfect OC for Herbert. He could be there 15 years. If you view hiring a defensive coach's biggest weakness that any good OC will get snatched from them after a year or two... McDaniels is your solution. He's an unhirable prick to any Head job, he's peaked. Give him a good QB and let him go to town
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Kalli posted:I mean McDaniels is a really good OC with a long, long career of building an offense around great QB's.
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well yeah but belichick would be there so you'd get good version
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Wasnt McDaniels bad in St Louis after his first HC tenure? And he only looked good again when he went back to NE? My memory is fuzzy so I could be mis-remembering. That Rams team was uh. Yeah.
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