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Nuns with Guns)
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Endorph posted:that first credits theme still owns netflix doesnt have the op because of licensing issues presumably, but the ed does own.
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Dec 19, 2023 20:44
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Endorph posted:hilariously it also got an audio version with naruto and sasukes actual voice actors. lmao badass
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Dec 19, 2023 20:44
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I don't understand how you can believe you'd get away with ripping off one of the biggest properties in the world. At least rename them to Fredo and Gandolfini.
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Dec 19, 2023 20:47
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Endorph posted:hilariously it also got an audio version with naruto and sasukes actual voice actors.  16-bit Butt-Head posted:stalin hit by a truck and wakes up in anime world where only a true communist can save them from the evil imperial capitalist pigs I mean this is basically the plot to Overlord, pointless ethnic cleansing and all. Feels Villeneuve posted:netflix doesnt have the op because of licensing issues presumably, but the ed does own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI_el2XhI8s
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Dec 19, 2023 20:49
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Re the Jocat situation I lost track of it but someone expressed incredulity that Jocat could actually have been bullied off the internet for being too straight without it making headline news because it affirms the beliefs of horrible bigots who think the straights are being oppressed. I’d like to give the answer to that quandary: Jocat is gender non-conforming and wears bows and scarves and skirts and does not hate trans people, so those horrible bigots like that this is happening to him and think he deserves it. It doesn’t matter that it technically goes against what they claim to believe. It can sometimes be easy to get into the mindset that being queer is like being part of a cool club. In many ways, it is, because lots of very brave people have worked super hard to make it that way, and it rules!!! However, it is also just a word for a type of person that lots of people super hate and want to kill. If we decide that people with a certain type of label don’t belong in the former (bi people, ace people, genderqueer people, or even gnc cishets!) that absolutely does not mean they stop being the latter. Endorph posted:hilariously it also got an audio version with naruto and sasukes actual voice actors. I can’t tell whether this is more or less ridiculous than that time some people somehow got Jaleel White to do voicework for their terrible Sonic fan film. On the one hand, this sounds much bigger, but on the other hand, it seems likely that the voice actors in this case did not know it was originally fan fiction.
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Dec 19, 2023 20:51
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Ariong posted:Re the Jocat situation I lost track of it but someone expressed incredulity that Jocat could actually have been bullied off the internet for being too straight without it making headline news because it affirms the beliefs of horrible bigots who think the straights are being oppressed. I’d like to give the answer to that quandary: Jocat is gender non-conforming and wears bows and scarves and skirts and does not hate trans people, so those horrible bigots like that this is happening to him and think he deserves it. It doesn’t matter that it technically goes against what they claim to believe. There's also that weird contingent of puriteen types wandering around Twitter who don't really seem to fall neatly into the left/right political dichotomy, but don't like when people are being too openly horny.
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Dec 19, 2023 21:04
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Arc Hammer posted:Hey you know who makes online content? Tom Green: Huh, as he ages, Tom Green is kinda starting to look like James Spader with a bad hangover.
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Dec 19, 2023 21:08
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KingKalamari posted:There's also that weird contingent of puriteen types wandering around Twitter who don't really seem to fall neatly into the left/right political dichotomy, but don't like when people are being too openly horny. theyre leftist on queer rights issues legally but insanely conservative on actual social performance
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Dec 19, 2023 21:23
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A group that genuinely doesn't care what you get up to so long as you do it behind closed doors
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Dec 19, 2023 21:31
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Nazzadan posted:She's since reactivated and gave a pretty "im pissed off about this" apology but yeah idk this whole thing tilts me because it was just a woman trying to make a joke which was taken completely seriously and at face value by its not intended audience and then you suddenly had the most uwu soft bean softy accounts telling her to kill herself over and over. The joke was at JoCat's expense even before the plagiarism/content theft angle factored (stupidly) in. It's a caae of lolcow-farming behavior and ZSC shouldn't have done it from first principles - none of which excuses the harassment she received in return, to be clear.
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Dec 19, 2023 21:38
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Reading JoCat's post again I think it's pretty clear the actual IRL harassment occured in one of the previous blowups over this video and this latest incident was just sorta a "i dont want to deal with this anymore" which does suck that he got chased off but it's bringing an insane amount of heat down on people that made fun of the video this last time around and blaming people like Claire for his family getting the questionable mail (which is like, not possible? There was a day or two between her tweet and his tweet mail literally wouldn't have arrived in time lol). I also have seen burner chud accounts mass tagging trans posters with hateful content blaming them for JoCat quitting which is pretty clearly not aligned with his beliefs so this probably just got hijacked by opportunists that wanted to be real lovely.DoctorWhat posted:The joke was at JoCat's expense even before the plagiarism/content theft angle factored (stupidly) in. It's a caae of lolcow-farming behavior and ZSC shouldn't have done it from first principles - none of which excuses the harassment she received in return, to be clear. I agree, she was making a mean joke and I also agree she shouldn't receive harassment over it. It's another conversation altogether if you should be able to make mean jokes like that about a content creator bigger than you and to me it brings up the concept of punching up Nazzadan fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Dec 19, 2023 |
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Dec 19, 2023 21:38
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Clerical Terrors posted:If you don't do it there's a chance the empty spaces you leave will be filled in by scandalmongers and whatever weird narratives they come up with. But more than that it's probably just the person wanting to vent. Why the gently caress would anyone care though? Let them speculate. Venting, sure, but it isn't any different than my irate boomer mom telling the underpaid clerk she's never going back to that store ever again like it's some kind of flex.
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Dec 19, 2023 21:38
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did someone say radically progressive on gender and social issues while also being against sex in all its forms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySrpKMlhG2c looping back to good history YT channels, this guy and Religion For Breakfast do pretty good coverage of old and new religious movements
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Dec 19, 2023 21:41
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DoctorWhat posted:The joke was at JoCat's expense even before the plagiarism/content theft angle factored (stupidly) in. It's a caae of lolcow-farming behavior and ZSC shouldn't have done it from first principles - none of which excuses the harassment she received in return, to be clear. its kinda a stretch to assume malice from that joke imo. with the plagiarism framing it reads to me more as "i'm in this picture and don't like it"
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Dec 19, 2023 21:48
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Nazzadan posted:I agree, she was making a mean joke and I also agree she shouldn't receive harassment over it. It's another conversation altogether if you should be able to make mean jokes like that about a content creator bigger than you and to me it brings up the concept of punching up "Punching up" is a flawed concept in comedy to begin with. It does not hold water as a moral standard when stochastic harassment and parasocial derangement factor in. When you make a public post at someone's expense you are saying "the moral value, catharsis, and entertainment my followers and I get out of this petty dig is more valuable than the subject's peace and dignity." Are there people in this world whose peace and dignity are valueless? Politicians, CEOs, etc? Yes. But that's a very small group. And devaluing extant human dignity requires an extremely strong moral or harm reduction case. Making a few mutuals and followers laugh isn't good enough. Catgirl Al Capone posted:its kinda a stretch to assume malice from that joke imo. with the plagiarism framing it reads to me more as "i'm in this picture and don't like it" Tragically, inhuman precision and care becomes your responsibility when you accrue that many followers on social media, because that's literally an inhuman position to be in. Our brains didn't evolve to cope with it.
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Dec 19, 2023 21:50
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ZSC didn't do anything wrong. It's fine for someone to tweet that they think a video is stupid, which she didn't even really say directly. It was an extremely mild joke.
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Dec 19, 2023 21:53
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This is a tangent but when this thread used to be 80% arguing about Lindsey Ellis it was a huge point of contention over her follower count and whether having more followers meant she was allowed to complain about anything.Endorph posted:twitter is so broken that if you have a bunch of followers i dont think you should quote tweet or post something and go 'i think this/the person who made it is bad' unless youre okay with sending insane people after that person. people can be forgiven for not thinking twitter is that bad and doing it anyway, but like, its pretty consistent as something that happens. it happens even if you dont have any followers mycot fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Dec 19, 2023 |
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Dec 19, 2023 21:54
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I agree! Unfortunately, an extremely mild joke told by a 40-meter-class kaiju is going to cause a tornado. Accumulating that much parasocial power changes your social position. It isn't fair but it's a fact.
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Dec 19, 2023 21:55
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Flying Zamboni posted:ZSC didn't do anything wrong. It's fine for someone to tweet that they think a video is stupid, which she didn't even really say directly. It was an extremely mild joke. Yeah it's kind of insane to think she should've assumed it'd "break containment". I once shot off a tweet before bed of a screenshot of a Vaush video youtube had recommended to me where I said he sucked assuming it'd get a dozen likes and woke up to 20k likes and my replies filled not only with his moron fans but also him (as he'd passive-aggressively QTed me).
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Dec 19, 2023 21:56
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twitter is so broken that if you have a bunch of followers i dont think you should quote tweet or post something and go 'i think this/the person who made it is bad' unless youre okay with sending insane people after that person. people can be forgiven for not thinking twitter is that bad and doing it anyway, but like, its pretty consistent as something that happens. it happens even if you dont have any followers
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Dec 19, 2023 21:57
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https://twitter.com/JoCat105/status/1737196752145399901 Lol okay so yes all the doxxing and mailing was from before this incident, surely the people that harassed Hesse feel silly right about now! Also that last bullet point seems way out of left field but apparently people have been bringing up past statements by him about the Wizard game as a reason to harass him so keep that in mind when you get to that doozy
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Dec 19, 2023 22:00
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DoctorWhat posted:"Punching up" is a flawed concept in comedy to begin with. It does not hold water as a moral standard when stochastic harassment and parasocial derangement factor in. lol, what is comedy supposed to be if you aren't able to make fun of people. The issue is more people having to have hot takes on everything on the toxic (even before Elon Musk) social platform Twitter, dog-piling someone because its allows cheap and easy jokes, and making even the most trivial topics a huge social issue where you are a Nazi if you have the wrong opinion.
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Dec 19, 2023 22:01
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i have like 1000 followers and i usually scrub off usernames when i want to make fun of a bad post lol. no idea what any of the 100k follower people who were like "im going to weigh in about this video being cringe" were thinking
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Dec 19, 2023 22:02
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it all comes back to that son of a bitch harry potter
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Dec 19, 2023 22:02
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Dongicus posted:hey guys check out this video i made Mori ftw
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Dec 19, 2023 22:03
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i think harry potter should be harassed out of twitter
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Dec 19, 2023 22:04
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DoctorWhat posted:"Punching up" is a flawed concept in comedy to begin with. It does not hold water as a moral standard when stochastic harassment and parasocial derangement factor in. as it turns out it is also a stupid concept when there are like 15 different axis of "up" and "down" you can look at things through, and it plays into one of the most fundamental beliefs of bullying and harassing behavior, which is that there is a moral justification for doing it
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Dec 19, 2023 22:04
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Catgirl Al Capone posted:i think harry potter should be harassed out of twitter Let's kick his rear end (actionable)
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Dec 19, 2023 22:04
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Anyways once again I feel like Hesse's joke wouldn't have taken off much at all if Jocat didn't for some reason decide to quote tweet it for his audience of children to misunderstand what the tweet was.
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Dec 19, 2023 22:05
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Saagonsa posted:Anyways once again I feel like Hesse's joke wouldn't have taken off much at all if Jocat didn't for some reason decide to quote tweet it for his audience of children to misunderstand what the tweet was.
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Dec 19, 2023 22:07
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fun hater posted:it all comes back to that son of a bitch harry potter
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Dec 19, 2023 22:08
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"punching up" also reminds me of those dumb rear end "you dont need to be offensive to be funny" tweets where the joke is like a picture of a hamburger with "hambor" written on it, so because i'm mad at those posts, that concept can die
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Dec 19, 2023 22:08
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punching up/down is a stupid concept. the reality is twitter is a bad platform for random dunks on people even if the dunks are light and funny. just keep it to your discord or smth.
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Dec 19, 2023 22:09
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Human beings were just not meant to have indistinct clouds of para-socially motivated, pseudonymous fans interpreting their every statement as actionable instructions. That's my hot take.
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Dec 19, 2023 22:09
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Well hang on hambor sounds kinda funny
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Dec 19, 2023 22:09
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Feels Villeneuve posted:"punching up" also reminds me of those dumb rear end "you dont need to be offensive to be funny" tweets where the joke is like a picture of a hamburger with "hambor" written on it, so because i'm mad at those posts, that concept can die cold pockets
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Dec 19, 2023 22:11
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https://twitter.com/KrisWolfheart/status/1736992450684584318
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Dec 19, 2023 22:12
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I’m here for hambot
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Dec 19, 2023 22:12
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Endorph posted:he was getting a lot of weird poo poo about the video for two years so i cant blame him for making a weird, off assumption. he shouldnt have done it but also hard to blame him. Yeah that's fair. Just an unfortunate situation all around.
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Dec 19, 2023 22:12
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fun hater posted:it all comes back to that son of a bitch harry potter Seriously. So sick of this motherfucker.  But I guess a wizard killed him, so whatever.
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Dec 19, 2023 22:12
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